From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 4 06:39:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id GAA17853 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id GAA06843 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:39:13 -0500 (EST) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit 6.0.192 upload failure Date: 27 Dec 1996 03:27:08 +1030 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 12 Message-ID: <59uap4$kno@gateway.dircsa.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!143.216.242.5!news.sa.gov.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!spasun.tpa.com.au!ns.saard.net!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6359 If an upload using C-Kermit 6.0.192 is failing partway through a session, what should I log to help identify the cause? The upload is via hardware a hardware handshaking null-modem cable from Unixware 1.1.2 with a Stallion EasyConnection serial card using hardware-only flow control via a hardware-handshaking null modem cable to a serial port on a machine running E-Soft's TBBS 2.3. BTW, sz worked fine across the same connection... -- Arthur Marsh, telephone +61-8-8370-2365, fax +61-8-8223-5082 arthur@dircsa.org.au .endofsig From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 4 06:46:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id GAA27637 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id GAA07212 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:46:53 -0500 (EST) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Can I use variable arrays in dos K 3.14? Date: 27 Dec 1996 03:20:13 +1030 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 14 Message-ID: <59uac5$kku@gateway.dircsa.org.au> References: <58s0ns$bq0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!143.216.242.5!news.sa.gov.au!duster.adelaide.on.net!spasun.tpa.com.au!ns.saard.net!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6360 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 8 is available at: : ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip : - Frank Beta 10 was there last time I downloaded, and it is a fine piece of work (-:. -- Arthur Marsh, telephone +61-8-8370-2365, fax +61-8-8223-5082 arthur@dircsa.org.au .endofsig From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 4 12:18:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA05669 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 12:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA24197 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 12:18:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit 6.0.192 upload failure Date: 4 Jan 1997 17:16:58 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5am3aa$ps2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <59uap4$kno@gateway.dircsa.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6361 In article <59uap4$kno@gateway.dircsa.org.au>, Arthur Marsh wrote: : If an upload using C-Kermit 6.0.192 is failing partway through a session, : what should I log to help identify the cause? : Does it always happen in the same place in the same file? : The upload is via hardware a : hardware handshaking null-modem cable from Unixware 1.1.2 with a Stallion : EasyConnection serial card using hardware-only flow control via a : hardware-handshaking null modem cable to a serial port on a machine running : E-Soft's TBBS 2.3. : Probably their version of Kermit is buggy. Most BBS Kermits are. : BTW, sz worked fine across the same connection... : Get a packet log from C-Kermit and send it in for analysis. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 5 20:01:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA24776 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id UAA12707 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:01:19 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!news.ferntree.com.au!newsadm@ferntree.com.au From: "steven. wu" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: help: kermit setting Date: 6 Jan 1997 00:49:02 GMT Organization: Ast Research Ltd Lines: 17 Message-ID: <01bbfb6b$5e161ac0$165ea4a5@WUD.ast.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.164.94.22 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6362 hi! i am using kemit3.1 and use it connect to a vax host in hongkong via a novell network in our offical. to establish the connection, i run a program named tes.com before the kermit, and in my kermit.ini file, there is a statement looked like this: set port tes hk i know the statement above tell kermit where is the host, is it? now, my problem is that i want to connect to another host, may be rs.internit.com. but, i don't know how to do. can anybody please help me? thanks. d._wu@ccmailsmtp.ast.com From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 6 00:57:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA06926 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id AAA25642 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:57:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in2.uu.net!192.207.105.50!prodigy.com!johnsmith From: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ! 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Autocancel spam type: ONESZEROS Original Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (ccbNpC) From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 6 13:29:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA14087 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA19022 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:29:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!in1.nntp.cais.net!wvnvms!bl220056 From: bl220056@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu (Joseph G. Woodrum) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: SCO ANSI in MS-Kermit? Message-ID: <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms> Date: 6 Jan 97 13:11:38 EST Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing Lines: 6 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6364 Are there any plans to add SCO ANSI emulation to MS-Kermit 3.15? Thanks, Joseph jwoodrum@bscvax.wvnet.edu From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 6 13:38:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA17691 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA19556 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:38:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 13 Date: 6 Jan 1997 18:37:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5argot$d4f$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: PPP Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6365 MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 13 fixes some bugs in -- and simplifies -- SET KEY syntax. And, in response to the many questions about how to use MS-DOS Kermit with PPP, and new section has been added to the MSK315.DOC file on this topic. MSK315.EXE and MSK315.DOC are in the MSK315.ZIP file at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Put it in your regular MS-DOS Kermit directory, unzip it, and run MSK315.EXE instead of KERMIT.EXE. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 6 18:56:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA01256 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA04725 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:56:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!netnews.cc.wwu.edu!NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU!evelyn From: evelyn@NESSIE.CC.WWU.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Installing Kermit 95 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:30:30 PDT Organization: Western Washington University Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: nessie.cc.wwu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6366 The READ.ME file for Kermit 95 Version 1.1.7 says, under Creating Shortcuts: . Copy C:\WINDOWS\DOSPRMPT.PIF to your Kermit 95 directory. I could find no such file. What should I look for? Thank you, Evelyn |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (360) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 7 13:32:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA03083 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA16293 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:31:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.tufts.edu!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!news.idx.com!news From: David Smeltzer Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.kermit Subject: kermit: "can't condition line for input" Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 12:03:15 -0600 Organization: IDX Corporation Lines: 9 Message-ID: <32D28FE3.7ECE@hawkeye.idx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: smeltzerd.idx.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6367 hi, i'm getting this message "can't condition line for input," AFTER my modem connects to the host system and establishes a good connection. after i get this message, the line is dropped. has anyone seen this message before, and is it something in KERMIT or a message from the host system??? any and all suggestions are appreciated!! thanks, dave. From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 7 13:37:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA04608 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA16599 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:37:39 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit: "can't condition line for input" Date: 7 Jan 1997 18:37:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5au55i$o4t$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32D28FE3.7ECE@hawkeye.idx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6368 In article <32D28FE3.7ECE@hawkeye.idx.com>, David Smeltzer wrote: : i'm getting this message "can't condition line for input," AFTER my : modem connects to the host system and establishes a good connection. : after i get this message, the line is dropped. has anyone seen this : message before, and is it something in KERMIT or a message from the : host system??? any and all suggestions are appreciated!! thanks, : Which Kermit program are you using, what version of it, on which kind of computer, running which operating system? From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 7 13:57:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA07497 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA17446 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:57:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: SCO ANSI in MS-Kermit? Message-ID: <1997Jan7.110722.91256@cc.usu.edu> Date: 7 Jan 97 11:07:22 MDT References: <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 14 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6369 In article <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms>, bl220056@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (Joseph G. Woodrum) writes: > Are there any plans to add SCO ANSI emulation to MS-Kermit 3.15? > > Thanks, > > Joseph > jwoodrum@bscvax.wvnet.edu --------- No. Why? Because SCO ANSI requires sending keyboard key make and break codes. The only way of getting those is to go below the BIOS and hook the keyboard itself. Alas, that has two consequences: unhooking may not be possible and it is no longer possible to deal with command keys, say for example ALT-x and any keyboard verb. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 7 13:57:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA07532 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA17450 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: help: kermit settingnext Message-ID: <1997Jan7.110949.91257@cc.usu.edu> Date: 7 Jan 97 11:09:49 MDT References: <01bbfb6b$5e161ac0$165ea4a5@WUD.ast.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6370 In article <01bbfb6b$5e161ac0$165ea4a5@WUD.ast.com>, "steven. wu" writes: > hi! > > i am using kemit3.1 and use it connect to a vax host in hongkong via a > novell network in our offical. to establish the connection, i run a program > named tes.com before the kermit, and in my kermit.ini file, there is a > statement looked like this: > set port tes hk > i know the statement above tell kermit where is the host, is it? > > now, my problem is that i want to connect to another host, may be > rs.internit.com. but, i don't know how to do. > > can anybody please help me? > > thanks. > d._wu@ccmailsmtp.ast.com ------------ TES is strictly a PC to VAX communications pathway. It has nothing to do with the Internet (which is what rs.internit.com refers to). MS-DOS Kermit has its own internal TCP/IP stack for that purpose, and it is described in both the release notes as well as in the primary reference book "Using MS-DOS Kermit" (see the HELP screen for details). The current release of MSK is 3.14, with 3.15 going through open beta. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 8 05:02:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id FAA03674 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id FAA29506 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:02:15 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!echelon!kees From: kees@echelon.nl (Kees Hendrikse) Subject: Re: SCO ANSI in MS-Kermit? Organization: Echelon Consultancy, Enschede, The Netherlands Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:27:42 GMT Message-ID: References: <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms> <1997Jan7.110722.91256@cc.usu.edu> Lines: 28 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6371 In <1997Jan7.110722.91256@cc.usu.edu> jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) writes: > In article <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms>, bl220056@wvnvms.wvnet.edu > (Joseph G. Woodrum) writes: > > Are there any plans to add SCO ANSI emulation to MS-Kermit 3.15? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joseph > > jwoodrum@bscvax.wvnet.edu > --------- > No. Why? Because SCO ANSI requires sending keyboard key make and > break codes. I don't think that's necessary. At least not for SCO apps that use termcap, terminfo or like terminal databases. The key-mappings for SCO ansi can be done in current Kermit versions with normal 'set key' statements. The problem is with the non-standard screenhandling. Now that Kermit has a BBS-ansi mode it's only a handfull of codes that need to be added or changed. (Needless to say, I too would love to see sco-ansi added to Kermits emulation list!) -- Kees Hendrikse | email: kees@echelon.nl | ECHELON consultancy and software development | phone: +31 (0)53 48 36 585 PO Box 545, 7500AM Enschede, The Netherlands | fax: +31 (0)53 43 37 415 From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 10:16:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA19487 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA29776 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:15:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de!infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de!usenet From: Arne Biastoch Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 dialer doesn't pop up Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:15:58 +0100 Organization: Institut fuer Meereskunde Lines: 27 Message-ID: <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plotin.ifm.uni-kiel.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6372 I have a problem concerning the Dialer of Kermit95. When I launch, it doesn't pop up. The task resides in the taskbar, but there is no chance to get a regular window (the 'restore' button is blinded out). The only way to get the dialer windows is to maximize it. Actually I am using the new version 1.1.9. But the problem turned up first a few weeks ago when I used a further version. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Arne ______________________________________________________________________________ Arne Biastoch Institut fuer Meereskunde /| Dept. Theoretical Oceanography /| / | Duesternbrooker Weg 20 / |/ | 24105 Kiel, Germany / | | / | | ~~~/ |___+~~~~ phone: 49-431-597 3884 ~~~/_____+~~~~~~~ fax : 49-431-565876 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email: abiastoch@ifm.uni-kiel.de ______________________________________________________________________________ From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 10:28:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA20771 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA00330 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:28:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 dialer doesn't pop up Date: 9 Jan 1997 15:28:25 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5b32qp$1uq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6373 In article <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de>, Arne Biastoch wrote: : I have a problem concerning the Dialer of Kermit95. : : When I launch, it doesn't pop up. The task resides in the taskbar, but : there is no chance to get a regular window (the 'restore' button is : blinded out). The only way to get the dialer windows is to maximize it. : : Actually I am using the new version 1.1.9. But the problem turned up : first a few weeks ago when I used a further version. : Maximize the dialer and then shut it down. When you restart, it will be placed in the middle of your screen. We have been unable to find the cause of the problem. We know that the dialer is recording at shutdown a position value which is far off the screen. How do you shutdown the dialer? Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 11:35:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA07502 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA07496 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:35:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!nntp.uio.no!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de!tubsibr!mevers.biblio.etc.tu-bs.de!m.evers From: m.evers@tu-bs.de (Matthias Evers) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Setting a new key sequence Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:56:25 +100 Organization: Unibibliothek Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: mevers.biblio.etc.tu-bs.de X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6374 Maybe, someone can help me, We have switched our system from OpenVMS to DEC Unix. We work via DOS-Kermit 3.14 pl2 on our Database, which is running on the DEC Unix machine. Since the dec unix has no DELETE key, i tried to put the sequence "cursor right" "backspace" on the DELETE key. I have the MS-Kermit handbook and easily can switch the function of the key via "set key ...", but am not able to put two sequences on one key. I want the \4435 key (Delete) to send \Krtarr and after that the \127, but found no way to get this to work. Is it possible and i have missing something, or is this not possible with DOS-Kermit? Thanks, Matthias Evers (M.Evers@tu-bs.de) From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 11:44:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA10221 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA08612 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:44:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pumpkin.pangea.ca!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!vbcnet-west!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@K95Xdialer.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 dialer doesn't pop up Date: 9 Jan 1997 16:17:11 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5b35m7$5gt@samba.rahul.net> References: <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6375 Arne Biastoch (abiastoch@ifm.uni-kiel.de) wrote: : I have a problem concerning the Dialer of Kermit95. : When I launch, it doesn't pop up. The task resides in the taskbar, but : there is no chance to get a regular window (the 'restore' button is : blinded out). The only way to get the dialer windows is to maximize it. I find that this happens if I use the taskbar to "Minimize All Windows", and then shutdown. Apparently K95 remembers "minimized" as it's last size, and wants to stay at that size. If I maximize it, then resize it, after the shutdown it works okay. I downloaded the "powertoys" from Microsoft, which includes a better desktop icon, which lives on the taskbar, so I never "Minimize All Windows" anymore, so the bug in K95 doesn't bother me. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/software/PowerToy.htm -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 12:24:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA21457 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA10653 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:24:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 dialer doesn't pop up Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:24:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5b39l0$de6$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> <5b35m7$5gt@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6376 In article <5b35m7$5gt@samba.rahul.net>, wrote: : Arne Biastoch (abiastoch@ifm.uni-kiel.de) wrote: : : I have a problem concerning the Dialer of Kermit95. : : : When I launch, it doesn't pop up. The task resides in the taskbar, but : : there is no chance to get a regular window (the 'restore' button is : : blinded out). The only way to get the dialer windows is to maximize it. : : I find that this happens if I use the taskbar to "Minimize All Windows", : and then shutdown. Apparently K95 remembers "minimized" as it's last : size, and wants to stay at that size. I have examined the dialusr.dat files from several users who have reported this problem with K95. What is happening is that K95DIAL is being given a location at a location which is far off the screen such as 3000,3000. The reason that the "Restore" option doesn't appear is because the window has been created but it has just been placed far off the screen. I will have to perform some testing with "Minimize All Windows" to see if that is the cause. Just minimizing K95DIAL and then shutting down does not appear to be the cause. : If I maximize it, then resize it, after the shutdown it works okay. Yes, this is a workaround. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 18:14:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA01058 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA27945 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:14:16 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!usenet From: Lawrence MacIntyre Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Sending a Break signal using Kermit Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 18:05:28 -0500 Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32D579B8.1CFB@nautique.epm.ornl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: nautique.epm.ornl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6377 Hi: I have a NEC Versa 6030X Laptop computer and am running C-Kermit 5A (189). I can't figure out how to send a break signal. I need it to talk to console ports of Cisco Routers. Can anyone help? -- Lawrence ~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lawrence MacIntyre Oak Ridge National Laboratory 423.574.8696 lpz@ornl.gov http://www.epm.ornl.gov/~lpz lpz@nautique.epm.ornl.gov From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 18:16:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA01604 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA28024 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:16:12 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Sending a Break signal using Kermit Date: 9 Jan 1997 23:16:11 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5b3u7r$5cm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32D579B8.1CFB@nautique.epm.ornl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6378 In article <32D579B8.1CFB@nautique.epm.ornl.gov>, Lawrence MacIntyre wrote: : I have a NEC Versa 6030X Laptop computer and am running C-Kermit 5A : (189). I can't figure out how to send a break signal. I need it to : talk to console ports of Cisco Routers. Can anyone help? : Like it says in the manual (do you have it?), type the escape character (which is Ctrl-\ by default) followed by the letter B. The current version of C-Kermit is 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 9 18:25:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA02621 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA28610 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:25:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!usenet From: Lawrence MacIntyre Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Sending a Break signal using Kermit Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 18:10:28 -0500 Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Lines: 17 Message-ID: <32D57AE4.3F54@nautique.epm.ornl.gov> References: <32D579B8.1CFB@nautique.epm.ornl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: nautique.epm.ornl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6379 Lawrence MacIntyre wrote: > > Hi: > > I have a NEC Versa 6030X Laptop computer and am running C-Kermit 5A > (189). I can't figure out how to send a break signal. I need it to > talk to console ports of Cisco Routers. Can anyone help? How silly of me not to mention that I'm running Linux (Slackware 3.0) with the 2.0.27 kernel. -- Lawrence ~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lawrence MacIntyre Oak Ridge National Laboratory 423.574.8696 lpz@ornl.gov http://www.epm.ornl.gov/~lpz lpz@nautique.epm.ornl.gov From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 01:05:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA11961 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id BAA16677 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:05:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsgate.nytimes.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!199.94.215.18!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!nntp.crl.com!news3.crl.com!nexp.crl.com!crl11.crl.com!not-for-mail From: turkovic@crl.com (Jason Alex Turkovich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 12 Date: 9 Jan 1997 21:52:20 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 54 Message-ID: <5b4lek$8op@crl11.crl.com> References: <5a12ml$5j1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl11.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6380 Hello Frank and all. I have a four year old version of Kermit and it doesn't seem to work with my AMD K5 CPU. I get a divide overflow error. Does anyone know if a latter version of Kermit is compatible with the AMD K5 chip or another equivalent DOS communication program I can use to transfer from my remote to local host. Please respond via e-mail. Thank you, Jason Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 12 is now available for testing (there was no open : Beta 11). : A timer-related problem was fixed that could cause MS-DOS Kermit to block : (hang) on a TCP/IP connection for up to a minute or more if a sent packet : were lost while slowly sending tiny packets. This problem was most : frequently observed in Telnet terminal sessions, while typing. : IF commands containing variables were being overevaluated; e.g. : "if = \%i 4 decrement \%i". Such statements now work again. : The following command-related changes were made for compatibility with : C-Kermit 6.0: : . The LOCAL command now works with macro names as well as \%x variable : names. So, for example: : LOCAL FOO BAR \%A : declares three local variables, foo, bar, and \%a. FOO and BAR are macro : names, which can be used either as "local subroutines" or as long-named : variables accessible via the \m(name) construction. : . The LOCAL command can now be used not only in macro definitions, but also : in command files. This allows construction of portable command files : with private data, without danger of conflict with variable names already : in use globally, or by other procedures. : . MSLEEP added as a synonym for MPAUSE (millisecond sleep). : To get it: : Anonymous ftp to kermit.columbia.edu, directory kermit/test/bin, binary mode, : file msk315.zip. ZIP file contains the executable, MSK315.EXE, and a brief : description of the changes since version 3.14, MSK315.DOC. : Report problems via email to kermit@columbia.edu. : Thanks, as always, to Joe Doupnik of Utah State University for his : excellent work. : - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 03:56:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id DAA18819 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 03:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id DAA24385 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 03:56:55 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!nntp.uio.no!news.apfel.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de!infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de!usenet From: Arne Biastoch Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 dialer doesn't pop up Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:16:43 +0100 Organization: Institut fuer Meereskunde Lines: 34 Message-ID: <32D5FAEB.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> References: <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> <5b32qp$1uq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plotin.ifm.uni-kiel.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V3.2 alpha) To: Jeffrey Altman Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6381 Jeffrey Altman wrote: > > Maximize the dialer and then shut it down. > > When you restart, it will be placed in the middle of your screen. Thank you for your fast response on my posting. But unfortunately this doesnt work. I have tried all possible ways, maximizing, resizing, killing - but it stayed invisble in its normal mode. The only way is to delete dialusr.dat, but then I am loosing all of my settings. Is there a way to localize the window position in this file? > How do you shutdown the dialer? Mostly by clicking on the shutdown window button, but I have tried also the File menu. Arne ______________________________________________________________________________ Arne Biastoch Institut fuer Meereskunde /| Dept. 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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:58:33 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5b50b7$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cust2.max1.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6382 Hello, I'm 14 years old and I think I may be a gay. I'm looking for some support and friendship with a older male age 18-40. Please email if you can help. From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 05:42:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id FAA06917 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 05:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id FAA29300 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 05:42:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!agate!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!news From: Neil Long Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 dialer doesn't pop up Date: 10 Jan 1997 09:55:07 GMT Organization: Department of Materials, University of Oxford Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5b53lr$6t2@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <32D4FD9E.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> <5b32qp$1uq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <32D5FAEB.41C6@ifm.uni-kiel.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6383 Arne Biastoch writes: >Jeffrey Altman wrote: >> >> Maximize the dialer and then shut it down. >> >> When you restart, it will be placed in the middle of your screen. >Thank you for your fast response on my posting. >But unfortunately this doesnt work. I have tried all possible ways, >maximizing, resizing, killing - but it stayed invisble in its normal >mode. >The only way is to delete dialusr.dat, but then I am loosing all of my >settings. Is there a way to localize the window position in this file? >> How do you shutdown the dialer? >Mostly by clicking on the shutdown window button, but I have tried also >the File menu. >Arne I don;t have access to the machine which I use K95 on at present but I think I was able to get around this by selecting the properties of the 'shortcut' to dialer and changing the run min/max/win settings. Sorry not to be more helpful but I use K95 at home and UNIX in the lab. Neil -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Neil J Long, Department of Materials, University of Oxford * Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PH, UK * EMail: Neil.Long@materials.oxford.ac.uk * Tel: +44 (0)1865-273678 Fax: +44 (0)1865-273789 From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 07:32:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA08000 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id HAA22799 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:32:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!metro.atlanta.com!news.he.net!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!mordred.cc.jyu.fi!cyberspam!usenet Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc From: dozer@netwizards.net Subject: cmsg cancel <5b50b7$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Control: cancel <5b50b7$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: Approved: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Reply-To: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) X-Cancelled-by: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Followup-to: junk References: <5b50b7$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:58:33 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1327709 Spam-cancel: "would you be my friend?" From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 11:40:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA21556 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA05435 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:40:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc!post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us!tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us From: Thomas Harrington Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: TEST.... Please ignore Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:36:19 -0800 Organization: Las Vegas-Clark County Library District Lines: 1 Message-ID: <32D67003.755B@lvccld.lib.nv.us> Reply-To: tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us NNTP-Posting-Host: q.lvccld.lib.nv.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6384 TEST.... Please ignore From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 12:40:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA04605 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA08796 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:40:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 12 Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:40:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5b5uue$okv$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5a12ml$5j1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5b4lek$8op@crl11.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6385 In article <5b4lek$8op@crl11.crl.com>, Jason Alex Turkovich wrote: : I have a four year old version of Kermit and it doesn't seem to work with my : AMD K5 CPU. I get a divide overflow error. : Does anyone know if a latter version of Kermit is compatible with : the AMD K5 chip... : It should be. Why don't you get it and see. If you have problems with it, report them to us. This time, don't wait four years :-) ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 17:56:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA06300 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id RAA24188 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:56:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!sunic!mn6.swip.net!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!cold.news.pipex.net!pipex!norman.travellog.co.uk!edwardsp From: Phil Edwards Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Setting a new key sequence Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:46:20 +0000 Organization: UUNet PIPEX, Cambridge, England Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mailhost.travellog.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6386 > I have the MS-Kermit handbook and easily can switch the function of the key > via "set key ...", but am not able to put two sequences on one key. I want the > \4435 key (Delete) to send \Krtarr and after that the \127, but found no > way to get this to work. > Is it possible and i have missing something, or is this not possible with > DOS-Kermit? I use DOS-Kermit 3.14 on my PC at home to dial into the systems at the office, and I use a large set of key definitions in my MSCUSTOM.INI. It ought to be possible to put as many characters as you want onto a single key...looking at my keyboard re-definition file, it seems like set key \4435 \Krtarr\127 ought to work. Regards Phil Edwards Travellog Systems Technical Services Group ========================================================================== Travellog Systems Phone +44 (0)1444 459016 The Priory, Haywards Heath Fax +44 (0)1444 456655 West Sussex, RH16 3LB mailto:edwardsp@travellog.co.uk United Kingdom http://www.travellog.co.uk ========================================================================== From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 10 22:53:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA21246 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA08407 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:53:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Setting a new key sequence Message-ID: <1997Jan10.194031.91677@cc.usu.edu> Date: 10 Jan 97 19:40:31 MDT References: Organization: Utah State University Lines: 25 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6387 In article , Phil Edwards writes: >> I have the MS-Kermit handbook and easily can switch the function of the key >> via "set key ...", but am not able to put two sequences on one key. I want the >> \4435 key (Delete) to send \Krtarr and after that the \127, but found no >> way to get this to work. >> Is it possible and i have missing something, or is this not possible with >> DOS-Kermit? > > I use DOS-Kermit 3.14 on my PC at home to dial into the systems at the > office, and I use a large set of key definitions in my MSCUSTOM.INI. It > ought to be possible to put as many characters as you want onto a single > key...looking at my keyboard re-definition file, it seems like > > set key \4435 \Krtarr\127 > > ought to work. ------------------ We took care of this by direct comms, but since your message just arrived in my NEWS reader here is the story again for others to consider. The \127 is converted to a binary byte in the parser while reading the definition, and thus it appears to be part of the spelling of a verb's name. To avoid spelling errors we deliniate the verb's name as \{krtarr} and then tack on the \127 delete control code. Thusly: \{krtarr}\127. Isn't string substitution et al wonderful? Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 11 18:22:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA23351 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 18:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA23199 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 18:22:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit binaries -- have lots, need more Date: 11 Jan 1997 23:22:42 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 58 Message-ID: <5b97c2$l63$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6388 Since C-Kermit 6.0 was announced about a month ago, we've accumulated nearly 200 binaries for different UNIX, VMS, and other platforms. You can see a list of them at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html#getit Or more specifically, for UNIX at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60ubin.html and for VMS at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60vbin.html Some of the recent arrivals include C-Kermit 6.0 for: Linux 2.0 on the Alpha OS-9/68000 2.4 AOS/VS "Classic" DG/UX 5.40 on Intel RS/6000 with AIX 4.2 Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1 on Intel SINIX 5.42 on Intel NeXTSTEP on Intel and Sparc etc etc. We also have brand-new Slackware Linux install packages for both Intel (ELF) and Alpha from Patrick Volkerding (thanks!) (we still need similar packages for Debian and Red Hat), as well as a new install package for AIX 4.x, in ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives. But we still get requests for up-to-date C-Kermit 6.0 binaries that we don't have, notably: DG/UX on 88000 Solaris on PowerPC Linux on MIPS, PowerPC, and Sparc NeXTSTEP on PA-RISC Minix on anything AIX on PS/2 Apple A/UX Apollo Aegis Commodore Amiga with System V R4 UNIX COHERENT and Interactive UNIXes on Intel SGI with old versions of IRIX and any others you don't see listed on the aforementioned URLs. The C-Kermit 6.0 Web page has all the appropriate pointers to the source code and build procedures: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html If you can supply any of the missing binaries, please let me know. Thanks! - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 11 19:41:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA08056 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id TAA26921 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:41:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!128.6.21.17!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!usenet From: hungridg@rci.rutgers.edu (Wayne Hungridge) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: DIAL problem w/ USR Sportster 33600 in 5A(191) Date: 12 Jan 1997 00:34:06 GMT Organization: Rutgers University Lines: 79 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b9bhu$hea@dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dizzy-asy-8.rutgers.edu X-poster: hungridg@rci-dialup X-Newsreader: NeoLogic News for OS/2 [version: 4.2 UNREGISTERED 30 days remaining] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6389 Been using ckermit 5A(191) with BocaModem 14.4 for some time. Upgraded to USR Sportster 33600/Fax internal modem and am having problems with DIAL command. Following sequence observed: ATQ0H1 Hangup OK Initializing: 17:07:33... AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4 No response from modem, retrying... No response from modem, retrying again... No response from modem, retrying again... DIAL Failure: 17:07:49: Error initializing modem. Now...when running following script: output AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4\13 input 0 OK if failure end 1 output ATDT4457100\13 :loop input goto loop obtain following results: AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4 OK ATDTxxxxxxx CONNECT 31200/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS which is normal. Further, I am able to connect from IBM's Dial Other Provider (although busy signals aren't always detected) and can use ckermit as telnet client. Modem also works in PmComm, and USR's RapidComm (in a WIN-OS2 session). Setup strings: set delay 1 ; I escape back quickly set dial display on ; I like to watch C-Kermit dial set window 4 ; Use 4 window slots set block 3 ; Use 16-bit CRC error checking set receive packet-length 2000 ; Use 2000-character Kermit packets set send packet-length 2000 ; Use 2000-character Kermit packets set file names literal ; Use long file names. Also have to do this on set terminal apc on ; Change to ON if desired set server display on ; Show file display in server mode too set modem sportster set carrier auto set port com2 set speed 115200 set dial speed-matching off set dial error-correction on set dial compression on set dial dial-command ATDT%s\13 set dial display on System: OS/2 WARP v.3 486DX2-66 32 MB ram 256K cache 2xCDROM, 2 floppy drives, floppy tape drive, 2 hard drives, 2 printers, mouse on COM1, Promise EIDE2300+ w/ com ports disabled, ATI VGA-Basic. No interrupt conflicts. If you want a copy of the debug log or need any other info, please email me at address below. Thanks for any help you can give me. Wayne Hungridge hungridg@rci.rutgers.edu From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 11 19:53:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA09670 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id TAA27493 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:53:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: DIAL problem w/ USR Sportster 33600 in 5A(191) Date: 12 Jan 1997 00:53:09 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 59 Message-ID: <5b9cll$puj$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5b9bhu$hea@dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6390 In article <5b9bhu$hea@dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu>, Wayne Hungridge wrote: : Been using ckermit 5A(191) with BocaModem 14.4 for some time. : Upgraded to USR Sportster 33600/Fax internal modem and am having : problems with DIAL command. Following sequence observed: : : ATQ0H1 : Hangup OK : Initializing: 17:07:33... : AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4 : No response from modem, retrying... : No response from modem, retrying again... : No response from modem, retrying again... : DIAL Failure: 17:07:49: Error initializing modem. : That means it's sending "AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4" and not getting an OK (or "0") response. : Now...when running following script: : : output AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4\13 : input 0 OK : if failure end 1 : output ATDT4457100\13 : :loop : input : goto loop : : obtain following results: : : AT&F1&D2&C1&M4&U7&K3X4 : OK : ATDTxxxxxxx : CONNECT 31200/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS : : which is normal. : OK, so that means the initialization string is OK. : Setup strings: : : set modem sportster : set carrier auto : set port com2 : set speed 115200 : Are these the same settings you used when you ran the script that worked? My first guess would be that the modem isn't autobauding at 115200 bps. Another possibility is flow control. What happens if you SET FLOW NONE prior to dialing, and then SET FLOW RTS/CTS only after the DIAL command succeeded? If none of that works, I'd suggest replacing your DIAL command with a macro that dials the modem using the commands that you say work, until we release the new Kermit for OS/2, hopefully within a few weeks. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 12 12:04:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA07045 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 12:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA01307 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 12:04:29 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!metro.atlanta.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!judith.state.net!news.proptech.com!jwallace From: jwallace@proptech.com (Jerry Wallace) Subject: Re: SCO ANSI in MS-Kermit? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:12:44 GMT References: <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms> <1997Jan7.110722.91256@cc.usu.edu> Organization: Private System - Saint Paul, MN, USA Lines: 30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6391 Joe Doupnik wrote: >bl220056@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (Joseph G. Woodrum) writes: >> Are there any plans to add SCO ANSI emulation to MS-Kermit 3.15? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joseph >> jwoodrum@bscvax.wvnet.edu >--------- > No. Why? Because SCO ANSI requires sending keyboard key make and >break codes. The only way of getting those is to go below the BIOS and >hook the keyboard itself. Alas, that has two consequences: unhooking may >not be possible and it is no longer possible to deal with command keys, >say for example ALT-x and any keyboard verb. > Joe D. This runs counter to my recent experience with Digital VT510/VT525 terminals (over a serial link) and FTP OnNet (over TCP/IP) set to SCO ANSI emulation. Both provide good implementations of SCO's ansi (which is different than other ansi definitions - SCO claims to be closer to the ANSI standard). Without actually placing a data scope on the line, it appears that the Digital terminals are sending a traditional character stream not make/break scan codes. I have wanted to see SCO ANSI added to the list of things DOS kermit knows but don't really know where to start. I have several manuals for the Digital terminals that describe the personality, but no idea where I might begin in the source code. Any pointers Joe? -- Jerry Wallace From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 12 13:34:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA22057 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA05770 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:34:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!madman.ronin.mindspring.com!news From: cmattern@mindspring.com (Chuck Mattern) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:21:01 GMT Organization: Ronin Microsystems Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb4kl.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Server-Date: 12 Jan 1997 18:21:57 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6392 I just obtained ckermit 5A (190) from sunsite and am running it on linux 2.0.25. I compiled with linuxtcp and used the LINUXFSSTND option to get the lock file in /var/locks. Everything seems fine expect that sometimes kermit hangs when I try to set line. I have checked the device file with fuser and nothing else is accessing it, I am running as root so permissions should be no big deal however I did try setting the ownership to both uucp:uucp and root:root. I've seen this same behavior under hp-ux from time to time but again not consistently enough to track down a cause. Can anyone offer a clue to the clueless one here? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Chuck Mattern | "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.."| |cmattern@mindspring.com | -Friedrich Nietzsche- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 12 13:35:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA22056 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA05772 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:34:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!madman.ronin.mindspring.com!news From: cmattern@mindspring.com (Chuck Mattern) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:53:28 GMT Organization: Ronin Microsystems Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5batt8$dq@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb4kl.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Server-Date: 12 Jan 1997 18:22:00 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6393 In article <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com>, cmattern@mindspring.com (Chuck Mattern) writes: > I just obtained ckermit 5A (190) from sunsite and am running it on > linux 2.0.25. I compiled with linuxtcp and used the LINUXFSSTND > option to get the lock file in /var/locks. Everything seems fine > expect that sometimes kermit hangs when I try to set line. I have > checked the device file with fuser and nothing else is accessing it, I > am running as root so permissions should be no big deal however I did > try setting the ownership to both uucp:uucp and root:root. I've seen > this same behavior under hp-ux from time to time but again not > consistently enough to track down a cause. Can anyone offer a clue to > the clueless one here? As a followup to myself, hitting ^C gets over the hang and I can access the modem perfectly after this. Unfortunately this is not an option as I am trying to run a script. I've also tried setting the permission on the device file to 666, still hangs... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Chuck Mattern | "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.."| |cmattern@mindspring.com | -Friedrich Nietzsche- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 12 13:45:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA23501 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA06235 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:45:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: 12 Jan 1997 18:45:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6394 In article <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com>, Chuck Mattern wrote: : I just obtained ckermit 5A (190) from sunsite and am running it on : linux 2.0.25. : Kermit doesn't come from sunsite. Kermit doesn't come from tsx-11, or anyplace else except from the Kermit Project at Columbia University. If you had picked it up here, you would have got the current version, 6.0.192. : I compiled with linuxtcp and used the LINUXFSSTND : option to get the lock file in /var/locks. : This is the standard configuration for version 6.0. : Everything seems fine : expect that sometimes kermit hangs when I try to set line. I have : checked the device file with fuser and nothing else is accessing it, I : am running as root so permissions should be no big deal however I did : try setting the ownership to both uucp:uucp and root:root. I've seen : this same behavior under hp-ux from time to time but again not : consistently enough to track down a cause. Can anyone offer a clue to : the clueless one here? : First please come to: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ to get the real C-Kermit package, install it, and see if you still have the same problem. If so, please send a more complete report. Exactly what commands did you give? If you are giving a SET LINE command without giving a SET MODEM first, then the driver has not been told to open the device in CLOCAL mode, and so might wait forever for carrier to appear. In that case, use "set carrier-watch off" prior to "set line", or else use "set modem type" prior to "set line" to let Linux know you will be using a modem. This is described very clearly, I hope, in the manual, "Using C-Kermit". - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 12 16:24:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA18995 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id QAA13766 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:24:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!mr.net!news.mid.net!news.cjnetworks.com!usenet From: sstone@everlast.com (Sam Stone) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Alpha Paging Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:22:01 GMT Organization: Everlast Internet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32de5519.8369794@news.cjnetworks.com> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: root@softcell.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port83.cjnetworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6395 We snagged Kermit for Unix from Columbia. We bought two copies of the book, which everyone should do. We implemented the TAP alphanumeric paging script. It runs like a champ! A champ, I tell you! Just thought you'd like to know. -- Sam Stone From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 12 16:27:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA19393 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id QAA13994 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:27:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Alpha Paging Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:27:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5bbkvi$igm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <32de5519.8369794@news.cjnetworks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6396 In article <32de5519.8369794@news.cjnetworks.com>, Sam Stone wrote: : We snagged Kermit for Unix from Columbia. We bought two copies of : the book, which everyone should do. : (That's C-Kermit 6.0, and the new Second Edition of "Using C-Kermit"...) : We implemented the TAP alphanumeric paging script. : : It runs like a champ! 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Makela) Followup-to: junk References: <5bbng3$3h0@nntp1.best.com> Date: 12 Jan 1997 22:10:11 GMT X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1368059 Spam-cancel: "Internet Fax Service" From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 14 15:03:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA15829 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA24186 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:03:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!corvette.mst6.lanl.gov!nntp.cs.sandia.gov!lynx.unm.edu!news From: mazer@technet.nm.org (Neal Mazer) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit tcp/ip Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:15:13 GMT Organization: New Mexico Technet Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5bgm01$bll@lynx.unm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nealnm.nm.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.3 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6398 Hello All, I'd like to use kermit over a PPP connection. I'm using winsock 2.0b. Is this possible? If so, how? Thanks in advance. Neal From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 14 15:11:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA17021 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA24505 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:10:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!chi-news.cic.net!metro.atlanta.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!newsfeed.pnl.gov!netnews.nwnet.net!news.pfc.forestry.ca!bcsystems!bcsystems!nntp Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Files transfer error over WAN Message-ID: <1997Jan14.084533.8826@vmsmail.gov.bc.ca> From: ug387@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Phat Tran) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:50:56 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: ptran.ses.gov.bc.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Lines: 18 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6399 Hello, I upload/download files accross a wide area network and encounter repeatable "retry" and "host does not respond" errors. The problem only occur in the download session (files being sent to the PC from a UNIX host). I am using MS-kermit 3.14 on the PC and C-kermit 5A(190) for UNIX . I have tried different speed, packet size, windows size to no success. Can anyone suggest some thing else that I can try or where to concentrate my effort for an answer. Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions. Phat Tran From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 14 15:14:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA17448 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA24692 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:14:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Files transfer error over WAN Date: 14 Jan 1997 20:14:06 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5bgpee$t2b$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997Jan14.084533.8826@vmsmail.gov.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6400 In article <1997Jan14.084533.8826@vmsmail.gov.bc.ca>, Phat Tran wrote: : I upload/download files accross a wide area network and encounter : repeatable "retry" and "host does not respond" errors. The problem : only occur in the download session (files being sent to the PC from a : UNIX host). I am using MS-kermit 3.14 on the PC and C-kermit : 5A(190) for UNIX . I have tried different speed, packet size, windows : size to no success. : : Can anyone suggest some thing else that I can try or where to : concentrate my effort for an answer. : The problem with Wide Area Network (WAN) connections is that they are bursty -- fast and snappy one minute, slow as molasses the next. C-Kermit 6.0 (released recently) and MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 (still in Beta) work much better over this type of connection than previous releases did because they have a new adaptive timeout mechanism. Info at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 14 15:17:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA18277 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA24781 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:17:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit tcp/ip Date: 14 Jan 1997 20:17:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5bgpki$l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bgm01$bll@lynx.unm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6401 In article <5bgm01$bll@lynx.unm.edu>, Neal Mazer wrote: : I'd like to use kermit over a PPP connection. I'm using : winsock 2.0b. Is this possible? If so, how? : What operating system? If Windows 95 or NT, you can use Kermit 95: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html If Windows 3.x, then the software would be MS-DOS Kermit, but you can't use it with Winsock; you would need to use its built-in TCP/IP stack directly over the PPP driver. There is also a shim from Dan Lanciani called ndis3pkt that has been used to make Winsock and MS-DOS Kermit's TCP/IP stacks coexist. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 14 21:42:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA25390 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id VAA13406 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:41:56 -0500 (EST) From: arthur@gateway.dircsa.org.au (Arthur Marsh) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: DIAL problem w/ USR Sportster 33600 in 5A(191) Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:51:37 +1030 Organization: DIRC - Disability Information & Resource Centre - Sth Australia Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5bahg1$ef0@gateway.dircsa.org.au> References: <5b9cll$puj$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gateway.dircsa.org.au X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!ns.saard.net!news.camtech.net.au!news.dircsa.org.au!news.dircsa.org.au!not-for-mail Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6402 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : If none of that works, I'd suggest replacing your DIAL command with : a macro that dials the modem using the commands that you say work, until : we release the new Kermit for OS/2, hopefully within a few weeks. 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Any housewife could do it and so can you! Just email me at dozer@netwizards.net to receive your FREE information packet. Thanks for your attention, and I'll be talking with you soon. Bill dozer@netwizards.net From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 01:05:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA24684 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id BAA22197 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:05:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!xara.net!emerald.xara.net!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!gaivota.demon.co.uk!gaivota.demon.co.uk!fonseca From: Carlos Fonseca Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:42:09 +0000 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5batt8$dq@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gaivota.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gaivota.demon.co.uk To: Chuck Mattern In-Reply-To: <5batt8$dq@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6404 On 12 Jan 1997, Chuck Mattern wrote: > As a followup to myself, hitting ^C gets over the hang and I can > access the modem perfectly after this. Unfortunately this is not an > option as I am trying to run a script. I've also tried setting the > permission on the device file to 666, still hangs... I guess you are using the /dev/ttyS? devices... try defining NOOCTFMC (or something like that, this is from memory). I had a similar problem once and that fixed it. Or, try using the cua? devices for dialout, although that won't work well with mgetty. Hope it helps, Carlos From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 02:14:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA08118 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id CAA25467 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:14:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!news.maxwell.syr.edu!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5bhm8h$j6e@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: 15 Jan 1997 06:45:53 GMT Control: cancel <5bhm8h$j6e@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: Sender: dozer@netwizards.net X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 3 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1405001 Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970115.01. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970115.01.html for complete report. Original Subject: A Special Offer! From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 10:13:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA28516 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA06874 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:13:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!news.sgi.com!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!skypoint.com!not-for-mail From: escargo@skypoint.com (David S Cargo) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit tcp/ip Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:58:48 -0600 Organization: SkyPoint Communications Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5birb8$261@mirage.skypoint.com> References: <5bgm01$bll@lynx.unm.edu> <5bgpki$l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mirage.skypoint.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6405 I am using Kermit over TCP/IP and Ethernet. I was wondering if I could improve the performance of transfer of binary files by allowing some nonprinting ASCII characters to not be escaped. So, is there a simple way of determining what characters will make it through a telnet session without breaking anything? Alternatively, would using uuencode on the data before hand be more efficient than having Kermit do its escape character method? Thanks. dsc From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 10:24:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA00530 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA07470 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:24:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!feed1.news.erols.com!news.idt.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.81.128.2!news.slkc.uswest.net!usenet From: ekololli@utah.uswest.net (Abraham Kololli) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problem with NUM-Lock key Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 04:02:05 GMT Organization: Utah Transit Authority Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5bhmp7$l43@slkc2.slkc.uswest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup101.utah.uswest.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6406 Hi Everyone; I have couple of clients who constantly do data entry and use their NUMLOCK key to do data entry. They use Kermit 3.14 for Terminal Emulation, and emulate a VT320. From time to time, Kermit does not recognize that the NUMLOCK key is ON, and acts as if the NUMLOCK key is not selected. These clients have an enhanced 101 keyboard, and I have replaced the keyboard several time, but I don't think the the problem is the keyboard. Also, whenever the do CONTRL W, which in VMS means refresh the screen, they NUMLOCK key gets recognized and everything seems to be working normal. So everytime they experience this problem, they press CONTRL W, and the problem disappears. Is there a solution to this problem? Is there anything I can do to resolve this issue? Thank you for your time. Please send me e-mail directly, if this problem has been discussed in this newsgroup. Sincerely, Ebrahim Kololli ekololli@utah.uswest.net /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Ebrahim Kololli Network Support Supervisor Utah Transit Authority MIS Department 3600 South 700 West Salt Lake City, UT 84119 email: ekololli@utah.uswest.net /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 11:57:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA20600 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA12076 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:57:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit tcp/ip Date: 15 Jan 1997 16:57:50 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5bj2ae$qvb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bgm01$bll@lynx.unm.edu> <5bgpki$l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5birb8$261@mirage.skypoint.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6407 In article <5birb8$261@mirage.skypoint.com>, David S Cargo wrote: : I am using Kermit over TCP/IP and Ethernet. I was wondering if I could : improve the performance of transfer of binary files by allowing some : nonprinting ASCII characters to not be escaped. So, is there a simple : way of determining what characters will make it through a telnet session : without breaking anything? : Only trial and error. In C-Kermit 6.0, there is a new command, SET PREFIXING CAUTIOUS, that causes all the well-known problem characters to be prefixed and the others unprefixed. : Alternatively, would using uuencode on the data before hand be more : efficient than having Kermit do its escape character method? : Definitly not. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 13:12:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA06140 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:12:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA15940 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:12:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.10 Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:12:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5bj6lo$27h$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6408 Version 1.1.10 of Kermit 95 for Windows 95 and Windows NT is now available as a patch to versions 1.1.7, 1.1.8, or 1.1.9. The main purpose of this release is to correct bugs in the 1.1.9 release: . Tall screens didn't work in Windows 95, and various other sizing problems. . Occasional ghost cursor when logical screen width > 80. . VT100/102 numeric keypad did not have default mappings loaded. . Disconnections on TES32 connections when left sitting idle for too long. . Session logs recording more data than they should have. . A problem with the XMODEM and YMODEM autoupload sequence. . The HOSTMDM script didn't work with user-defined modems. . Major problems with HP terminal emulation. . Minor problems with DG terminal emulation. Most important, a new utility is supplied for initializing PCMCIA and/or Plug-n-Play modems -- the type of modem that previously could be used by Kermit 95 only if it had first been used by Hyperterminal or Dialup Networking, due to a bug in the original release of Windows 95 that was corrected in OEM Service Release 2 (which, unfortunately, is not available to owners of original Windows 95). The new utility, K95CINIT, can be run "by hand" or it can be run automatically when Windows is booted by adding it to your startup menu. Instructions are given in DOCS\UPDATES.DOC, section 6.6. There are also a few other improvements: . HPTERM, HP2621, and Wyse 60 emulation have been improved sufficiently for use with HP-UX SAM. Downloadable function keys are now implemented for these terminal types, and downloadable F-key labels are supported by a popup screen, viewable with a new Kverb, \Kfnkeys, assigned by default to Alt-f. . Ability to specify coloration of protected fields in emulations that have them. . Improved help screens on Alt-h. HOW TO GET IT The new release can be ordered in shrink-wrapped or bulk- or site-licensed form from Columbia University. All orders received starting today will be filled with version 1.1.10. Find Kermit 95 ordering information at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Current registered users of Kermit 95 can download the 1.1.10 upgrade patch from our BBS or from our ftp site: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/k95/patches/ or on the Web: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95patch.html NOTE: Our DEC Alpha machine is temporarily out of service, and so the patches for the Alpha/NT version are not yet available. All the new features are documented in the updated UPDATES.DOC file that comes in the patch, and in the updated BUGS.DOC file. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 14:12:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA18180 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id OAA18922 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:12:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with NUM-Lock key Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:12:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 100 Message-ID: <5bja75$5v7$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bhmp7$l43@slkc2.slkc.uswest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6409 In article <5bhmp7$l43@slkc2.slkc.uswest.net>, Abraham Kololli wrote: : I have couple of clients who constantly do data entry and use their : NUMLOCK key to do data entry. They use Kermit 3.14 for Terminal : Emulation, and emulate a VT320. : What operating system? DOS, Windows 3.x, ... ? : From time to time, Kermit does not : recognize that the NUMLOCK key is ON, and acts as if the NUMLOCK key : is not selected. : Is the Num Lock really on? You can tell by looking at the light. Kermit reads scan codes from the PC BIOS (but if you are using Windows, then all sorts of software layers are inserted between Kermit and BIOS). The BIOS reports one scan code for a numeric keypad key when Num Lock is on, and a different code when Num Lock is off. All that MS-DOS Kermit is doing is reading the scan codes from (what it thinks is) the BIOS. : These clients have an enhanced 101 keyboard, and I have replaced the : keyboard several time, but I don't think the the problem is the : keyboard. Also, whenever the do CONTRL W, which in VMS means refresh : the screen, they NUMLOCK key gets recognized and everything seems to : be working normal. So everytime they experience this problem, they : press CONTRL W, and the problem disappears. Is there a solution to : this problem? Is there anything I can do to resolve this issue? : Aha, then maybe you are not talking about Num Lock at all -- perhaps what you are really talking about is the state of the emulated VT320 numeric keypad, which can be in either Numeric or Application mode. To use the PC's numeric keypad as if it were a VT terminal's numeric keypad in MS-DOS Kermit, you must make the appropriate key assignments, since they are not made by default. By default, when Num Lock is not on, the keys have the same assignments as the gray keys which have the same label (e.g. Home, End, Left Arrow, etc), for the benefit of 88-key keyboards. To make the desired key assignments, you can use the VT300.INI file in the KEYBOARD subdirectory of the MS-DOS Kermit directory: take keyboard\vt300.ini The pertinent commands from this file are: set key \850 \kkp0 ; Keypad 0 (Numlock) Keypad 0 set key \338 \kkp0 ; Keypad 0 (Normal) Keypad 0 set key \847 \kkp1 ; Keypad 1 (Numlock) Keypad 1 set key \335 \kkp1 ; Keypad 1 (Normal) Keypad 1 set key \848 \kkp2 ; Keypad 2 (Numlock) Keypad 2 set key \336 \kkp2 ; Keypad 2 (Normal) Keypad 2 set key \849 \kkp3 ; Keypad 3 (Numlock) Keypad 3 set key \337 \kkp3 ; Keypad 3 (Normal) Keypad 3 set key \843 \kkp4 ; Keypad 4 (Numlock) Keypad 4 set key \331 \kkp4 ; Keypad 4 (Normal) Keypad 4 set key \844 \kkp5 ; Keypad 5 (Numlock) Keypad 5 set key \332 \kkp5 ; Keypad 5 (Normal) Keypad 5 set key \845 \kkp6 ; Keypad 6 (Numlock) Keypad 6 set key \333 \kkp6 ; Keypad 6 (Normal) Keypad 6 set key \839 \kkp7 ; Keypad 7 (Numlock) Keypad 7 set key \327 \kkp7 ; Keypad 7 (Normal) Keypad 7 set key \840 \kkp8 ; Keypad 8 (Numlock) Keypad 8 set key \328 \kkp8 ; Keypad 8 (normal) Keypad 8 set key \841 \kkp9 ; Keypad 9 (Numlock) Keypad 9 set key \329 \kkp9 ; Keypad 9 (Normal) Keypad 9 set key \334 \kkpminus ; Keypad + Keypad - set key \2382 \kkpcoma ; ALT Keypad + Keypad , set key \851 \kkpdot ; Keypad . (Numlock) Keypad . set key \339 \kkpdot ; Keypad . (normal) Keypad . set key \4365 \Kkpenter ; Keypad Enter Keypad Enter ; F1 PF1 (default Kermit) ; Use GOLD.COM to make Num Lock work as F1/PF1/Gold. set key \325 \kPF1 ; This works with WPGGOLD.COM. set key \4399 \kPF2 ; Keypad / PF2 set key \311 \kPF3 ; Keypad * PF3 set key \330 \kPF4 ; Keypad - PF4 Key You need the GOLD TSR to make the Num Lock key work like the DEC Gold key. The GOLD TSR is found in the same directory as the VT300.INI file. The rest of the commands in the VT300.INI file set up the function keys and editing keys to be like the corresponding DEC VT220/320 keys. But there is still one more piece to the puzzle. As noted, the VT keypad can be in one of two modes: numeric or application. It is the responsibility of the host application to send an escape sequence to put the keypad into the appropriate mode before attempting to read keystrokes from it. But some applications fail to do that and simply ASSUME that the keypad is in the right mode. In many cases this assumption is wrong. So MS-DOS Kermit has a command that lets you force the keypad into the desired mode: SET TERMINAL KEYPAD { APPLICATION, NUMERIC } I hope this clears things up. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 17:44:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA08659 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id RAA29565 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:44:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us!tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us From: Thomas Harrington Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 1.1.9 and Transmission Blocked? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:44:23 -0800 Organization: Las Vegas-Clark County Library District Lines: 29 Message-ID: <32DCFB57.3B1@lvccld.lib.nv.us> Reply-To: tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us NNTP-Posting-Host: q.lvccld.lib.nv.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6410 We got these new laptops. NEC 6010H are nice, but we have had a few problems with them. Here is "one" of them. I use K95 1.1.9 and a null modem cable to talk to the managment port on our chipcom concentrators. I run K95, type 'set port com1', 'set speed 9600', 'set term type vt100', 'set carrier off'. I type 'c' and connect. After working for a little while(defined as more then 1 but less than 5 minutes) I get a "TRANSMISSION BLOCKED 14" message at the bottem of the screen. It counts down to zero, and I get disconnected. If I run K95 again, I get another 1-5 minutes of use. I wish I had timed it exactly, but was too busy racing against the clock to get to ports configured. What could the be? If it were a hardware conflict, i.e. IRQ, then I'd expect it not to work in the first place. The laptop is a NEC Versa 6010H Pentuim 133 w/32MB RAM 1 Gig HD, 3COM 562 (Modem and LAN card), it had a second internal modem(the one in the PCMCIA card is going, the others are on order), and the usual IR ports. The "other" problem is eluded to in the beginning of this message were with trying to get the 3COM card to NOT lock the system. There was a conflict with the IR ports. Any Ideas? Tom Harrington tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us Sorry about the test message a few days ago, for the past 2 months, my newsserver and I have been at WAR. It was bloody, it was long, but I won. :-) From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 15 18:34:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA21736 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA01982 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:34:52 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 1.1.9 and Transmission Blocked? Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:34:51 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5bjpir$li2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32DCFB57.3B1@lvccld.lib.nv.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6411 In article <32DCFB57.3B1@lvccld.lib.nv.us>, Thomas Harrington wrote: : We got these new laptops. NEC 6010H are nice, but we have had a few : problems with them. Here is "one" of them. : : I use K95 1.1.9 and a null modem cable to talk to the managment port on : our chipcom concentrators. I run K95, type 'set port com1', 'set speed : 9600', 'set term type vt100', 'set carrier off'. I type 'c' and : connect. After working for a little while(defined as more then 1 but : less than 5 minutes) I get a "TRANSMISSION BLOCKED 14" message at the : bottem of the screen. It counts down to zero, and I get disconnected. : If I run K95 again, I get another 1-5 minutes of use. I wish I had : timed it exactly, but was too busy racing against the clock to get to : ports configured. : : What could the be? If it were a hardware conflict, i.e. IRQ, then I'd : expect it not to work in the first place. : Me too. Well... Kermit 95's default type of flow control is RTS/CTS. I'll bet your Chipcom management port doesn't bother with that. Try telling K-95 to "set flow none" and see if that helps. : The laptop is a NEC Versa 6010H Pentuim 133 w/32MB RAM 1 Gig HD, 3COM : 562 (Modem and LAN card), it had a second internal modem(the one in the : PCMCIA card is going, the others are on order), and the usual IR ports. : The "other" problem is eluded to in the beginning of this message were : with trying to get the 3COM card to NOT lock the system. There was a : conflict with the IR ports. Any Ideas? : You're on your own with that one. If you can demonstrate that there's a problem with it that is specific to Kermit then maybe we can help, but if the 3Com card locks the system even when Kermit is not involved then you've got one of those lovely Windows configuration problems that has set the productivity of the modern world back by about 150%... I've tended to find that if I have a PC with a CDROM, sound card, the usual assortment of disks, an Ethernet board, a printer port, and a mouse, that I can NEVER get a away with having more than one COM port. Wouldn't it be nice to go back to 1981 and redesign the PC to be a real computer? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 16 07:01:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA29177 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 07:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id HAA24316 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 07:01:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!sol.caps.maine.edu!news From: abuse@127.0.0.1 (David D Desilets) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Help with dial.ini script please? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:00:22 GMT Organization: "Throw 'em away 'till the FINAL NOTICE arrives" Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5bl56r$bru@sol.caps.maine.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: async15.tservpi1.caps.maine.edu X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6412 Can anyone tell me where to ftp (if possible) the "language" and syntax for writing dial.ini and other scripts for kermit? As a first approximation (and assuming that I'm not trying to do anything fancy--I'm not) would Winsock's scripting language be close enough? Is there ANY online documentation for this program beside general FAQs? If so, where? Thanks in advance, David Desilets +-------------------------------------------------+ | David D Desilets | | | | "Guilty Until Proven Affluent" | | | | e-mail: desilets@maine.REMOVE_THIS.maine.edu | +-------------------------------------------------+ From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 16 08:54:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA14029 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA29605 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:54:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!delos.dra.hmg.gb!trog.dra.hmg.gb!not-for-mail From: Doug Pickering Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 crash Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 13:39:59 +0000 Organization: DERA Lines: 16 Message-ID: <32DE2FAF.762C@dra.hmg.gb> Reply-To: djpickering@dra.hmg.gb NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.80.23.233 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6413 Hi, I am trying to get the output from: SHOW KEY ALL in K95 redirected to an output file. I have tried log session which does not work. If I create a script with SHOW KEY ALL in and run it from the command prompt with K95 SK.KMT > A.A K95 dies with a divide by zero error. I am using K95 1.1.9. Any ideas? Doug Pickering From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 16 10:10:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA25240 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA03495 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:10:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 crash Date: 16 Jan 1997 15:10:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5blgcc$1gl$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32DE2FAF.762C@dra.hmg.gb> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6414 In article <32DE2FAF.762C@dra.hmg.gb>, Doug Pickering wrote: : Hi, : : I am trying to get the output from: : SHOW KEY ALL : in K95 redirected to an output file. : : I have tried log session which does not work. : : If I create a script with SHOW KEY ALL in and run it from the command : prompt with : K95 SK.KMT > A.A : K95 dies with a divide by zero error. : : I am using K95 1.1.9. Any ideas? Kermit 95 does not use stdout for output. Therefore, it cannot be redirected to a file. The SAVE KEY command is used to save the keymap settings to a file. You can also: SET PRINTER SHOW KEY ALL And then use the mouse to select and print to file with Ctrl-Shift-Drag-Button 1 Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 16 12:23:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA19008 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA09671 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:23:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help with dial.ini script please? Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:23:24 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5blo6c$916$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bl56r$bru@sol.caps.maine.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6415 In article <5bl56r$bru@sol.caps.maine.edu>, David D Desilets wrote: : Can anyone tell me where to ftp (if possible) the "language" and : syntax for writing dial.ini and other scripts for kermit? As a : first approximation (and assuming that I'm not trying to do : anything fancy--I'm not) would Winsock's scripting language be : close enough? : Kermit has its own cross-platform scripting language that dates back far beyond Winsock and most others. It is documented in "Using MS-DOS Kermit" and "Using C-Kermit". These are books; you can find out about them at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 12:57:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA16206 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA10640 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:57:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: packrat!dsew@columbia.edu (David Sewell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Supersedes: <5bocru$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: 17 Jan 1997 17:29:08 GMT Organization: Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: packrat.aml.arizona.edu NNTP-Posting-User: dsew X-Newsposter: Pnews 4.0-test51 (15 Jan 97) Originator: dsew@packrat.UUCP (David Sewell) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6416 I'm in the middle of a work day which sees me at the moment flipping back and forth between windowed and full-screen C-Kermit sessions under OS/2, retrieving full-text research articles, connecting with databases, and merrily printing, storing, manipulating, and scrolling information in various ways that I've come to take for granted under C-Kermit. C-Kermit is one of my major computing Swiss Army knives; I even rely on it to translate ISO Latin-1 based files to CP850, Mac, and plain ASCII formats for distributing articles on diskette. Anyway, it occurred to me to pause for a moment and say thanks to Frank da Cruz and everyone else involved in keeping Kermit current. The multiplatform support is a shining beacon in a world that increasingly thinks "operating system" is a synonym for "Windows" (the fine OS/2 support is much appreciated). DS -- David Sewell * dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu | "Seekers for gold dig much Dep't of Geosciences, University of Arizona | earth, and find little gold." WWW: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/ | --Heraclitus From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 12:58:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA16247 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA10654 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:58:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: packrat!dsew@columbia.edu (David Sewell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5bocru$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Control: cancel <5bocru$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: 17 Jan 1997 17:29:23 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5boctj$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: packrat.aml.arizona.edu NNTP-Posting-User: dsew Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1446203 <5bocru$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- David Sewell * dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu | "Seekers for gold dig much Dep't of Geosciences, University of Arizona | earth, and find little gold." WWW: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/ | --Heraclitus From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 13:27:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA22202 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA12068 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:27:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: 17 Jan 1997 18:27:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6417 In article <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu>, David Sewell wrote: : Anyway, it occurred to me to pause for a moment and say thanks to : Frank da Cruz and everyone else involved in keeping Kermit current. : The multiplatform support is a shining beacon in a world that : increasingly thinks "operating system" is a synonym for "Windows" : (the fine OS/2 support is much appreciated). : Thanks for saying that -- it really tops off the week. Of course we mainly have Jeff Altman (and before him Kai Uwe Rommel (and before him Chris Adie)) to thank for OS/2 C-Kermit. I hope you'll feel the same way when we announce "Kermit 95 for OS/2" within (I hope) a few weeks. It's a big step up from OS/2 C-Kermit -- but, like Kermit 95 for other "operating systems" :-) it will not be free in the sense that OS/2 C-Kermit was. For a preview, see: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html but imagine you are reading about OS/2 rather than Windows 95 or NT. And watch this space for further announcements. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 14:53:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA16448 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id OAA16211 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:52:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with NUM-Lock key Message-ID: <1997Jan17.121328.92139@cc.usu.edu> Date: 17 Jan 97 12:13:28 MDT References: <5bhmp7$l43@slkc2.slkc.uswest.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 74 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6418 In article <5bhmp7$l43@slkc2.slkc.uswest.net>, ekololli@utah.uswest.net (Abraham Kololli) writes: > Hi Everyone; > > I have couple of clients who constantly do data entry and use their > NUMLOCK key to do data entry. They use Kermit 3.14 for Terminal > Emulation, and emulate a VT320. From time to time, Kermit does not > recognize that the NUMLOCK key is ON, and acts as if the NUMLOCK key > is not selected. > > These clients have an enhanced 101 keyboard, and I have replaced the > keyboard several time, but I don't think the the problem is the > keyboard. Also, whenever the do CONTRL W, which in VMS means refresh > the screen, they NUMLOCK key gets recognized and everything seems to > be working normal. So everytime they experience this problem, they > press CONTRL W, and the problem disappears. Is there a solution to > this problem? Is there anything I can do to resolve this issue? > > Thank you for your time. Please send me e-mail directly, if this > problem has been discussed in this newsgroup. > Sincerely, > Ebrahim Kololli > ekololli@utah.uswest.net > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > Ebrahim Kololli > Network Support Supervisor > Utah Transit Authority > MIS Department > 3600 South 700 West > Salt Lake City, UT 84119 > email: ekololli@utah.uswest.net > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ----------------------- Most likely the remote host is doing the changes via commands sent from it to the MSK terminal emulator. From terminal emulation doc msvibm.vt: CSI ? Ps;...;Ps h SM Set DEC mode, see table below CSI ? Ps;...;Ps l RM Reset DEC mode, see table below Ps Mnemonic Mode Set (h) Reset (l) 0 error (ignored) 1 DECCKM cursor keys application cursor/numeric 2 DECANM ANSI VT320/VT102 VT52 3 DECCOLM Columns +132 col 80 col 4 DECSCLM *Scrolling smooth jump 5 DECSCNM Screen, whole reverse video normal 6 DECOM Origin stay in margins ignore margins 7 DECAWM Autowrap on off 8 DECARM *Autorepeat on off 9 DECINLM *Interlace on off 18 DECPFF Printer term Form Feed none 19 DECPEX Printer extent screen scrolling region 25 DECTCEM Cursor visible invisible 34 DECRLM Writing right to left left to right 35 DECHEBM +++Invoke macro: KEYBOARDS KEYBOARDR 36 DECHEM ++++Hebrew encoding Multinational Hebrew NRC 38 n/a Graphics (Tek) ++graphics text 42 DECNRCM Nat Repl Char enable disable 66 DECNKM Numeric keypad application numeric 68 DECKBUM *Typewriter data process typewriter + Horizontal scrolling. See comments on EGA boards. ++ Ignored if DISABLE TEK has been given. +++ VT320 DEC supplements for Hebrew systems adapted from VT420-Hebrew terminals, invokes a new keyboard map. Kermit invokes macros above. ++++ Macros TerminalR/S have been removed in v3.13. (SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET must be given to employ DEC National Replacement Characters. Enabling NRCs replaces G0..G3 chars sets with the NRC set and disables 8-bit controls; disabling only re-enables 8-bit controls.) Notice the 66 item on the numeric keypad state. The host sends such commands. You can also issue MSK command SET TERM KEYPAD NUMERIC or APPLICATION. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 15:23:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA26412 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA17783 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:23:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux2.cso.uiuc.edu!shair From: rmshair@uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: 17 Jan 1997 20:19:16 GMT Organization: Bob Shair Consulting Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Originator: shair@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6419 fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: >I hope you'll feel the same way when we announce "Kermit 95 for OS/2" >within (I hope) a few weeks. It's a big step up from OS/2 C-Kermit -- >but, like Kermit 95 for other "operating systems" :-) it will not be >free in the sense that OS/2 C-Kermit was. So in addition to Windows 95 on Intel platforms Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 on Intel platforms Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 on Power PC platforms Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 on DEC Alpha platforms we'll be able to add OS/2 on Intel platforms I currently have my development system set up to boot OS/2 (where I live), Windows 95 and Windows NT. Will I need three separate licenses for Kermit 95, or one? Let me add my thanks to that of others. I've considered it a near miracle that you guys have been able to produce and support such quality products for so long (with help from the rest of the Kermit community). -- Bob Shair Open Systems Consultant 1018 W. Springfield Avenue rmshair@uiuc.edu Champaign, IL 61821 217/356-2684 < Not employed by or representing the University of Illinois > From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 15:43:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA02323 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA18820 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:43:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: 17 Jan 1997 20:43:40 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6420 In article <5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Bob Shair wrote: : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: : >I hope you'll feel the same way when we announce "Kermit 95 for OS/2" : >within (I hope) a few weeks. It's a big step up from OS/2 C-Kermit -- : >but, like Kermit 95 for other "operating systems" :-) it will not be : >free in the sense that OS/2 C-Kermit was. : : So in addition to : : Windows 95 on Intel platforms : Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 on Intel platforms : Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 on Power PC platforms : Windows NT 3.51 and 4.0 on DEC Alpha platforms : we'll be able to add : OS/2 on Intel platforms : And you would have been able to add: OS/2 on PowerPC platforms if IBM hadn't canceled the project. Or for that matter, Windows NT on MIPS platforms if the vendors hadn't canceled that one too. For the moment we are still supporting NT on PowerPC, but the future of NT/PowerPC looks pretty shaky too -- it's a mean world out there... : I currently have my development system set up to boot OS/2 : (where I live), Windows 95 and Windows NT. : : Will I need three separate licenses for Kermit 95, or one? : Most likely you will need not one, not three, but two, since a common executable runs on Windows 95 and NT, but not on OS/2. But nothing's definite yet. : Let me add my thanks to that of others. 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Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax Email: angie@tccs.net From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 17 21:06:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA22754 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id VAA04375 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:05:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!mordred.cc.jyu.fi!cyberspam!usenet Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc From: TheCopyCatShop@NA.net Subject: cmsg cancel <5bp4ks$5eb@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5bp4ks$5eb@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Approved: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Reply-To: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) X-Cancelled-by: otto@cc.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Followup-to: junk References: <5bp4ks$5eb@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:14:20 GMT X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1452656 Spam-cancel: "CD-R Media for Sale" From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 18 13:20:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA01811 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA06726 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:20:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.mindspring.com!madman.ronin.mindspring.com!news From: cmattern@mindspring.com (Chuck Mattern) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: 18 Jan 1997 15:38:39 GMT Organization: Ronin Microsystems Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5bqqpv$hkj@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb43m.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Server-Date: 18 Jan 1997 18:19:36 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.7 To: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6422 In article <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > First please come to: > > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ Went there, got that, built and installed it, same problem. Tried the suggestion from another post and defined NOCOTFMC. Same result: when I enter "set /line /dev/ttyS0" kermit gets the modem, I can see the status lights change but kermit hangs. Issuing ^C gets on with things and all seems fine. > Exactly > what commands did you give? If you are giving a SET LINE command without > giving a SET MODEM first, then the driver has not been told to open the > device in CLOCAL mode, and so might wait forever for carrier to appear. > In that case, use "set carrier-watch off" prior to "set line", or else > use "set modem type" prior to "set line" to let Linux know you will be > using a modem. I have tried "set carrier-watch off" alone and with "set modem type usrobotics" and still get the hang condition. HOWEVER here are some new wrinkles: This does not occur with my work machine which has a serial card. My machine at home has on board serial hardware built into the motherboard. BTW the machine at work does not require the "set modem type usrobotics" or set carrier-watch off". Additionally kermit does not hang at home if I use "set line /dev/cua0". Another possible difference is the kernel revision, home is 2.0.25 and work is 2.0.18, although I don't believe any changes to the serial i/o section occurred between these versions. I would happily use the cua? device were it not for the fact that I need to use mgetty which wants the ttyS device. > This is described very clearly, I hope, in the manual, > "Using C-Kermit". Sent the order for the new release in yesterday. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Chuck Mattern | "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.."| |cmattern@mindspring.com | -Friedrich Nietzsche- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 18 13:38:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA05905 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA07552 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:38:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!usenet From: Brian Downing Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: 18 Jan 1997 08:01:44 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.2.15/Emacs 19.30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6423 fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > if IBM hadn't canceled the project. Or for that matter, Windows NT on MIPS > platforms if the vendors hadn't canceled that one too. For the moment we > are still supporting NT on PowerPC, but the future of NT/PowerPC looks > pretty shaky too -- it's a mean world out there... I believe IBM announced they were dropping support for NT on PowerPC. I only wish Intel would follow suit! ;) -- [ Brian Downing ][ If there is a hell ] [ bsd@panix.com ][ its fires wait for them ] [ '97 ZX7R ][ not us. -FZ ] From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 12:51:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA14323 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA04204 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:51:16 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!cbgw1.lucent.com!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!cam-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news-in.ConnActivity.com!fcshome!fredex From: fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us (Fred Smith) Subject: mskermit w/Stallion multiport board X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Organization: None! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:13:33 GMT Lines: 27 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6424 I've just come into possession of a Stallion Easyconnect 8/32 eight- port adapter and need some help. First off, I'm not entirely sure I've got it configured right, or that it is even working (I'm having some difficulty with the drivers and config... I've got the drivers from Stallion's web site.) But it's complicated because I'm not sure if MS-KERMIT can even talk to the thing, and if so how, so it's hard to tell where my problem lies. It looks like it doesn't emulate "standard" pc hardware, so direct device access is probably out. But it offers several BIOS emulation options as well as FOSSIL support. I'm guessing that for Kermit I need to find a FOSSIL driver to use as a layer between kermit and the board. But if anyone has any experience with such things I'd appreciate a clue! BTW, I'm only interested in using one of the ports, at this time, in case that makes it any easier. Fred -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .---- Fred Smith / Office: fred@computrition.com ( /__ ,__. __ __ / __ : / 508-663-2524 / / / /__) / / /__) .+' Home: fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us / / (__ (___ (__(_ (___ / :__ 617-438-5471 -------------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 --------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 15:47:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA08197 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA13052 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:47:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.191.213.61!ott.istar!istar.net!n3ott.istar!news.quebectel.com!news From: Leon Cote Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: pc to xenix Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:02:46 -0500 Organization: GlobeTrotter Lines: 19 Message-ID: <32E27DE6.6027@quebectel.com> Reply-To: lcote@quebectel.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-22.f114.quebectel.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6425 Hi, I have a pc(Windows 95) connected to a xenix system with the COM1 port and a terminal emulator. I enter the xenix system as a ansi tty. What I want to do is to transfer binary files (over 2 megs) from the pc to the xenix system. I have been suggested to use kermit to do that. I would like to know if 1-) it is possible 2-) if a have to have a Windows 95 version of kermit in the pc and also a version of kermit for xenix in the xenix system. Any information would be appreciated. Leon. From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 18:36:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA02519 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id SAA21349 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:36:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsgate.nytimes.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!genesis.demon.co.uk!fred From: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk (Lawrence Kirby) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: SCO ANSI in MS-Kermit? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 22:27:05 GMT Organization: none Lines: 26 Message-ID: <853712825snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> References: <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms> <1997Jan7.110722.91256@cc.usu.edu> Reply-To: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-User: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: genesis.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6426 In article <1997Jan7.110722.91256@cc.usu.edu> jrd@cc.usu.edu "Joe Doupnik" writes: >In article <1997Jan6.131138.17911@wvnvms>, bl220056@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (Joseph G. > Woodrum) writes: >> Are there any plans to add SCO ANSI emulation to MS-Kermit 3.15? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joseph >> jwoodrum@bscvax.wvnet.edu >--------- > No. Why? Because SCO ANSI requires sending keyboard key make and >break codes. SCO does have scancode support but it only applies to the keyboard and aren't necessary for normal terminal use. You can telnet from a SCO console to another SCO system and screen handling works fine. Text mode console screen handling is done through ANSI-style escape sequences. -- ----------------------------------------- Lawrence Kirby | fred@genesis.demon.co.uk Wilts, England | 70734.126@compuserve.com ----------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 19:30:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA09493 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id TAA24048 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:30:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!205.152.0.23!news.atl.bellsouth.net!news.mco.bellsouth.net!news.cha.bellsouth.net!news.mia.bellsouth.net!usenet From: info@mailloop.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Mailloop: Top Rated Bulk Mailing Software Date: 19 Jan 1997 04:25:32 GMT Organization: Mailloop Software Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5bs7ns$1s9@news.mia.bellsouth.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d205-152-249-122.mia.bellsouth.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6427 Mailloop v2.0 is an industrial strength bulk mailer. Using it is easy: 1) Create a message (http://www.mailloop.com/editor.html) ....by using the pull down menus or ....by using any editor 2) Create a newsgroups list (http://www.mailloop.com/news3.html) ....by filtering an NNTP server or ....by importing from any text file or ....by manually creating with any editor or ....by extracting from any FTP file or ....by extracting from any HTTP file 3) Create an e-mail list (http://www.mailloop.com/em3.html) ....by extracting from newsgroups or ....by importing from any text file or ....by manually creating with any editor or ....by extracting from a WHOIS response or ....by extracting from a fingering response or ....by extracting from a UNIX response or ....by extracting from any FTP file or ....by extracting from any HTTP file or 4) Broadcast the message ....to the e-mail list or (http://www.mailloop.com/embc.html) ....to the newsgroup list (http://www.mailloop.com/ngbc.html) 5) Then process the remove requests ....by using the mailbox processor (http://www.mailloop.com/pop.html) For more info visit http://www.mailloop.com From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 21:06:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA22632 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 21:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id VAA28552 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 21:06:46 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit tcp/ip Message-ID: <1997Jan16.121252.92035@cc.usu.edu> Date: 16 Jan 97 12:12:52 MDT References: <5bgm01$bll@lynx.unm.edu> <5bgpki$l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5birb8$261@mirage.skypoint.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 28 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6428 In article <5birb8$261@mirage.skypoint.com>, escargo@skypoint.com (David S Cargo) writes: > I am using Kermit over TCP/IP and Ethernet. I was wondering if I could > improve the performance of transfer of binary files by allowing some > nonprinting ASCII characters to not be escaped. So, is there a simple > way of determining what characters will make it through a telnet session > without breaking anything? > > Alternatively, would using uuencode on the data before hand be more > efficient than having Kermit do its escape character method? -------------- You don't give enough information for us to provide a meaningful answer. For example, if your comms are via a modem then fewer bytes exchanged mean measurably less time. But if they are via high speed lines then other delays become dominate, such as your hard disks. UUencoding is very inefficient. Kermit protocol encoding is reasonable efficient and fast. The only rule about what are safe binary bytes is there is no rule. The end to end system is not just TCP/IP but also all the pieces of the local and remote operating systems and any relay points in between. Encoding for transparency over Telnet costs basically nothing these days, so don't worry about that part. If my own behavior is any guide, good or bad, then I use Kermit to Kermit communications almost out of the box style. Six window slots, 1-2KB Kermit packets. I do not touch unprefixing nor other adjustables. A modem is used only for testing purposes here. That works all the time, files move in reasonable times, I get back to real work quickly enough. I don't spend energy and personal time trying to squeeze another 10% performance increase because it is not a worthwhile tradeoff for me. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 22:04:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA00267 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA01239 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:04:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.service.emory.edu!hobbes.cc.uga.edu!not-for-mail From: cbertaut@arches.uga.edu (Christopher Bertaut) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MacKermit on USR Sportster 28.8 Date: 20 Jan 1997 01:35:01 GMT Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 46 Message-ID: <5bui45$ocq@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: arch7.cc.uga.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6429 I recently bought a Sportster modem new with the intention of using it on my Mac for email, etc. through my University account and also to allow my wife to have a 28.8 attached to her PC for use with her local ISP Internet account. I've gotten it to work perfectly on the PC, but have persistent difficulties with the Mac. I'm using a genuine hardware handshaking cable as defined in the US Robotics documentation. It checks out for proper continuity exactly where it should. It also accepts a test string that tests for the presence of hardware handshaking. But when I try to connect to the University's Kermit system, it will lock up - time after time. This happens most frequently when I attempt to scroll through a large email or do anything that causes lots of text to be quickly downloaded to the Mac. For reference, the Mac is a IIvx with 12 MB of RAM running System 7.1 with System Hardware update 2.0 installed. It's nice and stable when I connect the same modem cable to my older LineLink 144 (made by Promethius). I AM setting DIP switch 1 ON as recommended in the Quick Start Guide that came with the USR modem. When the modem locks it doesn't drop carrier, it just freezes on a particular screen and none of the usual Kermit commands cause the display to update or anything else. I have to quit the program, shut off the modem and try again. I'd really like to give the LineLink to my Dad, who's presently using a 2400 baud modem, and just use one modem for both machines. Has anyone else out there run into this problem? I've checked the USR website and haven't found anything that helped and I also checked all the Kermit FAQs that I could find. Thanks in advance, Chris Bertaut -- __&__ / \ | | | (o)(o) C ,---_) | |,___| "A torus is a surface generated by a circle rotated about | \__/ an axis in its plane that does not intersect the circle... /_____\ such that a doughnut shape is created.... mmm doughnut..." /_____/ \ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher Bertaut KE4LAC From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 19 22:06:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA00417 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA01457 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 22:06:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!unlisys!cs.tu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!berlin.snafu.de!spamcancel!cyberspam From: info@mailloop.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5bs7ns$1s9@news.mia.bellsouth.net> Control: cancel <5bs7ns$1s9@news.mia.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 03:46:38 +1 Organization: Mailloop Software Lines: 5 Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de Message-ID: References: <5bs7ns$1s9@news.mia.bellsouth.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantic.fb12.tu-berlin.de X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1490340 EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "mailloop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Mailloop: Top Rated Bulk Mailing Software. From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 20 10:06:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA29575 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA23010 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:06:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!delos.dra.hmg.gb!trog.dra.hmg.gb!not-for-mail From: Doug Pickering Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Macro PRODUCT in K95 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:45:08 +0000 Organization: DERA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <32E384F4.5904@zestsys.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: dougp@zestsys.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.80.23.71 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6430 Hi, I have been trying to convert some MSKermit installations to K95 and I came across a definition for a macro PRODUCT. This is mentioned in the updates doc for Kermit 3.13: 62. APC-MACRO and macro PRODUCT are the ways of invoking Kermit commands by the host sending information during Connect mode. Macros TERMINALR and TERMINALS are removed; ESC [ ? 34 h and ESC [ ? 34 l now govern only the direction of screen writing during Connect mode. This revision is to comply with DEC usage in the new VT400 terminal series. Does the macro have the same functionality in K95? Doug Pickering dougp@zestsys.demon.co.uk From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 20 10:57:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA07347 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA25442 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:57:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bconnex.net!news.abs.net!not-for-mail From: Webmaster Jim Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Looking for example scripts Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:57:11 GMT Organization: Planet Earth Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5c04kn$nh6$1@news.abs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp53.bcpl.lib.md.us Summary: Want to get some more example Kermit dialing scripts Keywords: Kermit script Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6431 I've read most of the C-Kermit 2nd Edition book and gotten motivated to automate some tasks. I'd like to get a script that dials my local library and logs in as guest so I can use the Lynx browser to check on book availability. There are some scripts in the book but more would help. I'll make them available on the web once I get them functional. -- http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~jspath/homeslice.html :: http://www.NetBSD.Org From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 20 12:34:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA24594 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA29883 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:34:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!warwick!bham!B.A.McCauley From: B.A.McCauley@bham.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: pc to xenix Date: 20 Jan 1997 16:37:15 GMT Organization: The University of Birmingham, UK. Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <32E27DE6.6027@quebectel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wcl-l.bham.ac.uk To: lcote@quebectel.com In-reply-to: Leon Cote's message of Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:02:46 -0500 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6432 In article <32E27DE6.6027@quebectel.com> Leon Cote writes: > I have a pc(Windows 95) connected to a xenix system with the COM1 port >and a terminal emulator. I enter the xenix system as a ansi tty. > > What I want to do is to transfer binary files (over 2 megs) from the pc >to the xenix system. > > I have been suggested to use kermit to do that. Sound reasonable > I would like to know if > 1-) it is possible Yes. > 2-) if a have to have a Windows 95 version of kermit >in the pc and also a version of kermit for xenix in >the > xenix system. Yes you need Kermit on both boxes, but you can run the DOS version of kermit (mskermit) under Windows 95. -- \\ ( ) No Bullshit! | Email: B.A.McCauley@bham.ac.uk . _\\__[oo from | Phones: +44 121 471 3789 (home) .__/ \\ /\@ /~) /~[ /\/[ | +44 121 627 2173 (voice) 2175 (fax) . l___\\ /~~) /~~[ / [ | PGP-fp: D7 03 2A 4B D8 3A 05 37... # ll l\\ ~~~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ | http://wcl-l.bham.ac.uk/~bam/ ###LL LL\\ (Brian McCauley) | Finger: bam@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 20 13:41:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA07018 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id NAA03244 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:41:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: 20 Jan 1997 18:41:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 65 Message-ID: <5c0e81$qvq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5bqqpv$hkj@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6433 In article <5bqqpv$hkj@madman.ronin.mindspring.com>, Chuck Mattern wrote about C-Kermit on Linux: : In article <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: : : > First please come to: : > : > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ : : Went there, got that, built and installed it, same problem. Tried the : suggestion from another post and defined NOCOTFMC. Same result: when : I enter "set /line /dev/ttyS0" kermit gets the modem, I can see the : status lights change but kermit hangs. Issuing ^C gets on with things : and all seems fine. : ... : I have tried "set carrier-watch off" alone and with "set modem type : usrobotics" and still get the hang condition. HOWEVER here are some : new wrinkles: This does not occur with my work machine which has a : serial card. My machine at home has on board serial hardware built : into the motherboard. BTW the machine at work does not require the : "set modem type usrobotics" or set carrier-watch off". Additionally : kermit does not hang at home if I use "set line /dev/cua0". Another : possible difference is the kernel revision, home is 2.0.25 and work is : 2.0.18, although I don't believe any changes to the serial i/o section : occurred between these versions. I would happily use the cua? device : were it not for the fact that I need to use mgetty which wants the : ttyS device. : Clearly, C-Kermit is stuck in a system call. You can demonstrate this by opening up two windows. In the first window, tell C-Kermit to: set debug on set modem type usr set line /dev/ttyS0 In the second window: tail -f debug.log You'll probably see something like: ttopen alarm=0 (which goes into the debug log just before the open() call) and it will just sit there till you type Ctrl-C, or maybe until the alarm goes off -- you can set an alarm for SET LINE like this: set carrier-watch on 20 This is supposed to make C-Kermit time out after 20 seconds if the open() call is not returning due to carrier not being present on the device. In any case, from your description the open() call is not returning, even though it has succeeded in opening the device. Evidently it can be interrupted by SIGINT, after which we find the device is open and perfectly usable. What can I say, this is either a bug in your version of Linux (or your driver for ttyS0), or else there is some peculiarity in setting up this device that I don't know about, and that will need to be addressed in the source code communications module, ckutio.c. You or some other Linux expert will have to take a look, because none of this can be reproduced here (Red Hat 3.0, kernel 1.2.13). - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 21 02:24:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA22436 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id CAA07116 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:24:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: Mitko Stoyanov Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Logging sessions with C-kermit (linux) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:45:14 +1100 (EST) Lines: 15 Message-ID: X-Mail2News-User: mstoyan@airmoon.epa.nsw.gov.au X-Mail2News-Path: fire.epa.nsw.gov.au!airmoon.epa.nsw.gov.au!neptune.epa.nsw.gov.au X-Sender: mstoyan@neptune.epa.nsw.gov.au MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6434 Hi! Can sombebody tell me if it's possible to log a session in a file, without issuing CONNECT command in C Kermit (Linux)? I am doing it with the MS-DOS Kermit, but the same stuff seems not to work under Unix. I use Kermit to "output" commands to a RS-232 enabled device. and to log the responses in a file. The script seems to work and log the session when I use it interactively (with CONNECT). Thanks in advance. From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 21 10:23:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA26144 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA18733 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:23:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!not-for-mail From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Logging sessions with C-kermit (linux) Date: 21 Jan 1997 10:23:27 -0500 Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5c2n1f$pg1@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6435 In article , Mitko Stoyanov wrote: : Can sombebody tell me if it's possible to log a session in a file, without : issuing CONNECT command in C Kermit (Linux)? I am doing it with the MS-DOS : Kermit, but the same stuff seems not to work under Unix. I use Kermit to : "output" commands to a RS-232 enabled device. and to log the responses in : a file. The script seems to work and log the session when I use it : interactively (with CONNECT). : It works fine in C-Kermit. The session log records all the characters handled by the INPUT command, as well as those sent by OUTPUT if the connection is half duplex. Maybe you looked at the session log file before it was closed? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 21 17:19:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA26039 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id RAA09543 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:19:21 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!newsserver.cilea.it!sirio.cineca.it!qualcuno.nettuno.it!usenet From: l.biasotto@tinet.it (Luca Biasotto) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Serial communication Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:06:25 GMT Organization: NETTuno Lines: 21 Message-ID: <32e53d50.2654345@news.nettuno.it> Reply-To: l.biasotto@tinet.it NNTP-Posting-Host: ode013k1.oderzo.nettuno.it X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6436 The company I work for has just bought a simple 3-axes machine, used for screwing and for dispensing glue and solder pastes. The programs are kept in a PCMCIA that contains all the software. In order to solve the problem of memory limitations, I wish to save the programs in a PC to be connected to the RS-232 the machine is equipped with. The manual reports instructions about this operation, but it refers to an optional (and expensive) memory kit made of another memory card, a serial cable and the "software" (just plain DOS batch files, e.g. "copy com1: ..." and so on). As I am totally new to serial communications, I would like to know if the back up is possible also without this "kit", for example using Kermit or Windows Terminal. In this case, what commands should I give to access the various programs in the memory card? I will appreciate very much anybody's help. Thanks. ---------------------------- Luca Biasotto mailto : l.biasotto@tinet.it ---------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 21 17:37:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA00790 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id RAA10416 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:37:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Serial communication Date: 21 Jan 1997 22:37:35 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5c3gff$qm5$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32e53d50.2654345@news.nettuno.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6437 In article <32e53d50.2654345@news.nettuno.it>, Luca Biasotto wrote: : The company I work for has just bought a simple 3-axes machine, used : for screwing and for dispensing glue and solder pastes. The programs are : kept in a PCMCIA that contains all the software. In order to solve the : problem of memory limitations, I wish to save the programs in a PC to be : connected to the RS-232 the machine is equipped with. : : The manual reports instructions about this operation, but it refers to : an optional (and expensive) memory kit made of another memory card, a serial : cable and the "software" (just plain DOS batch files, e.g. "copy com1: ..." : and so on). : : As I am totally new to serial communications, I would like to know if : the back up is possible also without this "kit", for example using Kermit or : Windows Terminal. In this case, what commands should I give to access the : various programs in the memory card? : You need some way of forcing the device to "dump" its programs to the COM port. I suspect they give you no way to do this unless you buy the extra stuff. In any case, if you can make the device dump its programs, you can capture them with Kermit's LOG SESSION command. The trick is knowing "when to stop"; that is, when to close the log. Of course the opposite problem is: what do you do with these captured programs once you have them on the PC? If you want to load them back into your robot device, then the device must (again) be running some kind of program to read the bytes into the appropriate area of its memory, and then to jump to that location. You can use Kermit's TRANSMIT command to send the program, but you still have the problem of how to let the device know when the transmission is finished. And of course you also have the problem that LOG SESSION and TRANSMIT are not error-detecting and -correcting file transfer methods, and so corruption of the data is a real possibility. It would be better if the device vendor implemented a protocol like Kermit for dumping and loading the programs. Without an error-correcting protocol, I think you will have a lot of problems. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 21 19:49:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA26780 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id TAA16937 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:49:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!192.220.251.22!netnews.nwnet.net!news.u.washington.edu!u.washington.edu!apardoe From: "Andrew J. Pardoe" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:42:31 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu><5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu><5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu><5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: neko.dental.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: X-X-Sender: apardoe@mailer5.u.washington.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6438 Let me publicly chime in and thank Frank and Jeff for saving my sanity and improving my efficiency drastically with OS/2 Kermit! Andrew Pardoe On 18 Jan 1997, Brian Downing wrote: > I believe IBM announced they were dropping support for NT on PowerPC. Effective immediately (1/21/97), IBM is withdrawing Windows NT 4.0 (PowerPC Edition) from marketing and will not ship the product as originally announced in Software Announcement 296-454, dated November 19, 1996. Straight from IBM's announcement server. Is this the death of NT? From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 02:11:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id CAA29114 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 02:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id CAA04066 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 02:11:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!madman.ronin.mindspring.com!news From: cmattern@mindspring.com (Chuck Mattern) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit hangs on set line ... Date: 22 Jan 1997 04:25:17 GMT Organization: Ronin Microsystems Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5c44rd$kd@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> References: <5bas0d$oul@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5bbbgj$9v0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5bqqpv$hkj@madman.ronin.mindspring.com> <5c0e81$qvq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb3t6.dialup.mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Server-Date: 22 Jan 1997 06:38:55 GMT X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6439 In article <5c0e81$qvq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: >: I have tried "set carrier-watch off" alone and with "set modem type >: usrobotics" and still get the hang condition. HOWEVER here are some >: new wrinkles: This does not occur with my work machine which has a >: serial card. My machine at home has on board serial hardware built >: into the motherboard. BTW the machine at work does not require the >: "set modem type usrobotics" or set carrier-watch off". Additionally >: kermit does not hang at home if I use "set line /dev/cua0". Another >: possible difference is the kernel revision, home is 2.0.25 and work is >: 2.0.18, although I don't believe any changes to the serial i/o section >: occurred between these versions. I would happily use the cua? device >: were it not for the fact that I need to use mgetty which wants the >: ttyS device. >: > Clearly, C-Kermit is stuck in a system call. > What can I say, this is either a bug in your version of Linux (or your driver > for ttyS0), or else there is some peculiarity in setting up this device that > I don't know about, and that will need to be addressed in the source code > communications module, ckutio.c. You or some other Linux expert will have to > take a look, because none of this can be reproduced here (Red Hat 3.0, > kernel 1.2.13). Looks like this is resolved. I did some checking in my logs and noted that mgetty started having trouble too. This roughly coincided with my installation of a radio card in this PC. Although the radio card, in theory, does not conflict with ttyS0 moving its memory address from 0x30 to 0x20 has allowed mgetty to return to normal and kermit to function correctly. There is a lot of interaction going on here though. Here are some of my findings for the truly gifted to sort through: Running with kernel 1.2.13, no problems with all hardware installed and radio card jumpered for 0x30. Running with 2.0.20 and 2.0.25 if booted to single user mode kermit runs fine but once taken to multiuser the hanging behavior begins. This appears to be related to diald and chat having used to modem at boot time to check with my ISP's nameserver. Stranger still is that chat and diald seem to be unaffected by the radio card. They reliably connect to my ISP on a consistent basis regardless of the radio card. Running with 2.0.25 and with the radio card either removed or jumpered for 0x20 works fine. Sheesh! Anyway thanks to all, especially Frank, for talking through it with me! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Chuck Mattern | "That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.."| |cmattern@mindspring.com | -Friedrich Nietzsche- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 06:07:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id GAA01050 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id GAA20011 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:07:43 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.ececs.uc.edu!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Script question X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Jan16.194932.27641@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:49:32 GMT Lines: 31 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6440 To interface with my Los Angeles FreeNet (LAFN) account, using their menuing system, I've written a set MS-DOS Kermit Scripts to emulate the presence of a Kermit server at the other end my connection with the Freenet BBS/eMail account. Part of the purpose is to provide a command line interface, opposed to the normal menu interface they provide, and also to provide a mechanism for writing scripts to interface with LAFN that will be portable across operating systems I might use. (LAFN has decided they will no longer make changes to the BBS side of their operation). I have to uniformly prefix the names of most of the scripts with an arbitrarily chosen character (I've chosen 'f' for FreeNet), to distinguish them from the already existing Kermit commands. For examples, fremote, fsend, fget, fmail, instead of remote, send, get, mail etc. My question is, is there any way to get these scripts to override the normal Kermit commands, so there would no longer be any need to use the prefixing character? While still under developement, I'm past the main hump on this project, and would be glad to show these to any one interested, either for their own use, or to critique them. TIA & Regards, Dallas E. Legan legan@acm.org aw585@lafn.org (310) 862 - 4854 ext. '*' From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 06:28:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id GAA29600 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id GAA04440 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:28:20 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!howland.erols.net!EU.net!sun4nl!dataweb.net!Leiden.NL.net!ns.acdis.nl!usenet From: "Luc A.M. Meijer" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Question: Overwrite existing files Date: 22 Jan 1997 08:25:10 GMT Organization: acdis Lines: 12 Message-ID: <01bc083d$827898a0$0c15a8c0@lm.acdis.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.21.12 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6441 To everybody on the Net, I am trying to communicate from a SCO-UNIX machine via Kermit to a PC. On this PC is installed PROCOMM 3.0 software. I have the standard Host-script running on the pc and run a script on my SCO-system. Question: How can I configure PROCOMM or the script on the SCO-UNIX machine so that a existing file can be overwritten? Thnx a lot in advance. Luc Meijer From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 08:58:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA06599 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA11430 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:58:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!psinntp!howland.erols.net!EU.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.244.176.52!news.iij.ad.jp!news.itjit.ad.jp!news.ipro.ad.jp!netlaputa.or.jp!news0.netlaputa.or.jp!spinnews!tokio!dtinews!news.dtinet.or.jp!not-for-mail From: Jim Tittsler Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95Cinit: Unable to Set CommStat Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:35:33 +0900 Organization: 7J1AJH/AI8A Tokyo Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32E57CF5.49B0@shrine.cyber.ad.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp55.tokyo.dtinet.or.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6442 The K95Cinit does initialize my Plug-and-Play PhoneBlaster, but it leaves a box on the screen complaining "Unable to SetCommStat" which takes a mouse click to close making it unpleasant to use at startup time. Is there a command line switch to avoid this dialog box? From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 09:53:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA17630 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id JAA14245 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:53:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script question Date: 22 Jan 1997 14:52:59 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5c59kb$gcp$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997Jan16.194932.27641@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6443 In article <1997Jan16.194932.27641@lafn.org>, Dallas Legan wrote: : ... : My question is, is there any way to get these scripts to override the : normal Kermit commands, so there would no longer be any need to use : the prefixing character? : If you give a macro the same name as a built-in command, you have to use the "do" command to invoke it, e.g.: define send blah blah blah ... do send foo.bar - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 09:53:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA17822 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id JAA14265 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:53:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95Cinit: Unable to Set CommStat Date: 22 Jan 1997 14:53:55 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5c59m3$gdi$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32E57CF5.49B0@shrine.cyber.ad.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6444 In article <32E57CF5.49B0@shrine.cyber.ad.jp>, Jim Tittsler wrote: : The K95Cinit does initialize my Plug-and-Play PhoneBlaster, : but it leaves a box on the screen complaining "Unable to : SetCommStat" which takes a mouse click to close making it : unpleasant to use at startup time. Is there a command : line switch to avoid this dialog box? : We will issue a replacement for K95CINIT shortly which runs silently and does not report errors or require mouse clicks. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 10:01:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA19486 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA14620 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:01:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!sol.caps.maine.edu!news From: desilets@maine.maine.edu (David Desilets) Newsgroups: alt.winsock.trumpet,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Docs for DIGITAN "DSS144FVM"? (HELP!!) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:47:29 GMT Organization: Throw 'em away 'till the "FINAL NOTICE" arrives! Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5c5986$1r16@sol.caps.maine.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: async15.tservpi1.caps.maine.edu X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu alt.winsock.trumpet:20980 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6445 Recently bought a used Digitan 14.4 Fax/Data modem. Modem has a single bank of 8 DIP switches--no jumpers. Have no documentation, and current setting is incompatible with my system's configuration. Anyone have documentation for this model? Model #: Digitan DSS144FVM Anyone know their URL or e-mail? Please e-mail replies; thanks in advance. DD +-------------------------------------------------+ | David D Desilets | | | | "Guilty Until Proven Affluent" | | | | e-mail: desilets@maine.REMOVE_THIS.maine.edu | +-------------------------------------------------+ From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 17:50:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10487 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07672 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:50:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit 95 1.1.10 for Alpha/NT and other news Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:50:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 101 Message-ID: <5c65k9$g8m$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6446 Our Alpha is fixed and the upgrade patch for Kermit 95 1.1.10 is now available for Alpha NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95patch.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/k95/patches/wa11{7,8,9}-10.exe Meanwhile, since version 1.1.10 was released, the inevitable handful of bugs has appeared -- some old but never noticed before, a couple new. Briefly summarized, they are: . Unwanted alert box from K95CINIT . Problems when switching from VT to ANSI terminal type . Using SCOANSI emulation with SCO hosts . Environment variables are not case sensitive . Data loss in dialup host mode . Problems with automatic login from certain Dialer entries . Problems with arrow keys and command recall in certain emulations . Misleading Dialer error message about screen dimensions . How to disable scrollback . Wildcard sends don't work right in XYZMODEM . Changes in the operation of the numeric keypad . DEC NRCs are forgotten in Multinational Mode These are described and, in most cases, workarounds are given, in the newbugs.doc file in kermit/k95 on kermit.columbia.edu: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/k95/newbugs.doc You can also visit this file in your Web browser: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95news.html Some of these items are not actually bugs, but changes (improvments) in behavior. But they have evidently caused a lot of confusion. The descriptions of two most confusing ones are reproduced below: 253. Using SCOANSI emulation with SCO hosts There is a type of terminal emulation commonly called ANSI, which is used by BBS's. It is very simple -- essentially nothing more than what you get with ANSI.SYS on a PC. Then there is the highly evolved and complex version of it used on the SCO (and Linux) console. Kermit 95 supports both; the first emulation is called ANSI; the second is called SCOANSI. However, the *name* SCOANSI is unknown on SCO systems. They call it just ANSI. So if a Telnet client such as Kermit 95 comes in announcing its terminal type as SCOANSI, the SCO host doesn't recognize it. In Kermit 95 1.1.8 and later, the Telnet terminal-type negotiation feature will cause Kermit 95 to change to another terminal type, most likely "plain old" ANSI. To work around this problem in Kermit 95: set terminal type scoansi set telnet terminal-type ansi set terminal character-set transparent Or on the SCO system: Copy the /usr/lib/terminfo/terminfo.src entry for ansi to an scoansi.src file, changing "ansi" to "scoansi" in that file, and then run tic on it. In /etc/termcap, make a copy of the "ansi" entry, but call it scoansi. There is presently no entry for "telnet terminal type" in the Dialer. This will probably be added in a future release. 261. Changes in the operation of the numeric keypad (K) In VT220 and VT320 emulation, the PC's numeric keypad is mapped by default to the VT terminal's numeric keypad. Prior to version 1.1.10, however, this was not true for VT100 and VT102. But the numeric keypad functions are just as important in VT100/102 emulation as they are in VT220/320, and a lot of users of VT100/102 emulation complained that the numeric keypad didn't work right. So in version 1.1.10, the VT100/102 numeric keypad was mapped the same as the VT220/320 numeric keypad. However, this change (like all changes) surprised other people who had become accustomed to the previous VT100/102 mapping, which was the same as the mapping for the editing and arrow keys with the same labels. If you want to restore the previous mapping, add the following to your K95CUSTOM.INI file: SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \290 \Kdnscn SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \291 \Kendscn SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \292 \Khomscn SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \293 \Klfarr SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \294 \Kuparr SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \295 \Krtarr SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \296 \Kdnarr SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \302 \{127} SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \400 \Kignore SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \2411 {-} SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \4143 / SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \4365 \{13} SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \4463 / SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \4496 \Kignore SET TERMINAL KEY VT100 \4543 / Replace VT100 with VT102 or other terminal type that you want to have these definitions on the numeric keypad. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 20:10:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06707 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14352 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:10:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Script question Message-ID: <1997Jan22.124547.92441@cc.usu.edu> Date: 22 Jan 97 12:45:47 MDT References: <1997Jan16.194932.27641@lafn.org> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 35 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6447 In article <1997Jan16.194932.27641@lafn.org>, aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: > To interface with my Los Angeles FreeNet (LAFN) account, > using their menuing system, I've written a set MS-DOS Kermit > Scripts to emulate the presence of a Kermit > server at the other end my connection with the Freenet BBS/eMail > account. Part of the purpose is to provide a command line > interface, opposed to the normal menu interface they provide, > and also to provide a mechanism for writing scripts to interface > with LAFN that will be portable across operating systems I might use. > (LAFN has decided they will no longer make changes to the BBS side of > their operation). > > I have to uniformly prefix the names of most of the scripts with an > arbitrarily chosen character (I've chosen 'f' for FreeNet), to > distinguish them from the already existing Kermit commands. > For examples, fremote, fsend, fget, fmail, instead of remote, send, get, > mail etc. > > My question is, is there any way to get these scripts to override the > normal Kermit commands, so there would no longer be any need to use > the prefixing character? No, there isn't. The internal commands are always present and cannot be removed nor overwritten by macros of the same name. Joe D. > While still under developement, I'm past the main hump on this project, > and would be glad to show these to any one interested, either for their > own use, or to critique them. > > TIA & Regards, > Dallas E. Legan > legan@acm.org > aw585@lafn.org > (310) 862 - 4854 ext. '*' From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 22 20:10:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06727 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14356 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:10:21 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Question: Overwrite existing files Message-ID: <1997Jan22.124750.92442@cc.usu.edu> Date: 22 Jan 97 12:47:50 MDT References: <01bc083d$827898a0$0c15a8c0@lm.acdis.nl> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6448 In article <01bc083d$827898a0$0c15a8c0@lm.acdis.nl>, "Luc A.M. Meijer" writes: > To everybody on the Net, > > I am trying to communicate from a SCO-UNIX machine via Kermit to a PC. On > this PC is installed PROCOMM 3.0 software. > I have the standard Host-script running on the pc and run a script on my > SCO-system. > Question: How can I configure PROCOMM or the script on the SCO-UNIX machine > so that a existing file can be overwritten? -------- Perhaps someone else on the list can help with this question. The Kermit Project folks don't provide support for the third party commercial products. But we do suggest running Columbia Kermits at both ends, and acquiring the user's manuals for them too. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 23 17:14:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17517 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03325 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:14:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-15.sprintlink.net!news.rain.net!pacifier!mikef From: mikef@pacifier.com (Mike Freeman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Ms-Kermit and "REGET" Date: 23 Jan 1997 22:04:17 GMT Organization: Pacifier Online Data Service Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5c8n91$70n@news.pacifier.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pacifier.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6449 Are there plans to incorporate the "REGET" verb in Ms-Kermit c.15? I'm using Ms-Kermit 3.15 Beta 13 and REGET apparently hasn't been implemented. Mike Freeman Internet: mikef@pacifier.com -- Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ /* PGP Public Key available by "fingering" my account */ .. Virtue is itsown punishment. From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 23 21:23:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29442 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15451 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:23:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.serv.net!usenet From: Bones Newsgroups: alt.winsock.trumpet,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Docs for DIGITAN "DSS144FVM"? (HELP!!) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:51:26 -0800 Organization: ServNet Internet Services Lines: 47 Message-ID: <32E814CE.3098@serv.net> References: <5c5986$1r16@sol.caps.maine.edu> Reply-To: bones@serv.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup327.serv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) To: David Desilets Xref: news.columbia.edu alt.winsock.trumpet:21004 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6450 David Desilets wrote: > > Recently bought a used Digitan 14.4 Fax/Data modem. Modem has a > single bank of 8 DIP switches--no jumpers. Have no > documentation, and current setting is incompatible with my > system's configuration. Anyone have documentation for this > model? > > Model #: Digitan DSS144FVM > > Anyone know their URL or e-mail? > Please e-mail replies; thanks in advance. > DD > > +-------------------------------------------------+ > | David D Desilets | > | | > | "Guilty Until Proven Affluent" | > | | > | e-mail: desilets@maine.REMOVE_THIS.maine.edu | > +-------------------------------------------------+ Dave, I just removed a working DSS144FVM modem out of my computer and still have it and the documentation. This is how the dip switches were set. UP = off. DN = on 1-up Com port setting 2-dn Com port setting (these two setup com port setting COM 2) The rest are for irq settings 3-up irq2 off 4-dn irq3 on 5-up irq4 off 6-up irq5 off 7-up irq6 off 8-up irq7 off Table from book: COM PORT SETTINGS | IRQ SETTINGS Switch 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 COM 1 on on off off on off off off COM 2 off on off on off off off off COM 3 on off off off on off off off COM 4 off off off on off off off off Hope this helps you. From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 05:31:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14444 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA06864 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:31:01 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!sol.caps.maine.edu!news From: desilets@maine.maine.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5c5986$1r16@sol.caps.maine.edu> Control: cancel <5c5986$1r16@sol.caps.maine.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:23:55 GMT Organization: "Throw 'em away 'till the FINAL NOTICE arrives" Lines: 2 Message-ID: <5ca2hk$1vtg@sol.caps.maine.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: async15.tservpi1.caps.maine.edu X-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1566329 From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 13:10:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10772 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18041 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:10:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!corn.cso.niu.edu!niuhep.physics.niu.edu!SYSTEM From: system@niuhep.physics.niu.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: How is K95 doing? Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:06:58 GMT Organization: N.Ill.U. Physics Dept. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> Reply-To: system@physics.niu.edu.nospam NNTP-Posting-Host: niuhep.physics.niu.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6451 I hope that this info is fairly easily available 'cause my need isn't exactly earth shattering, to make a long story short, there is a "discussion" about the demand for telnet for Win 95. One (very coarse) measure of this would be how many copies of Kermit95 have shipped. Is there any feel for how much of the demand for K95 is for file transfer only, how much includes significant use of the terminal emulator for telnet? TIA Robert specify the e-mail address below, my reply-to: has anti-spam added to it Morphis@physics.niu.edu Real Men change diapers From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 13:39:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17762 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19523 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:39:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:39:33 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6452 In article <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu>, wrote: : I hope that this info is fairly easily available 'cause my need : isn't exactly earth shattering, to make a long story short, there : is a "discussion" about the demand for telnet for Win 95. : : One (very coarse) measure of this would be how many copies of Kermit95 : have shipped. : We're not going to give out specific figures, but it's doing quite well. The primary factors for making a decision are price and performance, plus the reputation and longevity of the vendor (The Kermit Project goes back to 1981; Columbia University was incorporated in 1754 :-), especially as regards support and competence. Or you can sample opinions of current licensees -- anyone who would care to post here on this subject, don't be shy. : Is there any feel for how much of the demand for K95 is for file transfer : only, how much includes significant use of the terminal emulator : for telnet? : The terminal emulator is used very heavily, and in the most demanding applications -- we know this because we do the tech support and we add features and emulations in response to user demands. File transfer is used heavily too, of course, as is scripting, but I'd estimate the vast majority of users' time is spent in the emulator. Of course K95 users are welcome to speak of their own experiences. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 16:42:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26345 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28795 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:42:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!EU.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!defsdoor.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: andy@defsdoor.demon.co.uk (Andrew Porter) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Question: Overwrite existing files Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:32:30 GMT Lines: 26 Message-ID: <854137971.29895.0@defsdoor.demon.co.uk> References: <01bc083d$827898a0$0c15a8c0@lm.acdis.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: defsdoor.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: defsdoor.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6453 On 22 Jan 1997 08:25:10 GMT, "Luc A.M. Meijer" wrote: >I am trying to communicate from a SCO-UNIX machine via Kermit to a PC. On >this PC is installed PROCOMM 3.0 software. >I have the standard Host-script running on the pc and run a script on my >SCO-system. >Question: How can I configure PROCOMM or the script on the SCO-UNIX machine >so that a existing file can be overwritten? > Well - this being a kermit newsgroup - you may not get many Procomm experts answering this question. However I would like to know why you use Procomm on your PC at all. The most impressive of all the Kermits - and this is not meant to understate how brilliant C-Kermit is - is MS-Kermit. Get it - buy the book - use it - love it - see the movie. To attempt to answer your question without knowing Procomm at all I would suggest trying remote set file collision overwrite on the Unix end, and see what happens. I would be surprised if it worked though :) From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 17:25:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05617 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00916 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:25:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao!CS.Arizona.EDU!news.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: packrat!dsew@columbia.edu (David Sewell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: 24 Jan 1997 15:23:50 GMT Organization: Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5cak66$iog@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: packrat.aml.arizona.edu NNTP-Posting-User: dsew X-Newsposter: Pnews 4.0-test52 (20 Jan 97) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6454 In article <5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: >: I currently have my development system set up to boot OS/2 >: (where I live), Windows 95 and Windows NT. >: >: Will I need three separate licenses for Kermit 95, or one? >: >Most likely you will need not one, not three, but two, since a common >executable runs on Windows 95 and NT, but not on OS/2. But nothing's >definite yet. I would hope that for e.g. academic site licenses, the site license would cover all versions of Kermit 95--otherwise non-Wintel people are effectively going to be shut out from that option. (I can't quite see the U of Arizona spending several thousand $ for a license to run OS/2 Kermit 95 alone, even if I asked nicely...!) -- David Sewell * dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu | "Night-walkers, wizards, Dep't of Geosciences, University of Arizona | bacchanals, revellers, http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/ | sharers in the mysteries." | --Heraclitus From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 19:05:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25394 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05752 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:05:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!ames!taligent!uunet!in3.uu.net!129.35.248.10!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: tvweaver@austin.ibm.com (Tom Weaver) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: What kind of modem should I tell K-95 I have? Date: 24 Jan 1997 23:19:53 GMT Organization: IBM, Austin, Tx. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Reply-To: tvweaver@austin.ibm.com NNTP-Posting-Host: arkham.austin.ibm.com X-Newsposter: Pnews 4.0-test52 (20 Jan 97) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6455 I'm trying to configure K95 1.1.9 for my system, an IBM Power Series 850 laptop running Windows NT Workstation 4.0. Windows, under "modem properties", says that its "28.8 V.34 PCMCIA Modem". Under "PC Card", it says, "PCMCIA 28.8/14.4 Data/Fax Modem". None of the options in the K95 setup looked like this, so I tried "Hayes 2400". However, I've clearly got some more configuration to get right: while Kermit will dial out and connect, and, apparently, pass output correctly to the remote end (vt102 emulation), input from the remote end is blocked strangely: each time I hit enter, another 10-20 characters print - though the "enter" is sent to the remote end, which soon gets confused. (So do I :-) Any thoughts on how I should configure this? -- Tom Weaver (512) 838 8277 TVWEAVER at AUSTIN tvweaver@austin.ibm.com From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 19:34:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01325 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07051 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:34:52 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: What kind of modem should I tell K-95 I have? Date: 25 Jan 1997 00:34:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 75 Message-ID: <5cbkf8$m14$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6456 In article <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>, Tom Weaver wrote: : I'm trying to configure K95 1.1.9 for my system, an IBM Power Series 850 : laptop running Windows NT Workstation 4.0. Windows, under "modem : properties", says that its "28.8 V.34 PCMCIA Modem". Under "PC Card", it : says, "PCMCIA 28.8/14.4 Data/Fax Modem". : Swell. So you got one of those no-name, no-documentation modems? : None of the options in the K95 setup looked like this, so I tried "Hayes : 2400". However, I've clearly got some more configuration to get right: while : Kermit will dial out and connect, and, apparently, pass output correctly to : the remote end (vt102 emulation), input from the remote end is blocked : strangely: each time I hit enter, another 10-20 characters print - though the : "enter" is sent to the remote end, which soon gets confused. (So do I :-) : : Any thoughts on how I should configure this? : The Hayes 2400 does not have hardware flow control, but your modem probably does. Unfortunately, we have no idea what its commands are, so we don't know how to control its features. Some modems are set up to use high speeds, hardware flow control, error correction, data compression, and speed buffering by default -- or at least this is their factory configuration. Who knows what your other software has done to the modem or what state it was left in. You might try something like this: set modem type user-defined set modem name noname-v34 set modem maximum-speed 57600 set modem capabilities AT SB EC DC HWFC set modem command init-string AT&F\13 set modem dial-command atd%s\13 set modem command autoanswer on ats0=0\13 set modem command autoanswer off ats0=1\13 set modem command error-correction on {} set modem command error-correction off {} set modem command compression on {} set modem command compression off {} set modem command hangup-command ath0\13 set modem command hardware-flow {} set modem command software-flow {} set modem command no-flow-control {} set modem command tone att\13 set modem command pulse atp\13 Put these commands in your K95CUSTOM.INI file and see if they work. Then: set port com1 ; or whatever set speed 57600 set modem speed-matching off set flow rts/cts set dial display on Then DIAL and watch what happens. Notes: 1. AT&F is the pseudo-semi-standard way to reset a "modern" modem's factory defaults. 2. SET MODEM COMMAND blah {} sets the modem's command string for "blah" to be nothing, the empty string, and therefore should cause Kermit not to send any command at all for "blah" or expect a response. Once you get this working, then it's relatively simple to automate it in the Dialer, etc. If you need more help, send email to: kermit-support@columbia.edu - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 24 20:06:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05631 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08520 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:06:01 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: What kind of modem should I tell K-95 I have? Date: 25 Jan 1997 01:05:58 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5cbm9m$o22$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6457 In article <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>, Tom Weaver wrote: : I'm trying to configure K95 1.1.9 for my system, an IBM Power Series 850 : laptop running Windows NT Workstation 4.0. Windows, under "modem properties", : says that its "28.8 V.34 PCMCIA Modem". Under "PC Card", it says, "PCMCIA : 28.8/14.4 Data/Fax Modem". Turn off your laptop, and pull out the modem card and look at the brand name and model. That will give you more information to work with. The labels used as modem types by Microsoft often have little association to the particular brand. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 25 03:22:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10315 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA27594 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:22:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux2.cso.uiuc.edu!shair From: rmshair@uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Some thanks aimed at Frank & the Kermit Project Date: 25 Jan 1997 08:10:13 GMT Organization: Bob Shair Consulting Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5ccf55$oic@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5boct4$1suu@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <5bogb5$qeq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5boms4$5dv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5cak66$iog@news.ccit.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Originator: shair@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6458 dsew@packrat.UUCP (David Sewell) writes: >In article <5boo9s$5kq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, >Frank da Cruz wrote: > >>: I currently have my development system set up to boot OS/2 >>: (where I live), Windows 95 and Windows NT. >>: >>: Will I need three separate licenses for Kermit 95, or one? >>: >>Most likely you will need not one, not three, but two, since a common >>executable runs on Windows 95 and NT, but not on OS/2. But nothing's >>definite yet. > >I would hope that for e.g. academic site licenses, the site license >would cover all versions of Kermit 95--otherwise non-Wintel people >are effectively going to be shut out from that option. (I can't quite >see the U of Arizona spending several thousand $ for a license to >run OS/2 Kermit 95 alone, even if I asked nicely...!) I was similarly hoping that Kermit 95 for OS/2 would be included in the same retail package as the version for NT and 95, just as PowerQuest does with Partition Magic. They tried having separate versions for Partition Magic V2, but went back to a single distribution, as it's more manageable. >-- >David Sewell * dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu | "Night-walkers, wizards, >Dep't of Geosciences, University of Arizona | bacchanals, revellers, > http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/ | sharers in the mysteries." > | --Heraclitus -- Bob Shair Open Systems Consultant 1018 W. Springfield Avenue rmshair@uiuc.edu Champaign, IL 61821 217/356-2684 < Not employed by or representing the University of Illinois > From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 25 18:10:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27041 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28338 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:10:34 -0500 (EST) From: FRANK_INNOCENTI@msn.com (FRANK INNOCENTI) Subject: which kermit for dec pdp (rsx-11m) to pc Date: 25 Jan 97 22:23:35 -0800 Message-ID: <00001b56+0000090e@msn.com> Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!msn.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Lines: 2 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6459 have an old dec pdp that i need to download ascii to a pc. which kermit should i get? From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 25 18:22:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28773 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28860 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:22:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: which kermit for dec pdp (rsx-11m) to pc Date: 25 Jan 1997 23:22:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5ce4jq$rl2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <00001b56+0000090e@msn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6460 In article <00001b56+0000090e@msn.com>, FRANK INNOCENTI wrote: : have an old dec pdp that i need to download ascii to : a pc. which kermit should i get? : For the PDP-11, you need the RSX version Kermit-11, which is at kermit.columbia.edu, directory kermit/b, among the k11*.* files, with binaries in the kermit/bin/k11*.* files. Begin by getting and reading kermit/b/k11fil.doc. The most likely binary would be kermit/bin/k11rsx.tsk. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 25 20:24:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17883 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04996 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:24:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!dciteleport.com!usenet.logical.net!node2.frontiernet.net!news.his.com!news.walltech.com!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@WhatXkindX.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: What kind of modem should I tell K-95 I have? Date: 26 Jan 1997 01:14:46 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5ceb66$62i@samba.rahul.net> References: <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> <5cbm9m$o22$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6461 : Tom Weaver wrote: : : says that its "28.8 V.34 PCMCIA Modem". Under "PC Card", it says, "PCMCIA : : 28.8/14.4 Data/Fax Modem". Jeffrey Altman (jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : Turn off your laptop, and pull out the modem card and look at the brand : name and model. That will give you more information to work with. Since you can connect to it with Kermit, you might try a series of ati0 ati1 ati2, etc. Some modems are fairly verbose identifying themselves. ati3 Sportster 33600/Fax V3.12 OK for example. -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@columbia.edu Sat Jan 25 20:36:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21068 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05717 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:36:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!news.he.net!viper.inow.com!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@HowXisXK95.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 26 Jan 1997 01:10:30 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5ceau7$5t0@samba.rahul.net> References: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6462 system@niuhep.physics.niu.edu wrote: : I hope that this info is fairly easily available 'cause my need : isn't exactly earth shattering, to make a long story short, there : is a "discussion" about the demand for telnet for Win 95. Not that it is a particularly robust product, but "telnet.exe" is part of the Win95 distribution, if you aren't interested in file transfer. If you do need file transfer, "ftp.exe" is also there. I know of at least one Kermit-95 installation ;-) I have PCPlus, K-95, and the original telnet and ftp on my machine. I use PCPlus only for the Fax driver, which is quite nice. I used the telnet portion prior to getting K-95, but it doesn't fire off the Win95 dialer, since the version that I have is actually a Win 3.1 product. I do use PCPlus-ftp occasionally, being more visual for browsing, but incredibly slow bringing up directory listings. The stock ftp looks just like Unix ftp (cumbersome to use). I've only used the ftp portion of K-95 a few times, probably because I forget that it is there, in favor of Kermit transfer, or ZModem transfer, both of which work against the Unix sites that I visit. -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 26 21:36:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14815 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02900 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:36:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.59.162.1!news.rt66.com!not-for-mail From: "Donald R. Donigan" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Help with AlphaMicro Kermit Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:27:34 -0700 Organization: Desert Code Works Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pmf02.rt66.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6463 I have an Alpha Micro 1000E that is running AMOS/L Version 1.3D(165)-5 and has a version of Kermit on it called Alpha-Kermit Version 2.0(23). This version of Kermit was written by an outfit called Soft Machines. This machine is connected via direct serial port at 9600 baud to an Intell P-166 running SCO Openserver Release 5. I have C-Kermit 6.0.192 running on the SCO box, built with "make sco32v5" as per the INS file. The problem is that when I attempt to send certain types of files from the Alpha, right after the send packet, I get a break packet and no file file transfer takes place. I have written scripts to automate the process of moving files from the Alpha to the SCO systems and have moved literaly thousands of files......EXCEPT *.MAS, *.DAT (some of then at least), *.IDA, *.IDX. I am attempting to transfer these files as BINARY as they are ISAM data files and indexed. Does anyone out there have a clue as to what is going on ? I used to think I was pretty good with Kermit, but now I am not so sure. Don Donigan Desert CODE Works donigan@rt66.com From news@columbia.edu Sun Jan 26 21:41:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15328 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA03138 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:40:59 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help with AlphaMicro Kermit Date: 27 Jan 1997 02:40:57 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5ch4jp$l0p$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6464 In article <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com>, Donald R. Donigan wrote: : I have an Alpha Micro 1000E that is running AMOS/L Version 1.3D(165)-5 : and has a version of Kermit on it called Alpha-Kermit Version 2.0(23). : This version of Kermit was written by an outfit called Soft Machines. : : This machine is connected via direct serial port at 9600 baud to an : Intell P-166 running SCO Openserver Release 5. I have C-Kermit 6.0.192 : running on the SCO box, built with "make sco32v5" as per the INS file. : : The problem is that when I attempt to send certain types of files from : the Alpha, right after the send packet, I get a break packet and no file : file transfer takes place. : This probably indicates that Alpha Micro Kermit is not able to open the file successfully. : I have written scripts to automate the : process of moving files from the Alpha to the SCO systems and have moved : literaly thousands of files......EXCEPT *.MAS, *.DAT (some of then at : least), *.IDA, *.IDX. I am attempting to transfer these files as BINARY : as they are ISAM data files and indexed. : Maybe Alpha Micro Kermit can't open ISAM files? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 27 13:17:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01619 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:17:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03347 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:17:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!a3bsrv.nai.net!a3bgate!wa1hoz From: wa1hoz@a3bgate.nai.net (Gerry Belanger) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:52:36 GMT Organization: North American Internet Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5ciq14$5s3@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wlfd-sh.nai.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6465 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : Or you can sample opinions of current licensees -- anyone who would care : to post here on this subject, don't be shy. I bought copies for both my machines at work and at home. At work, I use it as my lan telnet client to our SUN. I also use it over dial up networking to access my ISP's shell account, as I am doing now. Since the shell acct does not allow inbound ftp, I find it convenient to ftp net stuff to the shell acct (relatively fast), then kermit it to my pc, minimizing Internet congestion problems. Frank, love the auto file transfer! At home, use it over dial up networking, and direct with the modem to call in to work. gerryb -- Gerry Belanger, WA1HOZ wa1hoz@a3bgate.nai.net Newtown, CT g.belanger@ieee.org From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 27 14:16:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13913 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06223 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:16:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!sol.caps.maine.edu!maine.maine.edu!j31 Organization: University of Maine System Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:52:43 EST From: "Mr.X" Message-ID: <97027.125243J31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Need help using kermit with a Microcom QX/3296c modem Lines: 12 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6466 I bought the above mentioned modem used, without a manual. It's an external, connected to COM1. I am fairly certain that the com port info is set correctly. The IRQ seems correct. The DTR signal comes on when kermit loads. If I try using the provided hayes dial script, kermit tells me to turn my modem on. If I CONNECT, I don't get any response. Might I have to flip the jumpers on the modem? I use Telix, which controls the modem without any fiddling from me. So I know it works. Any info would be of help. - Jsn From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 27 15:14:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25596 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09107 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:14:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Need help using kermit with a Microcom QX/3296c modem Date: 27 Jan 1997 20:14:52 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5cj2bs$92j$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <97027.125243J31@maine.maine.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6467 In article <97027.125243J31@maine.maine.edu>, Mr.X wrote: : I bought the above mentioned modem used, without a manual. It's an : external, connected to COM1. I am fairly certain that the com port : info is set correctly. The IRQ seems correct. The DTR signal comes on : when kermit loads. If I try using the provided hayes dial script, kermit : tells me to turn my modem on. : The old Hayes dial script is a little bit over-picky about the DSR signal. Let's get it working "by hand" first and then worry about the script later. : If I CONNECT, I don't get any response. : You mean, when you type AT (uppercase) and then press Enter? No echo? Nothing? : Might I have to flip the jumpers on the modem? : I use Telix, which controls the modem without any fiddling from me. So : I know it works. : If Telix works than so should Kermit, considering the modem is on COM1. One thought would be if any other device or driver is using IRQ3 -- Kermit is interrupt driven; maybe Telix isn't and would not be affected. If that's not it, then how about the speed? What speed do you have Kermit set to? You said you were using the old Hayes script -- but that uses 1200 or 2400. Maybe your modem's interface speed is fixed at 38400, 57600, or 115200. Try setting different speeds, telling Kermit (assuming it's 3.14 or higher) to "set carrier off", CONNECTing, and typing AT and Enter until you see something. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Jan 27 20:06:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24347 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23109 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:06:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!news.asu.edu!usenet From: Rich Rochelle Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: NT security and key mapping Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:02:53 -0800 Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <32ED5E4D.691A@asu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.219.246.251 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6468 Hello, I am running K95 v1.1.10 on both Windows NT 3.51 and Win95. I have some keys mapped to my own macros which do things such as print screens to a file on the HDD, save to the FDD, etc. These macros all have worked on Windows 95, but when I got to testing them on NT, the window gets killed whenever I strike a key mapped to one of these macros. A friend suggested that it may have something to do with NT not allowing those types of operations, presumably for security reasons. Does anyone have any suggestions/explanations/etc? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Rich Rochelle ASU Libraries From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 09:09:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29716 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16668 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:09:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news-server.ncren.net!newz.oit.unc.edu!romani From: romani@earthlink.com (David Romani) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:24:59 -0500 Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aaladm26.lib.unc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.4 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6469 My two cents: We are a site license site and chose Kermit 95 as a telnet client (staff connected to the UNC online library systems editing records and the like, patrons at public workstations). Deciding factors for us included just how good the VT terminal emulation is (crucial for the editor in the online catalog) and the heavy duty scripting / programming / macro capabilites that let staff automate a lot of their work. We were an existing MSDOS Kermit shop and had a large investment in this kind of stuff. Folks needing file transfer usually use ftp clients, but I expect to see a lot of use of the netedit feature by our webauthors as it makes it easy for them to use pc editors rather than struggle with vi or even pico. In article <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu>, system@physics.niu.edu.nospam wrote: > I hope that this info is fairly easily available 'cause my need >isn't exactly earth shattering, to make a long story short, there >is a "discussion" about the demand for telnet for Win 95. > >One (very coarse) measure of this would be how many copies of Kermit95 >have shipped. > >Is there any feel for how much of the demand for K95 is for file transfer >only, how much includes significant use of the terminal emulator >for telnet? > >TIA > >Robert > >specify the e-mail address below, my reply-to: has anti-spam added to it >Morphis@physics.niu.edu >Real Men change diapers -- David Romani Library Systems UNC Chapel Hill romani@email.unc.edu From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 13:05:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20301 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28439 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:05:16 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!chi-news.cic.net!wolverine.hq.cic.net!news.cic.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!iron.ece.jhu.edu!pham From: pham@iron.ece.jhu.edu (Dzung Pham) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Reverse text video Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:02:43 GMT Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Lines: 18 Sender: pham@jhu.edu Message-ID: <5clbfj$hjd@news.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.14.190 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6470 Hello, Some of the host machines that I log into reverse the video which I find rather annoying. First, how do I unreverse the video when this happens? Second, is there a way to prevent this from happening? I'm using C-Kermit 6 under Linux 1.2.13. Thanks for any suggestions, -- Dzung ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dzung Luu Pham | E-mail: pham@jhu.edu | WWW: http://iacl.ece.jhu.edu/~pham Johns Hopkins University | ECE Dept | Image Analysis & Communications Lab National Institute on Aging | Laboratory of Personality & Cognition ============================================================================= From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 13:45:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01288 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01646 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:44:59 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!cmg From: cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Christine Gianone) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 14 Date: 28 Jan 1997 18:44:58 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5clhfa$g8u$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6471 We're nearing the end of the MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta testing period. Beta 14 is now available for testing. Please give it a good workout! The changes since last time are: 1. New REGET command. REGET is to GET as RESEND is to SEND: file transfer recovery of interrupted binary-mode transfers, in this case when downloading from a Kermit server. Works only when Kermit's FILE TYPE is BINARY. 2. \v(date) format changed to "27 Jan 1997" for compatibility with C-Kermit. Language-independent numeric (Julian) dates are available as \v(ndate), as always. 3. The new CONNECT-mode status-line clock (with blinking colon) is turned off when running under Windows, even in a full-screen DOS box), to stop flickering of the display caused by Windows recovering from a polling DOS call to get the time of day. 4. The CONNECT-mode status line is now refreshed to show the proper printing status if a printer is unavailable, rather than leaving a ghost "PRN" indication if printing has been terminated. MSK315.EXE and MSK315.DOC are in the MSK315.ZIP file at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Put it in your regular MS-DOS Kermit directory, unzip it, and run MSK315.EXE instead of KERMIT.EXE. Read MSK315.DOC for documentation of changes since version 3.14. Thanks, as always, to Professor Joe Doupnik of Utah State University for taking such good care of MS-DOS Kermit (and its users!). Send any problem reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. /Christine From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 15:13:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18316 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06248 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:13:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Reverse text video Date: 28 Jan 1997 20:13:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5clmlb$lq7$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5clbfj$hjd@news.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6472 In article <5clbfj$hjd@news.jhu.edu>, Dzung Pham wrote: : Some of the host machines that I log into reverse the video which I find : rather annoying. First, how do I unreverse the video when this happens? : Second, is there a way to prevent this from happening? : : I'm using C-Kermit 6 under Linux 1.2.13. Thanks for any suggestions, : UNIX (Linux) C-Kermit is not a terminal emulator; it's a (mostly) transparent communications pipe between the remote host and your terminal window or emulator (or terminal). Thus this question can't be addressed by C-Kermit; it can only be attacked at the remote host (e.g. in its termcap or whatever) or in your terminal window or emulator. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 17:13:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15256 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12212 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:13:04 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!news.mag.aramark.com!news From: Linwood Ferguson Subject: V6, changing network connections, suppress prompt Nntp-Posting-Host: pc-ferguson.mag.aramark.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: news@news.mag.aramark.com (Network News) Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: ARAMARK Mag & BooK Services Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:21:43 GMT Message-ID: <32EE51C7.202B@mag.aramark.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6473 Make it go away!!!!... I have some scripts that make various network connections. When I tried switching to V6, they started prompting like the following example shows. This interrupts the script and waits for an answer. As you can see, I've tried HANGUP (and just about everything else I can think of). How can I make this prompt either go away, or more firmly tell it to close the prior connection. PS. No, I haven't bought the new book yet; I plan to. But I did buy two of the old book! If it is clearly spelled out in the new book in 72 point type, my apologies. :-) $ kermit Executing SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]CKERMIT.INI;3 for VMS... Executing CKERMIT_INI:CKERMIT.SYS Good Afternoon! C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for OpenVMS VAX Copyright (C) 1985, 1996, Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York. Default file-transfer mode is TEXT Type ? or HELP for help. $1$DIA0:[ROUTERS] C-Kermit>set network tcp/ip $1$DIA0:[ROUTERS] C-Kermit>set host lefrtr1 Trying 198.5.242.193... $1$DIA0:[ROUTERS] C-Kermit>hangup $1$DIA0:[ROUTERS] C-Kermit>set host uvii A network connection to lefrtr1 might still be active. OK to close? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Stops script and waits -- Linwood Ferguson e-mail: ferguson@mag.aramark.com Mgr. Software Engineering Voice: (US) 540/967-0087 ARAMARK Mag & Book Services From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 17:50:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23630 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14043 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:50:19 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: V6, changing network connections, suppress prompt Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:50:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5clvr9$25l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32EE51C7.202B@mag.aramark.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6474 In article <32EE51C7.202B@mag.aramark.com>, Linwood Ferguson wrote: : Make it go away!!!!... : OK: set exit warning off : I have some scripts that make various network connections. When I tried : switching to V6, they started prompting like the following example : shows. This interrupts the script and waits for an answer. As you can : see, I've tried HANGUP (and just about everything else I can think of). : How can I make this prompt either go away, or more firmly tell it to : close the prior connection. : : $1$DIA0:[ROUTERS] C-Kermit>set host uvii : A network connection to lefrtr1 might still be active. : OK to close? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Stops script and waits : : PS. No, I haven't bought the new book yet; I plan to. But I did buy two : of the old book! : Thanks :-) You can use them to get a discount on copies of the new edition; see the order form: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html : If it is clearly spelled out in the new book in 72 point type, : my apologies. :-) : No, but it is spelled out in 10.5 point type on page 464, in the section that goes into detail about starting and stopping the program. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 22:23:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10774 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA27041 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:23:48 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Replay question X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Jan28.123249.10897@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:32:49 GMT Lines: 23 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6475 While automating the process in the MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 Kermit.BWR file for converting a session log file to a flat text file that was outlined by H.D. Knoble, using the REPLAY command, I wondered if there was any parameter that can be added to the end of the log file, or passed to the replay command or set anywhere to make the replay automaticly kick back to the MD-KERMIT> prompt at the end of the file? (as opposed to hitting Alt-X or ^]c by hand, with the keyboard.) (Probably not, but perhaps there is something I missed in looking over the doc files and "Using MS-DOS Kermit", 2nd ed.) TIA, Regards, Dallas E. Legan II 562.862.4854X'*' aw585@lafn.org legan@acm.org delii@sc.liberty.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Jan 28 23:39:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22577 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00636 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:39:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshost.atl.lmco.com!news.vf.lmco.com!usenet From: groberg@slr.orl.mmc.com (Michael Groberg) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ECHO of filename to be sent within script Date: 28 Jan 1997 12:07:16 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin Electronics & Missiles Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s401493.orl.mmc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6476 Does anyone know of a way to echo the filename that is being sent to the user. The "ECHO \%1" command doesn't work and I can't find an example in any of the scripts or documents. Thanks. Mike Groberg (Michael_N_Groberg@ccmail.orl.lmco.com) From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 06:52:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01758 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA08410 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:52:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!pasteur.fr!jussieu.fr!univ-angers.fr!univ-rennes1.fr!news From: chapdela@univ-rennes1.fr Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: AS400 ??? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:52:03 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Lines: 9 Message-ID: <32ef4729.10402959@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: annex-port3.univ-rennes1.fr X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6477 I'm searching to transfer files from my AS400, using KERMIT, is there a package for this platform, or perhaps somebody use a standard C Package with some adaptation Thank you far answers (mail prefered) Rémi CHAPDELAINE - Responsable Informatique - (AS400-PC-Mac-Sun-Novell-Ethernet) Centre Eugène Marquis (Regional center against cancer - non profit Health association) BP6279 - 35062 RENNES CEDEX - FRANCE - fax : (33)2 9925 3230 From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 11:11:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20058 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21078 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:11:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc!post-office.lvccld.lib.nv.us!tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us From: Thomas Harrington Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:06:10 -0800 Organization: Las Vegas-Clark County Library District Lines: 33 Message-ID: <32EF7572.BD0@lvccld.lib.nv.us> References: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us NNTP-Posting-Host: q.lvccld.lib.nv.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6478 > Or you can sample opinions of current licensees -- anyone who would care > to post here on this subject, don't be shy. How's K95 doing? I think its doing very well. In a time when Compaq wants $35.00 just to talk to you, Novell wants $200 and priority tech support numbers often cost more than many 1-900-Hot-Love numbers ( don't ask, I just made it up, I don't call... ), Kermit support is an amazing change from the 'new' norm. I can send an e-mail request and often receive a response within 15 minutes. Compare this to my latest e-mail question for Netscape News Server that took 1 month to get answered. Often the people you talk to at support number know less than you, not so at Kermit. I have been impressed to no end with their support and dedication to their product. If something does not work, they fix it. Bugs tend to be passing events, not everyday common occurrences. Kermit is ultra configurable. Most of my users are public patrons that have little/no computer experience. Our kermit script login them in and configure the keyboard for 2 different proprietary applications. Kermit also allows us to 'lock' our users into that one site. Kermit provides a level of security not found in any other program I've seen. For us, there is no other option. I'm just personally impressed with this product and the design team. So products I feel are a waste of money, this product is not. This is money well spent. Tom Harrington tomh@lvccld.lib.nv.us (The opinions expressed are not necessary the views of my employer. This is a personal opinion.) From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 11:20:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22316 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21571 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:20:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ECHO of filename to be sent within script Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:20:29 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6479 In article <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com>, Michael Groberg wrote: : Does anyone know of a way to echo the filename that is being sent to the : user. The "ECHO \%1" command doesn't work and I can't find an example : in any of the scripts or documents. : Your question is a bit vague. If Kermit is in remote mode, it can't echo anything because it is hidden behind the local Kermit's file transfer display. If it is in local mode, you can see the name on the file transfer display anyway. Kermit 95 and C-Kermit have a variable \f(filespec) that contains the file specification used in the most recent file-transfer command. If you need the filename to be in a certain variable, you can define a macro for this, like: define mysend echo sending \%1, send \%1, end \v(status) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 11:23:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23097 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21734 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:23:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc Subject: Re: AS400 ??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:23:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5cntib$isn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32ef4729.10402959@news> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6480 comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:20531 In article <32ef4729.10402959@news>, wrote: : I'm searching to transfer files from my AS400, using KERMIT, is there : a package for this platform, or perhaps somebody use a standard C : Package with some adaptation : This question is asked so frequently I have a canned response for it: Sorry, nobody has ever written a Kermit program for the AS/400. Many have announced their intention to do so, but none have succeeded. I'm beginning to suspect this system is either cursed or else impossible to program. If you are interested in working on an AS/400 version of Kermit yourself, let me know -- I'll be glad to get you started. (end quote) I'm serious -- this one is badly needed; at this point it is the only significant gap in the Kermit collection. Anybody who could pull this off would be a hero. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 11:45:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29276 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22712 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:45:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshost.atl.lmco.com!news.vf.lmco.com!usenet From: groberg@slr.orl.mmc.com (Michael Groberg) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit for HP1000's Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:15:27 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin Electronics & Missiles Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5cltpv$6iv@morgan.vf.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s401493.orl.mmc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6481 Does anyone know if there is a version of kermit that will run on the HP1000 series computer (RTE-A). Thanks for any help. - Mike Groberg (Michael_N_Groberg@ccmail.orl.lmco.com) From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 12:00:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02797 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23489 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:00:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail From: vilardi@panix.com (Greg Vilardi) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Compiling C-Kermit on DG/UX for Intel Architecture Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:00:04 -0500 Organization: Panix Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5cnvmk$m73@panix3.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6482 Hi. I am having trouble getting C-Kermit 5A(190) to build on a DG/UX box. I am hoping that someone can point me in the right direction. The box is a Data General AV5900 dual pentium pro 200, running DG/UX 4.11MU02 (for Intel) This is a very new hardware platform, and I really need to get this working ASAP. The following output is produced by doing either make sys5r3 or make dgux430. I will be glad to provide further information as needed if anyone can be of help. I would also be glad to contribute a binary for this platform to the archive, after I have successfully compiled it. For quickest responses, please e-mail me. Our USENET feed is really bad right now. Thanks a million... -Greg Vilardi Output capture follows... 35 -> make sys5r3 Making C-Kermit "5A(190)" for AT&T UNIX System V R3... make wermit \ "CFLAGS= -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O" \ "LNKFLAGS=" cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckcmai.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckucmd.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuusr.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuus2.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuus3.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuus4.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuus5.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuus6.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuus7.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuusx.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuusy.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckwart.c cc -o wart ckwart.o ./wart ckcpro.w ckcpro.c 14 states, 54 actions cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckcpro.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckcfns.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckcfn2.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckcfn3.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckuxla.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckucon.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckutio.c cc -DSVR3 -DDIRENT -DHDBUUCP -DDYNAMIC -O -c ckufio.c ckufio.c:441: conflicting types for `getpwnam' /usr/include/pwd.h:152: previous declaration of `getpwnam' Fatal error in /usr/sde/default/usr/lib/gcc/cc1 Exit status 041 *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. 36 -> Here is the DG/UX prototype for getpwnam()... pwd.h:_EXTERN struct passwd *getpwnam _PROTO_ARGS((const char *)); -- Greg Vilardi, Host: Scanner Cinema East E-mail:vilardi@panix.com USnail: 354 Indian Head Rd|In-Touch Management Systems | Home:(516)864-1310 Commack, NY 11725 |Melville, NY 11747 | Work:(516)752-2701x240 .sig Version 0.50(beta release) I thought, I wrote, I posted. From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 12:06:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03772 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23750 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:06:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit for HP1000's Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:06:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5co039$lis$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5cltpv$6iv@morgan.vf.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6483 In article <5cltpv$6iv@morgan.vf.lmco.com>, Michael Groberg wrote: : Does anyone know if there is a version of kermit that will run on : the HP1000 series computer (RTE-A). Thanks for any help. : Anonymous ftp to kermit.columbia.edu, directory kermit/d, text mode, files hpm*.*. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 12:11:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04980 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23983 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:11:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Compiling C-Kermit on DG/UX for Intel Architecture Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:11:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5co0c6$lsu$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5cnvmk$m73@panix3.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6484 In article <5cnvmk$m73@panix3.panix.com>, Greg Vilardi wrote: : Hi. I am having trouble getting C-Kermit 5A(190) to build on a DG/UX box. : I am hoping that someone can point me in the right direction. : I'll contact you directly about this and we'll get you the latest version, which is 6.0.192. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 14:19:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02528 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00043 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:19:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!rain.fr!pressimage!news1.isdnet.net!phoenix.siris.fr!ubnsrv.unisource.ch!scsing.switch.ch!elna.ethz.ch!usenet From: Marcus Spiegel Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kermit as port monitor? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:59:31 +0100 Organization: IBT Zuerich Lines: 5 Message-ID: <32EF9E13.41C6@biomed.ee.ethz.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: malpighi.ethz.ch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; AIX 2) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6485 How is the easiest way to configure kermit as a serial port monitor? I just want to see the incoming bytes in hex-code... Thanks! Malex From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 14:49:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09781 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01638 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:49:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit as port monitor? Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:49:33 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5co9kd$1op$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32EF9E13.41C6@biomed.ee.ethz.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6486 In article <32EF9E13.41C6@biomed.ee.ethz.ch>, Marcus Spiegel wrote: : How is the easiest way to configure kermit as a serial port monitor? : I just want to see the incoming bytes in hex-code... : Most versions of Kermit have a command like "set debug session" or "set terminal debug on" for this. It's not exactly hex, but it's quite usable as a port monitor. You can also "log session" to get a literal transcript of all the bytes that come in the port. Note, however, that if you have told Kermit to "set parity even" (or anything else other than "none") parity bits will be stripped -- so if you want to see them too, "set parity none" and "set terminal bytesize 8". Syntax may vary according to which Kermit program you are using. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 17:15:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09834 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08752 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:15:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!cwix!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:11:28 -0600 From: gschenk@wimsey.com Subject: ZModem and Kermit Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.unix.aix Message-ID: <854560738.25708@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 29 17:59:43 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.102.0.5 (m5.futureshop.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0b1 (WinNT; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: gschenk@wimsey.com Lines: 45 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6487 comp.unix.aix:105383 Hello All, I have been trying to get Zmodem working with Kermit failing miserably. It looks like a problem with re-direction, but I'm not and even more unsure of how to correct it. I need a communcations package that will allow me to use Zmodem and has the scripting capabilities so that I can automate a download. I do know about Pro-Yam, but they do not have a compiled version for AIX and it is only available in source form. There is also not a heck of a lot of information on their Web site describing the product. Anyways, enough rambling. Idealy it would be nice to get Zmodem working with Kermit. I have the following environment and if anyone can assist, I would appreciate it. AIX 4.1.4 Kermit v6.0 (binary from Columbia U. and yes I did buy the book :-)) Zmodem v3.44 from the Omen ftp site. Cardinal 33.6K modem I've gone through the chapter in the book that talks about using external protocols and set Kermit up as it suggested. Zmodem compiled using gcc, without any problems. I set up kermit using the following: set file type binary set proto zmodem {rz -v} {rz -a} {sz %s} {sz -a %s} {rz -v} {rz -a} I indicate to the remote site that I want to download a file and I put my side ready to receive the file and I get the following message in the /tmp/rzlog file "Retry 0: Got TIMEOUT". The site that I am connecting to is a BBS, which does have Kermit, but the implementation has a problem, because everytime that I download a file, I get a bigger file which is corrupted when I try to uncompress it. I have the serial connection on the AIX machine setup as 8N1 with hardware flowcontrol (actually, I tried xon-xoff as well). Any suggestions would be appreciated. regards, ->Gerry Schenk ->gschenk@wimsey.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 17:22:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10721 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA09151 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:22:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.campus.rpslmc.edu!news From: jcanar@hsmsun.tob.rpslmc.edu (jeff canar m.a.) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: sending a numeric code after dialing Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:02:28 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <32efc3a3.84242976@144.74.60.11> NNTP-Posting-Host: watson.tob.rpslmc.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6488 When dialing long distance, I need to send a numeric access code after dialing the number. e.g. -dial the number, -wait for a series of beeps (usually within a couple seconds of dialing the number) -then enter the long distance code -then the call goes through. How can I make this call using Kermit. I have "Using MS-DOS Kermit", but didn't quite see how to do this. Refering me to a specific place in the manual is fine. I'm using MS-DOS kermit 3.14, Dell P166, US Robotics Modem. I know kermit works fine cause I can dial anywhere locally without a problem. thanks in advance, jeff From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 19:57:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11872 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA16490 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:57:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: ZModem and Kermit Date: 30 Jan 1997 00:57:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5corlr$klr$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <854560738.25708@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6489 comp.unix.aix:105396 In article <854560738.25708@dejanews.com>, wrote: : I have been trying to get Zmodem working with Kermit failing miserably. : It looks like a problem with re-direction, but I'm not and even more : unsure of how to correct it. I need a communcations package that will : allow me to use Zmodem and has the scripting capabilities so that I can : automate a download. I do know about Pro-Yam, but they do not have a : compiled version for AIX and it is only available in source form. There : is also not a heck of a lot of information on their Web site describing : the product. Anyways, enough rambling. Idealy it would be nice to get : Zmodem working with Kermit. I have the following environment and if : anyone can assist, I would appreciate it. : : AIX 4.1.4 : Kermit v6.0 (binary from Columbia U. and yes I did buy the book :-)) : Zmodem v3.44 from the Omen ftp site. : I believe the problem is the well-known one: rz/sz does not allow its i/o to be redirected. Only the very old (pre-1988-or-so) public domain versions allow this, or else commercially licensed versions from Omen. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Jan 29 20:02:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12869 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA16759 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:02:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: sending a numeric code after dialing Date: 30 Jan 1997 01:02:15 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5corun$l25$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32efc3a3.84242976@144.74.60.11> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6490 In article <32efc3a3.84242976@144.74.60.11>, jeff canar m.a. wrote: : When dialing long distance, I need to send a numeric access code after : dialing the number. : : e.g. : : -dial the number, : -wait for a series of beeps (usually within a couple seconds of : dialing the number) : -then enter the long distance code : -then the call goes through. : : How can I make this call using Kermit. I have "Using MS-DOS Kermit", : but didn't quite see how to do this. Refering me to a specific place : in the manual is fine. : : I'm using MS-DOS kermit 3.14, Dell P166, US Robotics Modem. I know : kermit works fine cause I can dial anywhere locally without a problem. : This all depends on exactly what you mean by "enter the long distance code". I assume you mean by touch-tones, right? Assuming you have a Hayes-like modem, this would normally be done as follows: ATDT7654321,,,,,,9876543 This "dials the number", then the commas wait for a bunch of seconds, then the next number is dialed. If on the other hand you mean typing a number into some kind of online access server, then that's something you would do after you get carrier, which could be automated using INPUT and OUTPUT as described in the book. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 07:18:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18225 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 07:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04220 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 07:18:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!ukc!cypress.ukc.ac.uk!X.Chen-1 From: X.Chen-1@ukc.ac.uk (xc1) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: What is the news group for zmodem protocol? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 11:27:37 GMT Organization: University of Kent at Canterbury, UK. Lines: 15 Sender: X.Chen-1@ukc.ac.uk Distribution: world Message-ID: <875@cypress.ukc.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: cypress.ukc.ac.uk Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6491 May anyone tell me what news group for zmodem protocol on PC? Thank you very much Xian Chen From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 10:40:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29722 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14161 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:40:43 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: What is the news group for zmodem protocol? Date: 30 Jan 1997 15:40:36 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5cqfdk$scf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <875@cypress.ukc.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6492 In article <875@cypress.ukc.ac.uk>, xc1 wrote: : May anyone tell me what news group for zmodem protocol on PC? : There isn't one. Probably the closest groups would be comp.protocols.misc or comp.dcom.modems. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 12:13:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19008 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18534 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:13:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hplntx!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!news From: Peter Brooks Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Strange kermit problem Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:39:26 -0800 Organization: Psyche Trading Company Lines: 11 Message-ID: <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk> References: <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com> <5ch4jp$l0p$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: peter@psyche.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: iws1pb01.uksr.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6493 I have been having a peculiar problem using kermit in reflections from my HP Omnibook to a UNIX box through a null modem cable. I can receive files from the HP-UX box without any problems, and very quickly. When I try to send files from the PC (setting the unix kermit session to RECEIVE) it fails, seemingly whatever configuration changes I make. It doesn't seem to be able to set up the link, it retries a number of times, but then gives up. Any suggestions as to what it is up to? Peter H.M.Brooks From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 12:55:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28586 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20650 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:55:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Strange kermit problem Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:55:50 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5cqnb6$7gh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com> <5ch4jp$l0p$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6494 In article <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk>, Peter Brooks wrote: : I have been having a peculiar problem using kermit in reflections from : my HP Omnibook to a UNIX box through a null modem cable. I can receive : files from the HP-UX box without any problems, and very quickly. When I : try to send files from the PC (setting the unix kermit session to : RECEIVE) it fails, seemingly whatever configuration changes I make. : It doesn't seem to be able to set up the link, it retries a number of : times, but then gives up. : What is an HP Omnibook? What does it use for a Kermit program? What kind of flow control are you using? If the Omnibook is not using any kind of flow control, that would explain why it can send files but not receive them. See if you can set up a common method of flow control between the two ends -- RTS/CTS (preferably) or Xon/Xoff. If the Omnibook does not support any kind of flow control, try using shorter packets, smaller window sizes, etc. If that doesn't do the trick, get back with more specifics. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 17:20:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24047 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03358 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:20:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!newscaster-1.mcast.net!informatik.uni-bremen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!berlin.snafu.de!cyberspam!usenet From: julie@na.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5cr3qp$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5cr3qp$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:07:00 +1 Organization: COPY.CAT.SHOP Lines: 5 Approved: hweede@berlin.snafu.de Message-ID: References: <5cr3qp$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: berlin.snafu.de X-Cancelled-By: hweede@berlin.snafu.de X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1650251 EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Canon P133 Computer System at Closeout Price. From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 20:23:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28155 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11815 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:23:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit as port monitor? Message-ID: <1997Jan30.122009.92957@cc.usu.edu> Date: 30 Jan 97 12:20:09 MDT References: <32EF9E13.41C6@biomed.ee.ethz.ch> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 11 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6495 In article <32EF9E13.41C6@biomed.ee.ethz.ch>, Marcus Spiegel writes: > How is the easiest way to configure kermit as a serial port monitor? > I just want to see the incoming bytes in hex-code... > > Thanks! > Malex --------- For which computer and operating system? For MS-DOS Kermit LOG SESSION, and also see SET DEBUG ON for Connect mode. These are not hexadecimal dumps. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Thu Jan 30 22:04:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15820 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA16874 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:04:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Replay question Message-ID: <1997Jan30.191945.92986@cc.usu.edu> Date: 30 Jan 97 19:19:45 MDT References: <1997Jan28.123249.10897@lafn.org> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6496 In article <1997Jan28.123249.10897@lafn.org>, aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: > While automating the process in the MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 > Kermit.BWR file for converting a session log file to > a flat text file that was outlined by H.D. Knoble, > using the REPLAY command, I wondered if there was any > parameter that can be added to the end of the log file, > or passed to the replay command or set anywhere to > make the replay automaticly kick back to the > MD-KERMIT> prompt at the end of the file? > (as opposed to hitting Alt-X or ^]c by hand, > with the keyboard.) > (Probably not, but perhaps there is something I missed > in looking over the doc files and "Using MS-DOS Kermit", > 2nd ed.) > > TIA, > Regards, > Dallas E. Legan II > 562.862.4854X'*' > aw585@lafn.org > legan@acm.org > delii@sc.liberty.com ---------- Nope. Replay stays in Connect mode until you exit that mode manually. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 00:38:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09243 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA23545 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:38:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in3.uu.net!131.216.1.86!news.nevada.edu!homesick.cs.unlv.edu!ray From: ray@asci.com (Ray Tripamer) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 31 Jan 1997 04:34:46 GMT Organization: UNLV College of Engineering Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5crsp6$5vn$1@homesick.cs.unlv.edu> References: <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: gabion.asci.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6497 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm:15564 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : Or you can sample opinions of current licensees -- anyone who would care : to post here on this subject, don't be shy. I think that Kermit-95 is by far the best comm. program available for Windows-95. Their support of K95 is really the *best* of any software company I have ever dealt with. They actually answer their e-mail. They answer phone calls. They solve your problems. They really do help people. Clearly, this is the best $54 we've spent for software. Kermit has by far the best terminal emulation on the market. Their VT emulation is likely the best around (probably even better than DEC :-) Is there a wierd emulator you need that kermit doesn't have? Probably not, but just in case, you can ask them to provide, say, Gorzub emulation, and they will probably add it in the next release (I mean they have Volker Craig emulation in there for cryin' out lout!!) And they keep improving their product, and providing *free* updates and *free* support - try that with anyone else. Good work to all the folks who support Kermit for a job well done. -- Ray Tripamer ray@asci.com From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 03:36:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11669 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA29563 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:36:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!highway.leidenuniv.nl!usenet From: Mark Barto Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Leaving takefiles Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:21:07 +0100 Organization: AZL Lines: 6 Message-ID: <32F1AB73.694C@CDIV.AZL.NL> Reply-To: MBARTO@CDIV.AZL.NL NNTP-Posting-Host: bastion.azl.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6498 -Can anyone tell me how I can close takefiles. I use a number of files to set keymaps and communication parameters. After the startup I don't use the data in these files anymore and want to close them. -Is there a way to set scrollbars on the screen so you can easy scroll back in your screenbuffer, using the mouse? From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 05:03:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26480 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 05:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA03253 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 05:03:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshost.atl.lmco.com!news.vf.lmco.com!usenet From: groberg@slr.orl.mmc.com (Michael Groberg) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ECHO of filename to be sent within script Date: 31 Jan 1997 09:58:03 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin Electronics & Missiles Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5csfnb$7kg@morgan.vf.lmco.com> References: <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com> <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: s401493.orl.mmc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6499 In article <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu says... > >In article <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com>, >Michael Groberg wrote: >: Does anyone know of a way to echo the filename that is being sent to the >: user. The "ECHO \%1" command doesn't work and I can't find an example >: in any of the scripts or documents. >: >Your question is a bit vague. If Kermit is in remote mode, it can't echo >anything because it is hidden behind the local Kermit's file transfer >display. If it is in local mode, you can see the name on the file transfer >display anyway. > >Kermit 95 and C-Kermit have a variable \f(filespec) that contains the >file specification used in the most recent file-transfer command. > >If you need the filename to be in a certain variable, you can define a >macro for this, like: > > define mysend echo sending \%1, send \%1, end \v(status) > >- Frank > > Unfortunately, with Kermit 3.14, the "echo \%1" does not echo anything except a blank line. I am using Kermit for file transfer only, and once I successfully complete the transfer I want to copy the file to another directory, and then delete it from the original. So far I have not found a way to determine what file is passed to kermit on the command line. Thanks. - Mike From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 05:43:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04004 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 05:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04954 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 05:43:34 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!uucp6.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: Re: What kind of modem should I tell K-95 I have? Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:01:49 GMT Lines: 24 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6500 In article <5cbg2p$1r8q@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>, Tom Weaver wrote: >I'm trying to configure K95 1.1.9 for my system, an IBM Power Series 850 >laptop running Windows NT Workstation 4.0. Windows, under "modem properties", >says that its "28.8 V.34 PCMCIA Modem". Under "PC Card", it says, "PCMCIA >28.8/14.4 Data/Fax Modem". Is this a PCMCIA card modem or a builtin-to-the-laptop modem? >strangely: each time I hit enter, another 10-20 characters print - though the This sounds kinda like an IRQ conflict, I dunno about WinNT, but check the device manager's resource settings for that device to see if you can identify the IRQ that it's using and make sure (if possible) that it's unique. While Com1-4 can theoretically share IRQ4/3, things may not work well if you try. I had to fiddle quite a bit to get my new USR Sportster to work, configuring it and the other com ports out and turning them on one at a time to get them to drop into the 'right' Plug-N-Pray configuration slots. -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 05:43:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04003 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 05:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04965 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 05:43:34 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!uucp4.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <5cato2$p01@corn.cso.niu.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:54:05 GMT Lines: 28 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6501 wrote: >is a "discussion" about the demand for telnet for Win 95. I'm sitting here right now with my home machine connected to the Internet via a PPP link to my ISP using the Telnet feature of Kermit to do shell stuff (elm, trn, ftp, etc) on my ISP. This is _extremely_ useful, as I can fire up a WWWebBrowser over the same PPP link if I see an interesting url, without losing access to my shell tools. I no longer remember how I did without K95! >Is there any feel for how much of the demand for K95 is for file transfer >only, how much includes significant use of the terminal emulator >for telnet? Most of my K95 use is telnet! I've tried a couple of other telnets at work, but they worked so poorly (and emulated a VT100 barely if at all) that I bought VT510 terminals and scattered them about the lab. I suspect that I'll be buying a dozen copies of K95 when we get the lab PCs upgraded to Win95. If you had a Telnet that emulated a VT100 as well as K95, did telnet, file transfer, and serial communications and serial connection debug as well as K95 for the same price with the same friendly problem resolution and developer access I'd _still_ buy K95! -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 06:53:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27033 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26638 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:53:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!not-for-mail From: "Rich Corbett" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc Subject: Re: AS400 ??? Date: 31 Jan 1997 11:52:05 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bc0f6d$5b090160$6c28cccf@richcorb> References: <32ef4729.10402959@news> <5cntib$isn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: orl-108.ispace.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6502 comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:20652 What kind of help can you give? :-) I'm one of those who started. One of the problems is that there are no "free" compilers for the as400. So I was writing totally from scratch in COBOL. -- ->Rich Corbett <- http://inspace.net/~rcorbett -> also: corbric7@nascom.com, ABLI001 at ELINK, F3144906 on Forum/400 Frank da Cruz wrote in article <5cntib$isn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>... > In article <32ef4729.10402959@news>, wrote: > : I'm searching to transfer files from my AS400, using KERMIT, is there > > Sorry, nobody has ever written a Kermit program for the AS/400. > Many have announced their intention to do so, but none have succeeded. > I'm beginning to suspect this system is either cursed or else impossible > to program. If you are interested in working on an AS/400 version of > Kermit yourself, let me know -- I'll be glad to get you started. > > - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 07:27:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02170 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28416 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:27:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:25:59 -0600 From: peter@psyche.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Strange kermit problem Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Message-ID: <854710576.4625@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com> <5ch4jp$l0p$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk> <5cqnb6$7gh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jan 31 11:36:44 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 15.253.24.10 (braona1.cns.hp.com) X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0 (Win16; I) X-Authenticated-Sender: peter@psyche.demon.co.uk Lines: 31 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6503 In article <5cqnb6$7gh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: > > In article <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk>, > Peter Brooks wrote: > : I have been having a peculiar problem using kermit in reflections from > : my HP Omnibook to a UNIX box through a null modem cable. I can receive > : files from the HP-UX box without any problems, and very quickly. When I > : try to send files from the PC (setting the unix kermit session to > : RECEIVE) it fails, seemingly whatever configuration changes I make. > : It doesn't seem to be able to set up the link, it retries a number of > : times, but then gives up. > : > What is an HP Omnibook? What does it use for a Kermit program? > What kind of flow control are you using? If the Omnibook is not using > any kind of flow control, that would explain why it can send files > but not receive them. See if you can set up a common method of flow > control between the two ends -- RTS/CTS (preferably) or Xon/Xoff. > > If the Omnibook does not support any kind of flow control, try using > shorter packets, smaller window sizes, etc. > The Omnibook is a portable PC mine runs windows 3.1 at the moment. I have been using Reflection 1 for windows revision 4.21. I have set Xon/Xoff flow control. The problem is that I can receive files on the Omnibook, from the HP-UX box, but can't send them back. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 08:43:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17382 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA02051 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:43:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.net.uk!nntpfeed.doc.ic.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!ukc!cypress.ukc.ac.uk!X.Chen-1 From: X.Chen-1@ukc.ac.uk (xc1) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Look for zmodem for PC used as a dos command line Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 09:51:49 GMT Organization: University of Kent at Canterbury, UK. Lines: 7 Sender: X.Chen-1@ukc.ac.uk Distribution: world Message-ID: <882@cypress.ukc.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: cypress.ukc.ac.uk Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6504 I wonder anyone has a workable zmodem protocol driver for PC which can be launched as command line f rom DOS? Or where to ftp? Thanks a lot Xian Chen From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 12:08:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00752 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11896 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:08:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Leaving takefiles Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:08:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5ct8ui$g8v$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32F1AB73.694C@cdiv.azl.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6505 In article <32F1AB73.694C@cdiv.azl.nl>, Mark Barto wrote: : -Can anyone tell me how I can close takefiles. I use a number of files : to set keymaps and communication parameters. After the startup I don't : use the data in these files anymore and want to close them. : Command files are automatically closed when the end of the file is encountered. : -Is there a way to set scrollbars on the screen so you can easy scroll : back in your screenbuffer, using the mouse? : In Windows NT only, there are ways, but it's not recommended. In the forthcoming GUI version of Kermit 95 you'll be able to do this, but until then it's best to use the scrollback keys (or more precisely, kverbs -- which can be assigned either to keys or mouse events). - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 12:13:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01918 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:13:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12204 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:13:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ECHO of filename to be sent within script Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:13:55 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5ct98j$gif$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com> <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5csfnb$7kg@morgan.vf.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6506 In article <5csfnb$7kg@morgan.vf.lmco.com>, Michael Groberg wrote: : In article <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu says... : > : >In article <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com>, : >Michael Groberg wrote: : >: Does anyone know of a way to echo the filename that is being sent to the : >: user. The "ECHO \%1" command doesn't work and I can't find an example : >: in any of the scripts or documents. : >: : >Your question is a bit vague. If Kermit is in remote mode, it can't echo : >anything because it is hidden behind the local Kermit's file transfer : >display. If it is in local mode, you can see the name on the file transfer : >display anyway. : > : >Kermit 95 and C-Kermit have a variable \f(filespec) that contains the : >file specification used in the most recent file-transfer command. : > : >If you need the filename to be in a certain variable, you can define a : >macro for this, like: : > : > define mysend echo sending \%1, send \%1, end \v(status) : : Unfortunately, with Kermit 3.14, the "echo \%1" does not echo anything except : a blank line. : You mean, when you use a macro like the one above? This works here -- but of course you need to "set file display none" or somesuch, otherwise the file transfer display will pop up right away and clear the info off your screen. : I am using Kermit for file transfer only, and once I : successfully complete the transfer I want to copy the file to another : directory, and then delete it from the original. So far I have not found : a way to determine what file is passed to kermit on the command line. : Then let's forget about the variables, macros, and such. MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 does this for you automatically if you use the MOVE command instead of the SEND command. MOVE works like SEND, except it deletes the original file if and only if it is sent successfully. It works with file groups (wildcards) too. MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 is in the final stages of Beta: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 12:15:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02584 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12284 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:15:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc Subject: Re: AS400 ??? Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:15:45 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5ct9c1$gl6$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32ef4729.10402959@news> <5cntib$isn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <01bc0f6d$5b090160$6c28cccf@richcorb> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6507 comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:20687 In article <01bc0f6d$5b090160$6c28cccf@richcorb>, Rich Corbett wrote: : Frank da Cruz wrote in article : <5cntib$isn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>... : > In article <32ef4729.10402959@news>, wrote: : > : I'm searching to transfer files from my AS400, using KERMIT, is there : > : > Sorry, nobody has ever written a Kermit program for the AS/400. : > Many have announced their intention to do so, but none have succeeded. : > I'm beginning to suspect this system is either cursed or else impossible : > to program. If you are interested in working on an AS/400 version of : > Kermit yourself, let me know -- I'll be glad to get you started. : : What kind of help can you give? :-) : : I'm one of those who started. One of the problems is that there are no : "free" compilers for the as400. So I was writing totally from scratch in : COBOL. : What a concept! Well... somebody else is looking rather seriously into taking this on, so maybe something will happen this time. Watch this space for further developments. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 12:20:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03497 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12534 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:20:16 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Strange kermit problem Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:20:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5ct9ke$guh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32EBDA56.14F@rt66.com> <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk> <5cqnb6$7gh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <854710576.4625@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6508 In article <854710576.4625@dejanews.com>, wrote: : In article <5cqnb6$7gh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: : > : > In article <32F13F3E.4017@psyche.demon.co.uk>, : > Peter Brooks wrote: : > : I have been having a peculiar problem using kermit in reflections from : > : my HP Omnibook to a UNIX box through a null modem cable. I can receive : > : files from the HP-UX box without any problems, and very quickly. When I : > : try to send files from the PC (setting the unix kermit session to : > : RECEIVE) it fails, seemingly whatever configuration changes I make. : > : It doesn't seem to be able to set up the link, it retries a number of : > : times, but then gives up. : > : : > What is an HP Omnibook? What does it use for a Kermit program? : > What kind of flow control are you using? If the Omnibook is not using : > any kind of flow control, that would explain why it can send files : > but not receive them. See if you can set up a common method of flow : > control between the two ends -- RTS/CTS (preferably) or Xon/Xoff. : > : > If the Omnibook does not support any kind of flow control, try using : > shorter packets, smaller window sizes, etc. : > : The Omnibook is a portable PC mine runs windows 3.1 at the moment. I have : been using Reflection 1 for windows revision 4.21. I have set Xon/Xoff : flow control. : : The problem is that I can receive files on the Omnibook, from the HP-UX : box, but can't send them back. : I can only repeat my previous speculations and advice. It is evidently a lack of adequate flow control in the to-Omnibook direction. The cause is unclear -- it could be anything from buggy Windows virtual comm drivers to a sluggishness deriving from Windows itself. In any case, use RTS/CTS flow control if it as available -- it does not have the latency problems that Xon/Xoff does. Meanwhile if anybody else has an Omnibook and can comment from first-hand knowledge, please chime in. From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 17:37:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12513 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27799 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:37:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!genmagic!news.spies.com!nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!usenet From: Clark Briggs Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit Protocol Overview Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:04:22 -0800 Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32F26B93.63E3@jpl.nasa.gov> Reply-To: Hugh.C.Briggs@jpl.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: briggs-mac.jpl.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6509 We are considering an embedded processor that seems to use kermit over its serial port to load its boot image. We can see the ROM code that is doing this and standard practice is to use a Unix Kermit on a workstation for the boot host. Where can I find a short text description of the Kermit protocol to see if this processor is really doing a kermit thing? I looked at http://www.columbia.edu/kermit but only found the formal specification in a postscript file. this appears to be a very fine academic paper that is too formal for a quick read. I have been told that this processor only loads binary files, looks for 3 simple intro facts (where to load in memory, where to begin execution, and how long is the load-image-file) followed by the load-image-file-in-binary. It is further said that there are no checksums or ack/nak stuff in the ROM code. Can this be a valid (simple, minimal, whatever) kermit protocol? Thanks for your help, clark briggs hugh.c.briggs@jpl.nasa.gov From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 17:47:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14176 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28316 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:47:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!not-for-mail From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Protocol Overview Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:47:33 -0500 Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5ctsq5$dpk@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32F26B93.63E3@jpl.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6510 In article <32F26B93.63E3@jpl.nasa.gov>, Clark Briggs wrote: : We are considering an embedded processor that seems to use kermit : over its serial port to load its boot image. We can see the : ROM code that is doing this and standard practice is to use : a Unix Kermit on a workstation for the boot host. : Do they give you directions for this? What are the directions? : Where can I find a short text description of the Kermit protocol : to see if this processor is really doing a kermit thing? : The Kermit protocol specification is in a book, but all you need to is whether it's Kermit, right? Why don't you just capture a bit of it and post it or send it to kermit-support@columbia.edu and we'll tell you just what it is. : I have been told that this processor only loads binary files, : looks for 3 simple intro facts (where to load in memory, where to : begin execution, and how long is the load-image-file) followed : by the load-image-file-in-binary. It is further said that there : are no checksums or ack/nak stuff in the ROM code. : Well that's not Kermit -- Kermit always has checksums (or CRCs) and ACK/NAKs -- otherwise how would it detect and recover from errors? : Can this be a valid (simple, minimal, whatever) kermit protocol? : Not as you describe it. Try this: Connect your terminal emulator to this thing, and type: 7SXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX This is a Kermit packet that contains junk and a bad checksum. If Kermit protocol is reading this packet, it should respond with: N3 Which is a NAK. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 20:29:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10335 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05684 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:29:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infi.net!newsfeeder.servtech.com!post.servtech.com!not-for-mail From: vefatica@syr.edu (Vincent Fatica) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 xfer works when FTP doesn't????? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:15:24 GMT Organization: ServiceTech, Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32f2266f.55500445@199.1.22.49> NNTP-Posting-Host: cockpit.syr.servtech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6511 Is there some profound difference between sending files via FTP vs. via Kermit/TCPIP? Here's what's happening: On a PPP connection with a provider called servtech, whenever I try to upload via FTP from home to a site outside servtech.com, it bogs right down to almost nothing (<100 cps). But I can Kermit (via TCP/IP) the same file to the same host, on the same connection, at the expected 3000 cps. I don't get it. Kermit is just sending out TCPIP packets just like (?) FTP, isn't it? What might account for FTP being horribly slow when Kermit is working normally? Also, I have been playing with a HTML server on my NT machine. It behaves like FTP when trying to send something out onto the internet ... god-awful slow. - Vince ___ Vincent Fatica Syracuse University Mathematics vefatica@syr.edu http://barnyard.syr.edu/~vefatica/ From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 22:30:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25712 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11452 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:30:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!news From: orions@aol.com (Casper) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: ZModem and Kermit Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:48:10 GMT Organization: Orion Software Lines: 32 Message-ID: <32f25746.22612392@snews.zippo.com> References: <854560738.25708@dejanews.com> <5corlr$klr$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: orions@aol.com X-No-Archive: Yes Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6512 comp.unix.aix:105600 On 30 Jan 1997 00:57:31 GMT, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: >In article <854560738.25708@dejanews.com>, wrote: >: I have been trying to get Zmodem working with Kermit failing miserably. >: It looks like a problem with re-direction, but I'm not and even more >: unsure of how to correct it. I need a communcations package that will >: allow me to use Zmodem and has the scripting capabilities so that I can >: automate a download. I do know about Pro-Yam, but they do not have a >: compiled version for AIX and it is only available in source form. There >: is also not a heck of a lot of information on their Web site describing >: the product. Anyways, enough rambling. Idealy it would be nice to get >: Zmodem working with Kermit. I have the following environment and if >: anyone can assist, I would appreciate it. >: >: AIX 4.1.4 >: Kermit v6.0 (binary from Columbia U. and yes I did buy the book :-)) >: Zmodem v3.44 from the Omen ftp site. >: >I believe the problem is the well-known one: rz/sz does not allow its >i/o to be redirected. Only the very old (pre-1988-or-so) public domain >versions allow this, or else commercially licensed versions from Omen. > >- Frank I modified the kermit source to handle rz/sz from within kermit. I can now do a zsend and zrec to send and receive files via zmodem. E-Mail me if you need more info. orions@aol.com (cheap e-mail) From news@columbia.edu Fri Jan 31 22:49:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28807 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA12412 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:49:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 31 Jan 1997 22:49:34 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: References: <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5crsp6$5vn$1@homesick.cs.unlv.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.223.145 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6513 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm:15573 >...Is there a wierd emulator you need that kermit doesn't have? Probably >not, but just in case, you can ask them to provide, say, Gorzub emulation, >and they will probably add it in the next release... I also love k95 as the best terminal emulator around (I am particularly fond of the fact that it will let me control *exactly* what *every* key on the keyboard does), but if they are really interested in implementing the every wish of their users, I wish they'd integrate my other favorite program, perl5, as the scripting language - that would make for a totally flawless product :-). From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 1 00:37:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12834 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA17078 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:37:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 xfer works when FTP doesn't????? Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:37:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5cukr2$14t$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32f2266f.55500445@199.1.22.49> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6514 In article <32f2266f.55500445@199.1.22.49>, Vincent Fatica wrote: : Is there some profound difference between sending files via FTP vs. : via Kermit/TCPIP? : : Here's what's happening: On a PPP connection with a provider called : servtech, whenever I try to upload via FTP from home to a site outside : : servtech.com, it bogs right down to almost nothing (<100 cps). But I : can Kermit (via TCP/IP) the same file to the same host, on the same : connection, at the expected 3000 cps. I don't get it. Kermit is just : sending out TCPIP packets just like (?) FTP, isn't it? What might : account for FTP being horribly slow when Kermit is working normally? : : Also, I have been playing with a HTML server on my NT machine. It : behaves like FTP when trying to send something out onto the internet : ... god-awful slow. This is only a guess, but it sounds like someone's TCP/IP implementation of TCP flow control is bad. FTP/HTTP send files by opening a socket and sending data without any data being sent back in response. Therefore, when the TCP window fills and data gets stopped, the restart signal is not getting through or not getting sent. Kermit transfers continuously send data in both directions. Therefore, the available window size is always being piggy backed on top of real data packets. Sounds like someone is trashing TCP packets with 0 data. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 1 23:31:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15834 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:31:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08570 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:31:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: shegonee@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: direct serial connection Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 20:21:46 -0800 Organization: Netcom Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32F567DA.3FB0@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: irv-ca28-46.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 01 8:21:52 PM PST 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6515 Is there a way to use kermit to verify a successful direct serial connection between to machines? I have two Pentium PCs side-by-side running Windows 95. If I run a null-modem cable from COM2 of one machine to COM2 of the other, how can I use Kermit to verify that a serial connection has been established? The same two machines also have modems. I can use kermit to set the modem of one machine to auto-answer mode, then dial into this machine from the other via the PSTN. If I type someting in the kermit window of one machine it appears in the kermit window of the other and visa versa. This verifys the connectivity. Question, why can I do the same thing with a direct serial connection between COM2 on each machine? I can get the windows up, but when I press a key I get a count down in the that goes to zero and a message that says *serial port blocked*. When kermit goes back to the command line, there is a message that says *Tx waiting for CTS*. I used a null-modem cable which I purchased from a computer retailer. 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Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD_R Media for Sale at Low Prices From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 12:35:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22385 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01989 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:35:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: direct serial connection Date: 2 Feb 1997 17:35:33 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 44 Message-ID: <5d2j95$88k$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32F567DA.3FB0@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6517 In article <32F567DA.3FB0@ix.netcom.com>, wrote: : Is there a way to use kermit to verify a successful direct : serial connection between to machines? : Yes. : I have two Pentium PCs side-by-side running Windows 95. If I run a : null-modem cable from COM2 of one machine to COM2 of the other, : how can I use Kermit to verify that a serial connection has been : established? : Tell both Kermit programs to: set port com2 set flow rts/cts set term echo on set term cr-display crlf connect If your null modem cable is good, then whatever you type on PC A's keyboard should show up on PC B's screen, and vice versa. : Question, why can I do the same thing with a direct serial connection : between COM2 on each machine? I can get the windows up, but when I : press a key I get a count down in the that goes to zero and a : message that says *serial port blocked*. : This indicates that you probably don't have the RTS and CTS wires crossed, and/or that you don't have the DTR and CD wires crossed. : When kermit goes back to : the command line, there is a message that says *Tx waiting for CTS*. : I used a null-modem cable which I purchased from a computer retailer. : I verified that the pins were wired like the Modem B True Null Modem : in Figure II-5 on Page 372 of "Using C-Kermit" - except that pin 1 : to pin 1 was not connected. : If the RTS and CTS wires were crossed, then each Kermit program would be receiving the CTS signal from the other PC's RTS circuit. So you probably should check your cable again. The fact that Pin 1 is not connected already casts some disrepute on the cable -- that's the electrical safety (ground) circuit. So don't do this while sitting in a bathtub :-) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 13:41:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03785 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05194 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:41:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.uk.ibm.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail From: "Ed Murphy" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 2 Feb 1997 18:35:30 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bc1137$d05f20e0$8fd248a6@708714093> References: <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5crsp6$5vn$1@homesick.cs.unlv.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-210-143.ca.us.ibm.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6518 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm:15582 Ray Tripamer wrote in article <5crsp6$5vn$1@homesick.cs.unlv.edu>... > Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: > I think that Kermit-95 is by far the best comm. program available for > Windows-95. Their support of K95 is really the *best* of any software The best com s/w by far is ZOC (originally an OS/2 program; now available for Windows95). Check out a copy of it by downloading from www.emtec.com. You can try a full function version and register if your like it. From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 13:49:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04907 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05477 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:49:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm Subject: Re: How is K95 doing? Date: 2 Feb 1997 18:49:33 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5d2njt$cfb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5cavl5$2e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5crsp6$5vn$1@homesick.cs.unlv.edu> <01bc1137$d05f20e0$8fd248a6@708714093> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6519 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm:15583 In article <01bc1137$d05f20e0$8fd248a6@708714093>, Ed Murphy wrote: : Ray Tripamer wrote in article : <5crsp6$5vn$1@homesick.cs.unlv.edu>... : > Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : > I think that Kermit-95 is by far the best comm. program available for : > Windows-95. Their support of K95 is really the *best* of any software : : The best com s/w by far is ZOC (originally an OS/2 program; now available : for Windows95). : Check out a copy of it by downloading from www.emtec.com. You can try a : full function version and register if your like it. : There's not much point in saying that some product is "the *best*" (or "hot" or "kewl" etc) without saying why. In any case, this posting makes it look like I said "I think that Kermit-95 is by far the best comm. program available for Windows-95..." etc. That's not a quote from me, that's a quote from a Kermit 95 user (who then proceded to say why he felt that way). - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 14:25:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09775 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07260 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:24:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-angers.fr!ciril.fr!prof.ese-metz.fr!news From: leclaire_vin@lsi.supelec.fr@supelec.fr Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: How to get an OS/2 kermit server work??? Date: 2 Feb 1997 18:20:36 GMT Organization: Supelec Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5d2ltk$f5p@prof.ese-metz.fr> Reply-To: LECLAIRE_VIN@lsi.supelec.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: leclaire.rez-gif.supelec.fr X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6520 I have downloaded the most recent version of Kermit for os2. I want to use it as a server through Internet. I have a fixed IP address (no provider). After configuration (routers and so on) "server" command says "can't open line". I run OS/2 warp connect fixpak 26. Any ideas? Any experience? thanks for your help V.LECLAIRE From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 14:33:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13184 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07650 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:33:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to get an OS/2 kermit server work??? Date: 2 Feb 1997 19:33:35 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5d2q6f$f04$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5d2ltk$f5p@prof.ese-metz.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6521 In article <5d2ltk$f5p@prof.ese-metz.fr>, wrote: : I have downloaded the most recent version of Kermit for os2. I want to use : it as a server through Internet. I have a fixed IP address (no provider). : This is not supported by OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) or earlier. When Kermit 95 for OS/2 comes out (soon), you will be able to set it up as a TCP server, either directly or in host mode. Watch this space for announcements. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 16:08:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00332 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12255 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:08:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to get an OS/2 kermit server work??? Date: 2 Feb 1997 21:08:51 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <5d2vp3$kag$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5d2ltk$f5p@prof.ese-metz.fr> <5d2q6f$f04$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6522 In article <5d2q6f$f04$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: : In article <5d2ltk$f5p@prof.ese-metz.fr>, wrote: : : : I have downloaded the most recent version of Kermit for os2. I want to use : : it as a server through Internet. I have a fixed IP address (no provider). : : : This is not supported by OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) or earlier. When Kermit 95 : for OS/2 comes out (soon), you will be able to set it up as a TCP server, : either directly or in host mode. Watch this space for announcements. Not quite true. You can't setup OS/2 C-Kermit to be run via INETD. However, OS/2 C-Kermit does support the SET HOST * notation to listen for an incoming connection. But you can't start SERVER mode until a connection has been created. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 2 19:23:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03948 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21529 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:23:04 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!usenet From: Clark Briggs Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Protocol Overview Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 16:07:32 -0800 Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Lines: 65 Message-ID: <32F52C44.7A9F@jpl.nasa.gov> References: <32F26B93.63E3@jpl.nasa.gov> <5ctsq5$dpk@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: Hugh.C.Briggs@jpl.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: sailor.jpl.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6523 Great answer Frank! Thanks. Im not sure what I can do next because I dont have easy access to the one breadboard we have. I think you're right, the lack of ack/nak and crcs makes it pretty clear its not Kermit. Probably just uses Kermit on the workstation to send a particular binary stream down the serial line. clark ps, further comments embedded near Frank's questions below Frank da Cruz wrote: > > In article <32F26B93.63E3@jpl.nasa.gov>, > Clark Briggs wrote: > : We are considering an embedded processor that seems to use kermit > : over its serial port to load its boot image. We can see the > : ROM code that is doing this and standard practice is to use > : a Unix Kermit on a workstation for the boot host. > : > Do they give you directions for this? What are the directions? My phone conversation with the engineer that has the machine didn't get beyond "you just use kermit..." We will try to sit with him and watch. > > : Where can I find a short text description of the Kermit protocol > : to see if this processor is really doing a kermit thing? > : > The Kermit protocol specification is in a book, but all you need to > is whether it's Kermit, right? yes > Why don't you just capture a bit of > it and post it or send it to kermit-support@columbia.edu and we'll > tell you just what it is. probably wont impose on you for this, I like your idea below to test with a kermit packet. Plus, when I watch a session, I think that will be enough. > > : I have been told that this processor only loads binary files, > : looks for 3 simple intro facts (where to load in memory, where to > : begin execution, and how long is the load-image-file) followed > : by the load-image-file-in-binary. It is further said that there > : are no checksums or ack/nak stuff in the ROM code. > : > Well that's not Kermit -- Kermit always has checksums (or CRCs) and > ACK/NAKs -- otherwise how would it detect and recover from errors? > > : Can this be a valid (simple, minimal, whatever) kermit protocol? > : > Not as you describe it. > > Try this: Connect your terminal emulator to this thing, and type: > > 7SXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > This is a Kermit packet that contains junk and a bad checksum. If > Kermit protocol is reading this packet, it should respond with: > > N3 > > Which is a NAK. > > - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 02:59:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15040 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA14686 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:59:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!ratty.wolfe.net!news.aa.net!news.aa.net!croten From: croten@big.aa.net (Charles Roten) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,alt.security,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security,comp.security,comp.security.unix Subject: ssh (secure shell) with kermit ? Date: 03 Feb 1997 02:37:57 GMT Organization: Alternate Access Incorporated Lines: 44 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: big.aa.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6524 alt.security:42881 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security:1701 comp.security.unix:36356 Is there some way ssh (secure shell), or some similar approach, may be used to keep user IDs and passwords out of the hands of little wretches who put sniffers on the Net ? Using kermit ? As I am sure I do _not_ need to tell you, telnet sends the usename and password over the net _in_ _the_ _clear_. Once Joe Cracker gets his glommy little hands on the right packet, there's all Hell to pay, and no pitch hot. An outfit I interviewed with last week suffered a breakin by just such a lowlife. He gained _root_ access. They shut down before much had been compromised .. but the staff are _really_ unhappy. That site is pretty well locked down. Nobody telnets or ftps out. Nobody telnets or ftps in. That means nobody can dial in and get work done from home. And none of the Statistics research folks can call up the sites they need to talk to, to do what MathSoft is _paying_ them to do. [ The aforementioned scumbag might _just_ _possibly_ receive an all-expense-paid "vacation" as the guest of the State. Hopefully. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. ;^> ] Secure shell should get the job done, from what I've read in it's FAQ. But can it be run _securely_, from within _kermit_ .. either MS-kermit or C-kermit ? Or, of course, from within Kermit-95 ? Hopefully, fired up/configured from some startup script that folks who aren't "systems types" could just _run_ without having to tinker with ? Oh, and BTW .. are there any caveats I need to be aware of in regard to Tatu Ylonen's ssh version .. modulo the licensing bit, which the ssh FAQ (version of 19 August '96) told me about ? Any Windows- or NT- or Lose95-specific gotchas ?? Sorry to proclaim my ignorance about M$ OS's in front of all and sundry .. just reluctant to learn about a GULAG from the inside. ;^> Thanks in advance. -- croten@aa.net (Charles D. Roten) | Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, | Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any A few Linux tools and fixes, and a | and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail plethora of links to NT ports | sent to this address is subject to of standard GNU/UNIX tools | a download and archival fee in the may be found at my homepage: | amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes http://www.aa.net/~croten | acceptance of these terms. 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Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 08:00:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11053 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18124 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:00:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!psinntp!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 xfer works when FTP doesn't????? Message-ID: <1997Feb2.175835.93143@cc.usu.edu> Date: 2 Feb 97 17:58:35 MDT References: <32f2266f.55500445@199.1.22.49> <5cukr2$14t$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 44 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6525 In article <5cukr2$14t$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) writes: > In article <32f2266f.55500445@199.1.22.49>, > Vincent Fatica wrote: > : Is there some profound difference between sending files via FTP vs. > : via Kermit/TCPIP? > : > : Here's what's happening: On a PPP connection with a provider called > : servtech, whenever I try to upload via FTP from home to a site outside > : > : servtech.com, it bogs right down to almost nothing (<100 cps). But I > : can Kermit (via TCP/IP) the same file to the same host, on the same > : connection, at the expected 3000 cps. I don't get it. Kermit is just > : sending out TCPIP packets just like (?) FTP, isn't it? What might > : account for FTP being horribly slow when Kermit is working normally? > : > : Also, I have been playing with a HTML server on my NT machine. It > : behaves like FTP when trying to send something out onto the internet > : ... god-awful slow. > > This is only a guess, but it sounds like someone's TCP/IP implementation > of TCP flow control is bad. FTP/HTTP send files by opening a socket and > sending data without any data being sent back in response. Therefore, > when the TCP window fills and data gets stopped, the restart signal is > not getting through or not getting sent. > > Kermit transfers continuously send data in both directions. Therefore, > the available window size is always being piggy backed on top of real > data packets. > > Sounds like someone is trashing TCP packets with 0 data. -------- Um, er, not really. FTP and HTPP and Telnet and a big bunch of other well know applications all use TCP/IP for transport. TCP/IP is TCP over IP, with its own congestion control techniques. There is no such thing as send and send and expect no response. On average every second TCP data segment is ACK'd. Vincent didn't mention details about whose TCP/IP stack etc so speculating is definitely limited here. Since it's not really our task to decipher the FTP clients of other vendors I suggest you contact their Tech Support group, and your ISP, and ask for words of wisdom. Before doing so please triple check the modem setup to avoid XON/XOFF flow control (that's fatal for TCP/IP) and instead use RTS/CTS hardware flow control. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 09:56:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27012 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22659 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:55:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!EU.net!news2.EUnet.fr!Belgium.EU.net!news From: "Pierre Vandevenne" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,alt.security,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security,comp.security,comp.security.unix Subject: Re: ssh (secure shell) with kermit ? Date: 3 Feb 1997 14:48:24 GMT Organization: DataRescue sprl Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bc11e0$b770c9e0$117a00c3@compaq.dr-hq.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.0.122.17 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6526 alt.security:42883 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security:1706 comp.security.unix:36363 Hello Charles, Charles Roten wrote in article ... : ssh FAQ (version of 19 August '96) told me about ? Any Windows- or : NT- or Lose95-specific gotchas ?? Sorry to proclaim my ignorance Check out http://www.datafellows.com for a windows implementation of the ssh client -- Pierre Vandevenne, http://www.datarescue.com IDA Pro multi-os, multi-processor interactive disassembler From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 12:46:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02534 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29705 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:46:46 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.uoregon.edu!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!europa.clark.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!news From: "Guido Köhler" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ZMODEM sources wanted Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:59:37 GMT Organization: nova data AG Lines: 16 Message-ID: <01bc11eb$4fc21f00$470a10ac@wnt-guko> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.99.189.100 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6527 Hi there! We need to implement a ZMODEM filetransfer under Windows NT. Are there any usable public domain sources? Or some to buy? Any help as a short e-mail would be appreciated!!! Thanx in advance, Guido -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Guido Koehler - guido.koehler@novadata.de nova data AG - Software und Services ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 17:04:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00877 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11519 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:04:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.238.120.21!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:51:38 -0600 From: Tom Frenkel Subject: Doesn't stop after one screen Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Message-ID: <854988086.25703@dejanews.com> Reply-To: frenkel@cucis.cis.columbia.edu Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: frenkel@cucis.cis.columbia.edu X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 03 16:44:16 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 128.59.160.100 (cucis.cis.columbia.edu) X-Http-User-Agent: Lynx/2.6 libwww-FM/2.14 X-Authenticated-Sender: Tom Frenkel Lines: 12 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6528 Hi -- This problem has only started appearing in the last few months. When I use Kermit (MS-DOS Kermit 3.13) to connect to a Unix machine at Columbia, and go into the Pine mailer, the output doesn't stop after one screenful, but keeps "running on". This makes Pine unusable. Could anyone tell me how to deal with this problem? Thanks! --Tom Tom Frenkel -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 17:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06966 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12927 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:31:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Doesn't stop after one screen Date: 3 Feb 1997 22:31:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 41 Message-ID: <5d5p0a$7p0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <854988086.25703@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6529 In article <854988086.25703@dejanews.com>, Tom Frenkel wrote: : This problem has only started appearing in the last few months. : When I use Kermit (MS-DOS Kermit 3.13) to connect to a Unix machine : at Columbia, and go into the Pine mailer, the output doesn't stop : after one screenful, but keeps "running on". This makes Pine : unusable. Could anyone tell me how to deal with this problem? : It sounds like Pine does not know your terminal type. Before you start Pine, type: echo $TERM at the shell prompt. What does it say? It should say something like "vt100", "vt102", "vt320", etc. If not, give the following command at the shell prompt: term vt102 (or vt220, or vt320, etc); whatever agrees with MS-DOS Kermit's emulation. If you believe your terminal type is set correctly, but you still have this problem, then maybe UNIX somehow got the wrong idea about your screen diemensions. What does it says about "rows" and "cols" when you type: stty all Try giving the following command at the shell prompt before starting Pine: stty rows 24 cols 80 and see if that fixes things up. (NOTE: the "term" and "stty" commands shown above are for SunOS, which is used at Columbia -- different commands or syntax might be used on other UNIX versions.) Meanwhile, a hint about viewing material that scrolled past too fast for you to read it: just use the PageUp and PageDown keys to scroll backwards and forwards in the terminal screen. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 3 18:48:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23066 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA16533 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:48:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 15 Date: 3 Feb 1997 23:48:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5d5tgi$cka$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6530 The major changes this time are: 1. Maximum length for SET KEY definitions expanded from 127 to 1K bytes. 2. At attempt to handle 8 data bits + parity on serial connections -- needs testing! The new beta is at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Details are in the MSK315.DOC file in the ZIP archive. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 4 04:36:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15921 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13027 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:36:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!sho From: sho@tannis.sho.net (Sho Nakagama) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Doesn't stop after one screen Date: 4 Feb 1997 09:21:57 GMT Organization: Sho's World Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <854988086.25703@dejanews.com> <5d5p0a$7p0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: sho@tannis.sho.net NNTP-Posting-Host: village.ios.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.0 BETA UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6531 In article <5d5p0a$7p0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: > >and see if that fixes things up. (NOTE: the "term" and "stty" commands >shown above are for SunOS, which is used at Columbia -- different commands >or syntax might be used on other UNIX versions.) > Many kermit users put "vt320" as their terminal type. However the distribution/flavor of FreeBSD 2.X (used by so many ISP's) assumes that you are running a much larger screen size (it also assumes the same for xterm I note). This caused much annoyance when trying to help a friend over the phone. who also had trouble with the screen handling with *any* vt102 emulator under DOS. (ie trying to assign keys to screen handling with "less") The problem wasn't solved until I went over, had him logged into his account, and installed his own termcap and terminfo databases, which I downloaded from my own machine (running Linux). Mine are based on the distribution from ncurses, but modified using suggestions included in the minicom package. (some what reduced, I deleted support which while fun for memories, aren't likely to be used) The ones I have have a "PC Kermit 3.XX" entry. I aliased it to "msk3" and finally also to "mst3k" which everyone seemed to enter by mistake. Now note he didn't just have problems with Kermit, but also Procom Plus for Windows, Telemate 4.2, Quicklink II and the Pericom vt420 emulator of Windows. I actually test my terminal applications by logging in with a DOS/Win machine and an older Mac SE, using every program I own (which is quite a few looking at all the ones which came for "free" with all the modems I bought with "less" and "pine" because I figure the minimum is that they can read the manual pages correctly and can then email me for help. (these days I also make sure that slrn and lynx work right also) Besides, most of my friends took so long to learn how to get MS Kermit and Telemate to run optimal for them, they don't even want to know how to configure Netscape. HTH Sho PS-has anyone tried getting C-Kermit to compile under DJGPP? I know that a lot of things wouldn't work, but I thought the serial/modem stuff would. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Imagine, a cloth such conviction to keep you warm in a winter storm Imagine darkness in the day and nighttime simply falls away I'm just a time machine, not young, not old I'm about halfway between a sleep and a sleep" --------------------------------------------------------------------- GBH(tm) [your secret society ad here] KoX ARSCC From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 4 22:17:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29751 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA21807 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:17:52 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Doesn't stop after one screen Message-ID: <1997Feb4.194807.93274@cc.usu.edu> Date: 4 Feb 97 19:48:06 MDT References: <854988086.25703@dejanews.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 14 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6532 In article <854988086.25703@dejanews.com>, Tom Frenkel writes: > Hi -- > This problem has only started appearing in the last few months. > When I use Kermit (MS-DOS Kermit 3.13) to connect to a Unix machine > at Columbia, and go into the Pine mailer, the output doesn't stop > after one screenful, but keeps "running on". This makes Pine > unusable. Could anyone tell me how to deal with this problem? ---------- A guess: the Unix machine attempted to determine the terminal screen size by moving the cursor to infinity,infinity and then asks where it is. MSK 3.13 said "lost, of course" or some such. I recommend you try MSK 3.15 beta (open beta, solid) where this particular problem is absent. Please see kermit.columbia.edu for the binary file. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 5 02:36:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11291 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA03046 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:36:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.be.com!news1.crl.com!nexp.crl.com!crl.crl.com!not-for-mail From: randyd@crl.com (Randy Ding) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: file transfer protocols, kermit, xmodem Date: 4 Feb 1997 21:55:16 -0800 Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5d97c4$6s8@crl.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6533 Hello, I need to create a file transfer protocol in C/C++/assembly for the Motorola HC812 Embedded processor. Today I am placing an order for Kermit, A File Transfer Protocol. I would also like to take a look at X-Modem protocol specifications. Does anyone know where I may d/l or purchase the document? Thanks for any help.. Randy. randyd@lse.fullfeed.com http://www.lse.fullfeed.com/~randyd From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 5 15:37:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21690 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29203 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:37:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!cloudbreak.rs.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!198.69.204.8!news.fast.net!news.pgh.net!usenet From: David Gentzel Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Setting terminal ID string in K95 Date: 05 Feb 1997 15:29:23 -0500 Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.210.67.219 X-Newsreader: Red Gnus v0.60/Emacs 19.30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6534 Is there any way to set the terminal ID string in K95? I have a product (Motorola BitSURFR Pro) which has a command (AT@MENU) which is *very* picky about wanting a "vt100 terminal". "set terminal type vt100" is not sufficient as the BitSURFR checks the ID string. It is looking for (correctly or not) "[?1;2c". In vt100 mode, K95 returns "[?1c". I can work around the problem by patching the K95.EXE file, but that is a bit awkward... -- Dave Gentzel gentzel@pobox.com From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 5 16:26:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29251 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01425 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:26:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Setting terminal ID string in K95 Date: 5 Feb 1997 21:25:50 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5datsu$pr1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6535 In article , David Gentzel wrote: : Is there any way to set the terminal ID string in K95? : : I have a product (Motorola BitSURFR Pro) which has a command (AT@MENU) which : is *very* picky about wanting a "vt100 terminal". : : "set terminal type vt100" is not sufficient as the BitSURFR checks the ID : string. It is looking for (correctly or not) "[?1;2c". In vt100 mode, : K95 returns "[?1c". : : I can work around the problem by patching the K95.EXE file, but that is a : bit awkward... And would be far from safe. No. there is no way to set the ID string for the terminal. What is a BitSURFR that it wants a particular Terminal type? The best you could do is SET TERM TYPE ANSI which does not have an ID string and then use a script to watch for the request and make the proper response. The "1" means supports 132 columns. The "2" means supports the printer port. I have added the "2" to the ID string for the next release. It shouldn't do any harm. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 03:59:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27492 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA01813 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:58:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.inreach.com!usenet From: cjtech@inreach.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Windows 95 Info Guide Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 07:23:13 GMT Organization: Internet News Server Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3f9f50b2.15898302@news.zippo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp2191.inreach.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6536 Find out what you've been missing... 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From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 05:52:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10939 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 05:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA06692 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 05:52:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3f9f50b2.15898302@news.zippo.com> Date: 6 Feb 1997 09:29:49 GMT Control: cancel <3f9f50b2.15898302@news.zippo.com> Message-ID: Sender: cjtech@inreach.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1752211 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 08:39:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13987 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03190 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!panix3.panix.com!mpollak From: Michael Pollak Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: setting modem speed in MacKermit Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:25 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6537 I know how you do it in MSKermit, just put a "set speed 19200" in the mskermit.ini file. How do you do it in the Mac version? All help greatly appreciated, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 11:33:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11420 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11586 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:33:20 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!news.capvolmac.nl!Utrecht.NL.net!Leiden.NL.net!chagall.cti-software.nl!news From: pim@chagall.cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: associating .KSC scripts with K95 in NT 4.0 Date: 6 Feb 1997 15:56:09 +0100 Organization: CTI Software BV, The Hague, the Netherlands Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5dcre9$1n3@chagall.cti-software.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: chagall.cti-software.nl X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #2 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6538 In Win95, I could associate Kermit Scripts with a shortcut to K95.EXE. I could then change the properties of the shortcut, so that Win95 would use my favorite fonts for K95. In NT, I can no longer associate extensions with shortcuts. I can associate Kermit scripts with K95.EXE, but then I loose the ability to set a custom font. Is there some workaround for this problem ? -- E-mail : Pim Zandbergen S-mail : Laan Copes van Cattenburch 70, 2585 GD The Hague, The Netherlands Phone : +31 70 3067373 Fax : +31 70 3067374 From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 13:15:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13513 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16389 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:15:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!news.new-york.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!129.35.248.10!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!usenet From: timur@austin.ibm.com (Timur Tabi) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: OS/2 Kermit: telnetting to OS/2, arrow keys don't work Date: 6 Feb 1997 17:24:31 GMT Organization: IBM Distributed Computed Environment Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dd44f$1sjs@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: timur.austin.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Newsreader: NeoLogic News for OS/2 [version: 4.5d] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6539 I'm using OS/2 Kermit as a telnet client. When I telnet to another OS/2 machine, the arrow keys (and other keys like it) don't work right. I've tried playing with the SET KEYS command, but nothing seems to work right. SET TERM ANSI didn't make much of a difference. Plain old telnet.exe works fine. I can use the arrow keys just fine. What keyboard setting do I need? -- Timur Tabi, timur@austin.ibm.com. IBM Distributed Computing Environment (DCE) performance http://www.shirenet.com/~crusader/Timur/ THE OS/2 Programming Page: http://www.iqpac.com/edm2/common/links.html .. In Windows 95, no one can hear you scream From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 14:16:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26746 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19264 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:16:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: setting modem speed in MacKermit Date: 6 Feb 1997 19:16:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ddalk$1jn$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6540 In article , Michael Pollak wrote: : I know how you do it in MSKermit, just put a "set speed 19200" in the : mskermit.ini file. How do you do it in the Mac version? : In the command window, at the prompt, "set speed 19200". Or use the pulldown menus: Settings -> Communications, then click the button for 19200. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 14:42:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02485 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20461 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:42:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: OS/2 Kermit: telnetting to OS/2, arrow keys don't work Date: 6 Feb 1997 19:42:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5ddc7e$3ar$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5dd44f$1sjs@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6541 In article <5dd44f$1sjs@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>, Timur Tabi wrote: : I'm using OS/2 Kermit as a telnet client. When I telnet to another : OS/2 machine, the arrow keys (and other keys like it) don't work right. : I've tried playing with the SET KEYS command, but nothing seems to : work right. SET TERM ANSI didn't make much of a difference. : : Plain old telnet.exe works fine. I can use the arrow keys just fine. : What keyboard setting do I need? This is not a problem with the keyboard settings but with the delay between the arriving and the rest of the escape sequence. C-Kermit 5a(191) did not ensure that the entire sequence would be sent in one packet. The solution is to increase the amount of time that IBM Telnetd waits before determining that the is not part of an escape sequence. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 14:45:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03209 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20695 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:45:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: associating .KSC scripts with K95 in NT 4.0 Date: 6 Feb 1997 19:45:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5ddcci$3es$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5dcre9$1n3@chagall.cti-software.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6542 In article <5dcre9$1n3@chagall.cti-software.nl>, Pim Zandbergen wrote: : In Win95, I could associate Kermit Scripts with a shortcut to K95.EXE. : I could then change the properties of the shortcut, so that Win95 would use : my favorite fonts for K95. : : In NT, I can no longer associate extensions with shortcuts. I can : associate Kermit scripts with K95.EXE, but then I loose the ability : to set a custom font. : : Is there some workaround for this problem ? This was handled off-line. Pim noticed that on Windows 95 K95 links are stored as PIF files. And on NT, they are stored as LNK files. PIF files are considered to be executables by Windows 95 while LNK files are not considered to be executables by NT. Therefore, the inability to make the association. On the other hand though, NT will remember the fonts you assign to a given session if you ask it to. So the problem is not really a problem. Jeffrey Altman * Kermit Development Group * Columbia University * 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cko191.html Kermit 95 for Windows 95/NT: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 6 23:23:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26217 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15010 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:22:59 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!Frankfurt.Germany.EU.net!Stuttgart.Germany.EU.net!main.Germany.EU.net!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!UZS106 From: UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 97 04:35:52 MEZ Organization: RHRZ Uni-Bonn Lines: 14 Message-ID: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6543 Compared to kermit 315 beta announces this is a very trivial question, hopefully. Is it possible to write a dialinscript? Well, something that uses the hayes.scr and another script. Now, I start kermit with a batch.bat like kermite dial (number), c, stay Then manual login, I type userid and password and then sl(ip)... But it should be possible to do this automagically with input and output. I tried something but had no luck. Any ideas? I am shure I am not the first who asks this question. Have I overlooked somethink in the docs? Heiko (not a programmer:)) From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 01:50:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21761 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA19726 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:50:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net!stefand From: stefand@ibm.net (Stefan A. Deutscher) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: OS/2 Kermit: telnetting to OS/2, arrow keys don't work Date: 7 Feb 1997 06:39:06 GMT Organization: Lunatic asylum Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5deima$1tki$7@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <5dd44f$1sjs@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Reply-To: sad@utk.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-241-80.tn.us.ibm.net X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.0 BETA OS/2) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6544 On 6 Feb 1997 17:24:31 GMT, Timur Tabi wrote: >I'm using OS/2 Kermit as a telnet client. When I telnet to another >OS/2 machine, the arrow keys (and other keys like it) don't work right. >I've tried playing with the SET KEYS command, but nothing seems to >work right. SET TERM ANSI didn't make much of a difference. > >Plain old telnet.exe works fine. I can use the arrow keys just fine. >What keyboard setting do I need? Well, seems you need to get the newest version of Kermit for OS/2 which is currently in late beta and should be out soon. I encountered exactly that problem, and it is not there anymore in the betas. (I am amongst the beta testers.). Jeffrey Altman explained that to me such that some timing thing and the current position information that OS/2 sends after each key stroke confused old C-Kermit 5A(191), or so. I suppose he'll correct me here in case I got it completely wrong. Anyway, it now works! Stefan ============================================================================ Stefan A. Deutscher | (+1-423-) voice fax The University of Tennessee, Knoxville | UTK : 974-7838 974-7843 Department of Physics and Astronomy | ORNL : 574-5897 574-1118 401, A. H. Nielsen Building | home : 522-7845 522-7845 Knoxville, T.N. 37996-1200, USA | email: sad@utk.edu ============================================================================ Dictated with OS/2 Warp 4 VoiceType dictation. Using slrn 0.931 offline. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 04:55:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19002 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27380 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:55:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!alice.whitman.edu!news From: Randy Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit Protocol Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 01:26:03 -0800 Organization: Walla Walla College Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32FAF52B.EDE@wwc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sie-beckra.wwc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6545 I'm working a project that will interface the IR port on the HP48 series calculators to the serial port on a PC. Could anyone tell me the what the start character or string to initiate a kermit transfer is and the character or string to stop the transfer? Also I would like to know the general format of a Kermit packet and what information is sent before the actual data is transfered (if there is any). Is there a Kermit FAQ available with this kink of information, and where could I access it? Thanks... --- Randall From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 10:41:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16654 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:41:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02049 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:41:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: 7 Feb 1997 15:41:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5dfiek$1b1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6546 In article <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>, wrote: : Compared to kermit 315 beta announces this is a very trivial question, : hopefully. : : Is it possible to write a dialinscript? Well, something that uses the : hayes.scr and another script. : It is possible, and we have done this with Kermit 95. It is a very long script because it has to implement (a) a user ID system, (b) a secure file system, and (c) a user interface. This is what is commonly called "host mode". In theory this would be possible with MS-DOS Kermit too, but in practice the space limitations (overall, and on various specific items) and the lack of multiprocessing capability probably preclude it, except perhaps on a very small scale. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 10:51:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18371 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02405 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:51:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Protocol Date: 7 Feb 1997 15:51:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5dfj19$22d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <32FAF52B.EDE@wwc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6547 In article <32FAF52B.EDE@wwc.edu>, Randy wrote: : I'm working a project that will interface the IR port on the HP48 series : calculators to the serial port on a PC. Could anyone tell me the what : the start character or string to initiate a kermit transfer is ... : If a Kermit program already exists for the platform you are coding for, we recommend you simply use it. Kermit programs are designed to be callable from other programs. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 12:25:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08394 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07049 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:25:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newshost.atl.lmco.com!news.vf.lmco.com!usenet From: groberg@slr.orl.mmc.com (Michael Groberg) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: ECHO of filename to be sent within script Date: 7 Feb 1997 17:18:57 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin Electronics & Missiles Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5dfo61$qpj@morgan.vf.lmco.com> References: <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com> <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: s401493.orl.mmc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6548 In article <5cntcd$ils$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu says... > >In article <5ckq5k$kg4@morgan.vf.lmco.com>, >Michael Groberg wrote: >: Does anyone know of a way to echo the filename that is being sent to the >: user. The "ECHO \%1" command doesn't work and I can't find an example >: in any of the scripts or documents. >: >Your question is a bit vague. If Kermit is in remote mode, it can't echo >anything because it is hidden behind the local Kermit's file transfer >display. If it is in local mode, you can see the name on the file transfer >display anyway. > >Kermit 95 and C-Kermit have a variable \f(filespec) that contains the >file specification used in the most recent file-transfer command. > >If you need the filename to be in a certain variable, you can define a >macro for this, like: > > define mysend echo sending \%1, send \%1, end \v(status) > >- Frank > > It would be very nice if MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 (or subsequent) incorporated the \f(filespec) so that the receiving end could take actions based on the file name. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 14:18:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02450 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12412 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:18:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!gail.ripco.com!nntp.neu.edu!camelot.ccs.neu.edu!news From: Rich Pieri Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Protocol Date: 07 Feb 1997 13:45:10 -0500 Organization: Prescient Technologies, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <32FAF52B.EDE@wwc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.103.216.194 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.11/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6549 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "R" == Randy writes: R> Is there a Kermit FAQ available with this kink of information, and R> where could I access it? Yes, but you do not need it. The HP48 already has a working Kermit written for it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMvt4OZ6VRH7BJMxHAQG7YwP9FKYBM00QJnELHx+oLS4yyblYFxLVNlKY H9H+f20xj19/BxvAc/+M7o0D5j8AjXxgpEkIUpB01MQ4x5fwp1eW78rTDe0DnxnG 4pYP9t/wQ6yshDWMzYzys3+65y0tnrzTlH95fIkzgQl/8eQH68yizSrY065r9N6G vMbH7j8W4Pk= =ZUG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri | Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid Prescient Technologies, Inc. | core, which, if exposed due to A Stone & Webster Company | rupture, should not be touched, I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC | inhaled, or looked at. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 18:33:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25022 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24512 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:33:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!decwrl!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!news From: George Applequist Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: forcibly quitting C-Kermit in batch operation Date: 07 Feb 1997 18:18:21 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 13 Sender: applequi@flexopt.ecn.purdue.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flexopt.ecn.purdue.edu Cc: applequi@iron.ecn.purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6550 I want to include the "quit" command in a "take" file which is supplied on the command line. But I have this situation: A network connection to dialout might still be active. OK to exit? Please respond Yes or No Is there a script command that forces kermit to quit? You can't just put "yes" in the script. -- George Applequist From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 18:41:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26026 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24986 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:41:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: forcibly quitting C-Kermit in batch operation Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:41:25 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5dgej5$1t8$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6551 In article , George Applequist wrote: : I want to include the "quit" command in a "take" file which is : supplied on the command line. But I have this situation: : : A network connection to dialout might still be active. : OK to exit? : Please respond Yes or No : : Is there a script command that forces kermit to quit? : Yes: SET EXIT WARNING OFF - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 20:15:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11358 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29204 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:15:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 16 Date: 8 Feb 1997 01:15:07 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5dgk2r$824$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6552 Beta 16 resolves some problems with the INPUT command, scales the maximum length of SET KEY definitions (which was increased in Beta 15 to 1024) back down to 150 bytes because of some unpleasant side effects, and fixes a small bug in DG terminal emulation, in which underlining was not turned off when a formfeed (Ctrl-L) arrived. Beta 16 is in: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Thanks, as always, to Joe D! Send reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 7 22:00:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26699 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 22:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04057 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 22:00:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!Gamma.RU!srcc!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!UZS106 From: UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 97 03:21:21 MEZ Organization: RHRZ Uni-Bonn Lines: 28 Message-ID: <17B0F2F3DS85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5dfiek$1b1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6553 Hi Frank, you are so up in the sky, that you cannot imagine the triviality of my question ,-) Wow!! Cheers!! >: Is it possible to write a dialinscript? Well, something that uses the >: hayes.scr and another script. >: >It is possible, and we have done this with Kermit 95. It is a very long >script because it has to implement (a) a user ID system, (b) a secure file >system, and (c) a user interface. This is what is commonly called "host >mode". In theory this would be possible with MS-DOS Kermit too, but in >practice the space limitations (overall, and on various specific items) >and the lack of multiprocessing capability probably preclude it, except >perhaps on a very small scale. Maybe I misunderstood you, but I wasnt thinking of dialing into Kermit, but to use kermit as a tool to dial into a cisco terminalserver, or somethjing similar, what the Windoze people do with Winsock and winsock dialin scripts. Joe Doupnik has a etherppp distribution with a dialinscript somewhere in kermit.columbia.edu. I am looking for something like this dialinscript for kermit, that I dont have to enter my username and passwort and the "slip" command by hand. Its not a problem for me to do this manualy, but if it could be done by kermit with the help of a little script....;-) Btw, whats up with Mac Kermit? Best wishes from the Rhine, Heiko (and, as always, sorry for my poor english) From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 8 07:12:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27419 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15538 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:12:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 06:11:27 -0600 From: JARE@juno.com Subject: Fast kermit for windows? Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Message-ID: <855348198.733@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Feb 07 20:43:18 1997 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 192.188.199.5 (sailor.lib.md.us) X-Http-User-Agent: Lynx/2.6 libwww-FM/2.14 X-Authenticated-Sender: JARE@juno.com Lines: 8 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6554 anyone know of a communications or terminal program that allows more than a 100 packet-length in the kermit file transfer? I am hoping for a package with close to 1000 or maybe as many as a 3000 recieve packet-length. preferably shareware/freeware/public domain -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 8 11:09:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24788 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26840 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:09:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: 8 Feb 1997 16:09:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5dfiek$1b1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <17B0F2F3DS85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6555 In article <17B0F2F3DS85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>, wrote: : ... : Maybe I misunderstood you, but I wasnt thinking of dialing into : Kermit, but to use kermit as a tool to dial into a cisco terminalserver, : or somethjing similar, what the Windoze people do with Winsock and : winsock dialin scripts. Joe Doupnik has a etherppp distribution : with a dialinscript somewhere in kermit.columbia.edu. I am looking : for something like this dialinscript for kermit, that I dont : have to enter my username and passwort and the "slip" command by hand. : Its not a problem for me to do this manualy, but if it could be done : by kermit with the help of a little script....;-) : Oh, you want Kermit to be a SLIP or PPP dialer. OK, simple answer: . MS-DOS Kermit: Yes . Kermit 95 for Windows 95 and NT: No . OS/2 C-Kermit (and soon, Kermit 95 for OS/2): Yes . UNIX C-Kermit: with some trickery, perhaps: Yes : Btw, whats up with Mac Kermit? : It's an orphan. Would anybody like to adopt it? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 8 11:11:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25081 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA26916 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:11:19 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Fast kermit for windows? Date: 8 Feb 1997 16:11:19 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5di8j7$d2f$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <855348198.733@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6556 In article <855348198.733@dejanews.com>, wrote: : anyone know of a communications or terminal program : that allows more than a 100 packet-length in the kermit : file transfer? I am hoping for a package with close to 1000 : or maybe as many as a 3000 recieve packet-length. : Kermit 95 for Windows 95 and NT (and soon OS/2). MS-DOS Kermit for DOS and Windows 3.x. C-Kermit for UNIX, VMS, AOS/VS, Stratus VOS, Commodore Amiga. Kermit-370 for VM/CMS, MVS/TSO, CICS, MUSIC. And many others; in short, real Kermit software from the Kermit Project at Columbia University: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 8 14:17:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28172 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06097 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:17:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!ais.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!serv.hinet.net!netnews.hinet.net!news From: chsu@from.net Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Send 20 FREE Pages of Fax to any Fax machines in the World! Date: 8 Feb 1997 19:13:06 GMT Organization: Fax24 International, Inc. 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(FdcGpT) From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 8 16:48:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27704 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13189 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:48:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <32fcd93d.0@news.cias.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:15:14 GMT Control: cancel <32fcd93d.0@news.cias.net> Message-ID: Sender: xxxhot@* (^$#>(noreply).com) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1790684 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 10 08:55:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07541 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08318 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:55:00 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!192.89.123.24!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!not-for-mail From: Camillo S{rs Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,alt.security,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security,comp.security.unix Subject: Re: ssh (secure shell) with kermit ? Followup-To: comp.security.unix,comp.security.ssh Date: 10 Feb 1997 15:47:14 +0200 Organization: Data Fellows Ltd. Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tinasolttu.cs.hut.fi X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6559 alt.security:43006 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security:1869 comp.security.unix:36587 croten@big.aa.net (Charles Roten) writes: > Secure shell should get the job done, from what I've read in it's > FAQ. But can it be run _securely_, from within _kermit_ .. either > MS-kermit or C-kermit ? Or, of course, from within Kermit-95 ? Depends on what you are trying to do, and on what kinds of systems. However, using the port forwarding facilities, you can run virtually any TCP protocol over SSH, so I think it will fit your needs! Regards, -- Camillo Särs Data Fellows Ltd. 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Date: Mon Feb 10 17:25:20 1997 Original subject was: CD`R Media for Sale From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 11 11:57:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27403 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14515 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:57:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!cmg From: cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Christine Gianone) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing Kermit 95 1.1.11 for Windows 95 and NT Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:57:27 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5dq8dn$g1b$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6561 Version 1.1.11 of Kermit 95 for Windows 95 and Windows NT is now available as a patch to versions 1.1.7, 1.1.8, 1.1.9, or 1.1.10. This release includes a few minor changes from 1.1.10: . A couple minor bugs fixed. . Data General D217 terminal emulation added (with printer support). . Megahertz Xjack and "generic-high-speed" modem types added. . An improved version of K95CINIT (for PCMCIA and Plug-n-Play modems). Plus some new commands allowing greater flexibility in configuring your Kermit and ZMODEM downloads -- especially when they might conflict with the type of terminal you are emulating (especially DG and Wyse). Version 1.1.11 is also the first release of Kermit 95 that is available for IBM's OS/2 operating system -- which is the main reason for this release. The OS/2 announcement will be posted separately. HOW TO GET IT The new Windows 95/NT release is available as a patch to version 1.1.10 or earlier. Current registered users of Kermit 95 can download the 1.1.10 upgrade patch from our BBS or from our ftp site: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/k95/patches/ or on the Web: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95patch.html All the new features are documented in the updated UPDATES.TXT file that comes in the patch, and in the updated BUGS.TXT file. (By the way, note that all .DOC files have been renamed to .TXT, to avoid improper association with Microsoft Word.) Please send reports of any difficulty with the patches by email to: kermit-support@columbia.edu Christine M. Gianone Manager The Kermit Project Columbia University From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 11 15:02:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07956 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23485 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:02:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!cmg From: cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Christine Gianone) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing Kermit 95 for OS/2 Date: 11 Feb 1997 20:02:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5dqj8e$qpj$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6562 This is to announce Kermit 95, full-function 32-bit serial and network communications software for IBM OS/2 2.0 and later, including Warp and Merlin. This is a brand new product: The native OS/2 version of Kermit 95, which up till now has been available only for Windows 95 and NT. Kermit 95 1.1.11 for OS/2, or "Kermit/2" for short, includes a full-GUI Presentation Manager Dialer to set up your connections, with a database preloaded with hundreds of BBSs, Internet sites, etc, and: . A large repertoire of terminal emulations . Integrated Kermit and XYZMODEM file transfer . A powerful cross-platform script programming language . Built-in automatic translation of Roman, Cyrillic, Hebrew, and other character sets All in a consistent package that operates uniformly over direct or dialed serial connections, TCP/IP Telnet or Rlogin connections, PATHWORKS, Named Pipes, or NETBIOS connections, and compatibly with Kermit software for DOS, Windows, UNIX, VMS, IBM Mainframes, and many other platforms. Kermit 95 for OS/2 is miles ahead of the last C-Kermit release for OS/2, 5A(191), from April 1995: C-Kermit 5A(191) Kermit/2 1.1.11 Terminal emulations: 6 26 Built-in modem types: 28 47 Graphical dialer and database: No Yes Intelligent dialing: No Yes Portable dialing directory: No Yes High-speed modem support: No Yes Integrated XYZMODEM protocol: No Yes Auto-up/download: No Yes Host mode: No Yes Rlogin client: No Yes Block structure for scripts: No Yes And lots more, including significant improvements in just about every area. Full specifications, licensing, and ordering information can found at the Kermit 95 Web site: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Christine M. Gianone Manager The Kermit Project Columbia University From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 11 15:08:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08989 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23747 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:08:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!cmg From: cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Christine Gianone) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit Beta 17 Date: 11 Feb 1997 20:08:41 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5dqjk9$rf9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6563 MS-DOS Kermit Beta 17 is now available for testing. Bugs fixed since last time are: . A TAKE file once opened was never closed. . Macro argument variables, \%0..\%9, were not removed after the last nested macro exited and thus collided with possible non-macro use of the same variable names. . A harmless message occurred if a macro expected several arguments and fewer were provided on the invocation line. . A correction for Data General terminal emulation to clear video attributes adversely affected VTxxx emulations, leading to unwanted underlining, etc, after an erasure operation (only in Beta 16). . SET KEY definitions involving a macro name were not parsed properly in a few annoying cases. And the following new feature was added: . New variable \v(filespec) shows the filename pattern most recently used for sending or receiving files. It may contain wild cards and paths, depending on what the user typed. MSK315.EXE and MSK315.DOC are in the MSK315.ZIP file at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Put it in your regular MS-DOS Kermit directory, unzip it, and run MSK315.EXE instead of KERMIT.EXE. Read MSK315.DOC for documentation of changes since version 3.14. Thanks, as always, to Professor Joe Doupnik of Utah State University. Send any problem reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. /Christine From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 11 15:39:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15932 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25125 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:39:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Testing - please ignore Date: 11 Feb 1997 20:39:28 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 2 Message-ID: <5dqle0$81$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6564 Some trouble posting here... Checking to see if it's fixed now. From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 11 15:45:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17154 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25457 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:45:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Chris Kunath" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 for OS/2 == K95 for win95? Date: 11 Feb 1997 20:45:10 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.161.212 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6565 Do I understand correctly that the K95 v1.1.11 patch for my K95 for Win95 will allow me to install the product under OS/2? I've got this honkin' big disk all tricked out with System Commander that'll let me choose between booting win95, MS-DOS, NT, OS/2, FreeBSD, etc. Can I use my K95-Win95 install disks under OS/2 Warp4, then patch the install to run under OS/2, or is the OS/2-K95 product a different set of executables? From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 11 16:39:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27835 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:39:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27967 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:39:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 for OS/2 == K95 for win95? Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:39:27 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6566 In article <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com>, Chris Kunath wrote: : Do I understand correctly that the K95 v1.1.11 patch for my : K95 for Win95 will allow me to install the product under OS/2? : No, it will not. The OS/2 version is a totally separate product. It must be purchased and licensed separately, as indicated on the Web pages. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 12 20:52:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14054 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA05037 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:52:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!UZS106 From: UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 02:32:59 MEZ Organization: RHRZ Uni-Bonn Lines: 19 Message-ID: <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5dfiek$1b1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <17B0F2F3DS85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6567 In article <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: >: winsock dialin scripts. Joe Doupnik has a etherppp distribution >: with a dialinscript somewhere in kermit.columbia.edu. I am looking >: for something like this dialinscript for kermit, that I dont >: have to enter my username and passwort and the "slip" command by hand. >: >Oh, you want Kermit to be a SLIP or PPP dialer. OK, simple answer: > > . MS-DOS Kermit: Yes Yes, thanks! But how can I make Kermit to read input from the terminal- server? Or write output into the terminalservers prompt? Well, maybe I should reread the FM, but it doesnt work in connect mode for me. output bla doesnt go where it should. Nor can I read input. There must be some secrets I havent dug yet. Desperately seeking the solution:)) Heiko From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 06:45:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01069 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 06:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18318 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 06:45:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-chi-13.sprintlink.net!news2.ee.net!news1.ee.net!usenet From: Gene Hennessy Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MAKE MONEY Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:05:16 -0500 Organization: eNET Inc. 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From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 09:01:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07105 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA24862 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:01:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!hammer.msfc.nasa.gov!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,control From: news@HAMMER.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <3302AF1C.44A9@greenapple.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3302AF1C.44A9@greenapple.com> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@HAMMER.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:44:48 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: a X-Cancel-Xref: 75619 X-Orig-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:05:16 -0500 Sender: Gene Hennessy X-Orig-Subject: MAKE MONEY Lines: 11 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1882159 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 11:43:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06974 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03122 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:43:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: 13 Feb 1997 16:43:40 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5dvgbs$9ka$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <17B0F2F3DS85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6569 In article <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>, wrote: : In article <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: : > . MS-DOS Kermit: Yes : : Yes, thanks! But how can I make Kermit to read input from the terminal- : server? : SET PORT to the correct port. Set the other parameters correctly (speed, flow control, etc), then use INPUT and OUTPUT. : Or write output into the terminalservers prompt? Well, maybe I : should reread the FM, but it doesnt work in connect mode for me. : Then you've got a basic connectivity problem. Make sure you are using the right port and the right speed with the right settings. All this is explained in the manual too. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 12:55:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21662 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06606 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:55:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!cwix!uunet!in2.uu.net!199.172.136.10!news.ieee.org!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!boingo.amil.jhu.edu!news.jhu.edu!news From: murthy@eta.pha.jhu.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 for OS/2 == K95 for win95? Date: 13 Feb 1997 13:40:04 GMT Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dv5jk$b6s@news.jhu.edu> References: <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com> <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: murthy@eta.pha.jhu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.26.213 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6570 In <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: >In article <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com>, >Chris Kunath wrote: >: Do I understand correctly that the K95 v1.1.11 patch for my >: K95 for Win95 will allow me to install the product under OS/2? >: >No, it will not. The OS/2 version is a totally separate product. >It must be purchased and licensed separately, as indicated on the >Web pages. > >- Frank What I did not understand is why I should upgrade from CKermit (191). The post from Christine had a lot of information but all I use kermit for is to telnet into different unix machines. It did not seem to me that a PM dialer is worth the cost. Please correct me if there are other advantages I'm missing. Thanks, Jayant Jayant murthy@pha.jhu.edu From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 13:04:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23782 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07060 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:04:46 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 for OS/2 == K95 for win95? Date: 13 Feb 1997 18:04:42 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5dvl3q$efi$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com> <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5dv5jk$b6s@news.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6571 In article <5dv5jk$b6s@news.jhu.edu>, wrote: : In <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, : fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: : >In article <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com>, : >Chris Kunath wrote: : >: Do I understand correctly that the K95 v1.1.11 patch for my : >: K95 for Win95 will allow me to install the product under OS/2? : >: : >No, it will not. The OS/2 version is a totally separate product. : >It must be purchased and licensed separately, as indicated on the : >Web pages. : > : What I did not understand is why I should upgrade from CKermit (191). : The post from Christine had a lot of information but all I use kermit : for is to telnet into different unix machines. : : It did not seem to me that a PM dialer is worth the cost. Please correct : me if there are other advantages I'm missing. : You'll have to decide that for yourself. The features of Kermit 95 are listed on the Web page: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html Maybe you will see features there that you wish OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) had. Aside from all the additional emulations, the massively improved key mapping, etc, there is the new-and-improved script programming language and a new manual that explains it (and a lot more). Approximately two solid years of work have gone into this software since 5A(191) was announced. It does more, it's more flexible and configurable, it's easier to use, etc etc, but most of all -- it is now the only supported Kermit software for OS/2. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 13:18:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26488 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07763 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:18:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 for OS/2 == K95 for win95? Date: 13 Feb 1997 18:18:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 81 Message-ID: <5dvlt6$fbk$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com> <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5dv5jk$b6s@news.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6572 In article <5dv5jk$b6s@news.jhu.edu>, wrote: : In <5dqouf$3lc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: : >In article <01bc185c$70aa5440$d4a192cf@shade.hnv.com>, : >Chris Kunath wrote: : >: Do I understand correctly that the K95 v1.1.11 patch for my : >: K95 for Win95 will allow me to install the product under OS/2? : >: : >No, it will not. The OS/2 version is a totally separate product. : >It must be purchased and licensed separately, as indicated on the : >Web pages. : > : >- Frank : : What I did not understand is why I should upgrade from CKermit (191). : The post from Christine had a lot of information but all I use kermit for is : to telnet into different unix machines. : : It did not seem to me that a PM dialer is worth the cost. Please correct me : if there are other advantages I'm missing. Kermit-95 adds support for a large number of missing functions in the VT220 emulation. And adds VT320, SCOANSI (for linux, SCO products), AT386, Wyse, Televideo, Hewlett-Packard, Data General, and other emulations. It adds support for automatic recognition of Kermit and Zmodem file transfers and will auto-start transfers on the host from Kermit to the host. Additional TELNET protocols have been added including true Terminal Type negotiation (5a(191) negotiated the name but didn't actually change the emulation) and transmission of TELNET ENVIRONMENT variables (USER, PRINTER, SYSTEM, ...). Rlogin support has been added. Provides auto terminal size notifications on many systems that don't support TELNET NAWS. New capabilities to adjust the TCP stack (send/receive buffer size, Linger, Nagle, and Keepalives) which are not possible any other way. Scrollback buffers now support Bookmarks and Search capabilities. The script language and file transfer are now at the C-Kermit 6.0 level. The keyboard support has been completely redone. There are now over 300 Keyboard verbs. All key combinations may be assigned distinct commands. All keymaps are now built-in. There is a special Emacs keyboard mode for those who miss the Meta key. Completely rewritten DIAL command and modem database that is as powerful as Microsoft's TAPI. Lots of miscellaneous changes: . The emulator now supports real blinking in all emulations. . The status line is host controllable. . Margin bell support. . Much more that I can't even think of. And, of course, a completely rewritten copy of "Using C-Kermit" which no user of C-Kermit should be without. There are lots of improvements throughout the product. Many of which are subtle. But they are there. Kermit-95 for OS/2 comes with our superb technical support. You know how good C-Kermit 5a(191) was when I was working on it as a hobby. Just image how good it is now that it supported as a commercial product. Kermit-95 for OS/2 has been in development ever since C-Kermit 5a(191) was released. It is only just now that we have been able to find a means to release it. Purchase Kermit-95 for OS/2, you won't be disappointed. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 18:23:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26853 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22357 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:23:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: ken@halcyon.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:56:09 GMT Organization: none Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5e0669$p4i$1@brokaw.wa.com> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5dvgbs$9ka$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chinook.halcyon.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6573 In article <5dvgbs$9ka$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: >Then you've got a basic connectivity problem. Make sure you are using the >right port and the right speed with the right settings. ...and the right cabling. (I.e., with or without a null modem, as appropriate to your hardware setup.) --Ken Pizzini From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 19:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04860 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24495 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:05:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.ums.edu!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!usenet@news.umbc.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Timothy A. Meushaw) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Date: 13 Feb 1997 04:30:12 GMT Organization: The Nanticoke Center Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu NNTP-Posting-User: tmeush1 X-Newsreader: TRN 1.97 w/NNTP (beta) for OS/2 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6574 comp.os.os2.comm:11555 I'm using, or attempting to use, C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2. I recently upgraded my system from Warp 3.0 to 4.0. After I did this I noticed that C-Kermit would sporadically cause my system to lock. While telnetting to a Unix host, sometimes if I pressed Cntl-C in that window then the entire operating system would freeze to the point that even Cntl-Alt-Del wouldn't do anything. I know it's possible to use this setup without problems, as a) I had no problems with 3.0, b) I had no problems with an earlier version of 4.0, and c) A roommate of mine has this same setup without problems (though he might have had one occurance of it earlier today; he isn't sure what caused his system to lock but he thinks it was the problem with Kermit that I've been having). Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd hate to have to reinstall the operating system, but I can't go on using OS/2's telnet client much longer and C-Kermit is too unstable right now! Thanks in advance for your help. Tim Meushaw tmeush1@umbc.edu http://umbc.edu/~tmeush1/ Member, Team OS/2 From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 19:17:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06607 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA25037 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:17:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Date: 14 Feb 1997 00:17:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6575 comp.os.os2.comm:11556 In article <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu>, Timothy A. Meushaw wrote: : I'm using, or attempting to use, C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2. I : recently upgraded my system from Warp 3.0 to 4.0. After I did this I : noticed that C-Kermit would sporadically cause my system to lock. : While telnetting to a Unix host, sometimes if I pressed Cntl-C in that : window then the entire operating system would freeze to the point that : even Cntl-Alt-Del wouldn't do anything. I know it's possible to use : this setup without problems, as a) I had no problems with 3.0, b) I : had no problems with an earlier version of 4.0, and c) A roommate of : mine has this same setup without problems (though he might have had : one occurance of it earlier today; he isn't sure what caused his : system to lock but he thinks it was the problem with Kermit that I've : been having). Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd hate to have to : reinstall the operating system, but I can't go on using OS/2's telnet : client much longer and C-Kermit is too unstable right now! Thanks in : advance for your help. : When I said earlier today that OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) was not supported any more now that Kermit 95 for OS/2 has been released, that was not supposed to make time bombs go off in the old version :-) Seriously, it's hard to imagine what the specific trouble might be, but obviously it's tied to Warp 4.0. It's worth noting that: 1. OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) predates Warp 4.0, and was not written for it, nor tested under it during development, obviously, whereas Kermit 95 for OS/2 *was* developed and tested under Warp 4.0 (and 3.0, as well as earlier OS/2 versions). 2. Although OS/2 C-Kermit was pretty solid, it was not without bugs, all known examples of which have been fixed in the new release. If IBM introduced features into Warp 4.0 that broke C-Kermit 5A(191), it certainly is not for lack of opportunity for them test it first -- that version of Kermit was distributed by IBM itself on the OS/2 Developer CD. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 21:10:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23491 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00332 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:09:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Date: 14 Feb 1997 02:09:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5e0hhd$dug$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6576 comp.os.os2.comm:11557 In article <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: : In article <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu>, : Timothy A. Meushaw wrote: : When I said earlier today that OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) was not supported : any more now that Kermit 95 for OS/2 has been released, that was not : supposed to make time bombs go off in the old version :-) : : Seriously, it's hard to imagine what the specific trouble might be, but : obviously it's tied to Warp 4.0. It's worth noting that: : : 1. OS/2 C-Kermit 5A(191) predates Warp 4.0, and was not written for it, : nor tested under it during development, obviously, whereas Kermit 95 : for OS/2 *was* developed and tested under Warp 4.0 (and 3.0, as well : as earlier OS/2 versions). : : 2. Although OS/2 C-Kermit was pretty solid, it was not without bugs, all : known examples of which have been fixed in the new release. : : If IBM introduced features into Warp 4.0 that broke C-Kermit 5A(191), it : certainly is not for lack of opportunity for them test it first -- that : version of Kermit was distributed by IBM itself on the OS/2 Developer CD. It should also be noted that Warp 4.0 was released in a rather unstable state. The first Service Pack for Warp 4.0 is about to be released and may stablize your system. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 13 22:41:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05981 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04834 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 22:41:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!140.142.64.3!news.u.washington.edu!u.washington.edu!apardoe From: "Andrew J. Pardoe" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 17:07:27 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: neko.dental.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> X-X-Sender: apardoe@mailer5.u.washington.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6577 comp.os.os2.comm:11559 FWIW, I've been using the new Kermit/2 (or Kermit 95 for OS/2, whatever) for quite a few months now and have never experienced any lockups at all. During the betas I got a couple of traps but K2 never stopped the OS. (I've had no problems since the release code, BTW.) You may consider upgrading: it's an entirely new product so the behaviour at that level could be quite different. 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(RnMHpE) From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 04:24:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27731 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA18391 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:24:01 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux2.cso.uiuc.edu!shair From: rmshair@uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:23:02 GMT Organization: Bob Shair Consulting Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5e1atm$lo2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Originator: shair@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6579 comp.os.os2.comm:11564 tmeush1@umbc.edu (Timothy A. Meushaw) writes: >I'm using, or attempting to use, C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2. I >recently upgraded my system from Warp 3.0 to 4.0. After I did this I >noticed that C-Kermit would sporadically cause my system to lock. I'm also running C-Kermit 5A(191) on Warp 4, and haven't seen this problem. Most of my Kermit use is dial-up, though. -- Bob Shair Open Systems Consultant 1018 W. Springfield Avenue rmshair@uiuc.edu Champaign, IL 61821 217/356-2684 < Not employed by or representing the University of Illinois > From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 05:10:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03298 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 05:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20322 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 05:10:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel Date: 14 Feb 1997 05:59:37 GMT Control: cancel Message-ID: Sender: scanning@XXX1324noreply.com (Cyber Services) X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1901964 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 08:14:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07519 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17276 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:14:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ha2.ntr.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.177.184.15!everest.iserv.net!news From: mjordan@i386.jordan.org (Mark J. Jordan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Binary script files? Date: 14 Feb 1997 08:01:58 -0500 Organization: A Red Hat Commercial Linux Site Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org> Reply-To: mjordan@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: gr-max3-11.iserv.net X-Newsreader: NewsWerthy 2.20 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6580 I have experienced other comm programs in the past, most notably Procomm Plus, that will allow script files to be translated into a binary file. This presented two, if not other, benefits: security of the script code and faster execution. I am interested to know if binary scripts are/will be a possibility for Kermit... I am curious mostly for the former capability of hiding the code. Thanks in advance for the comments. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark J. Jordan, President Par Computer Solutions, Grand Rapids, MI mjordan@mail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 09:52:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22539 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:52:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22275 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:52:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!not-for-mail From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Binary script files? Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:52:51 -0500 Organization: Columbia University Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5e1u83$m06@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6581 In article <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org>, Mark J. Jordan wrote: : I have experienced other comm programs in the past, most notably : Procomm Plus, that will allow script files to be translated into a : binary file. This presented two, if not other, benefits: security of : the script code and faster execution. : Faster execution -- marginally, perhaps. Some day when we have nothing else to do, we might devote some time to producing a "compiler" for Kermit scripts -- but there are about 1000 other priorities that are higher, as you see by reading this newsgroup each day :-) Security -- this type of security is only illusory: "security through obscurity". Anybody with the time and inclination to defeat it can do so easily. : I am interested to know if binary scripts are/will be a possibility : for Kermit... I am curious mostly for the former capability of hiding : the code. : Which Kermit are you referring to? In many OS's, e.g. UNIX, it is a rather simple matter to encrypt your script, and then invoke it from a shell script that prompts you for the key and then feeds it to Kermit. I assume you are concerned about keeping passwords online -- always a risky business. "Using C-Kermit" discusses this topic at some length. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 10:39:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02007 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA24585 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:39:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!forest!pcoen From: pcoen@forest.drew.edu (Paul Coen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Message-ID: <1997Feb14.093236.155120@forest> Date: 14 Feb 97 09:32:36 EST References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> <5e1atm$lo2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Drew University Academic Technology Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6582 comp.os.os2.comm:11567 In article <5e1atm$lo2@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, rmshair@uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) writes: > tmeush1@umbc.edu (Timothy A. Meushaw) writes: > >>I'm using, or attempting to use, C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2. I >>recently upgraded my system from Warp 3.0 to 4.0. After I did this I >>noticed that C-Kermit would sporadically cause my system to lock. > > I'm also running C-Kermit 5A(191) on Warp 4, and haven't seen this > problem. Most of my Kermit use is dial-up, though. I'm running it on three different machines, two networked and one dial -- no problems to report here. C-Kermit 5A(191) runs nicely. In fact, one or two goofy problems I was having under Warp 3 (trying to select text with the mouse using Kermit's mouse support would sometimes freeze up that window) have vanished. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 14:55:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23193 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06980 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:55:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu!isc124-34.ucsb.edu!user From: orion@webbing.com (Julianne Reich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MAC dial strings How Long?? Date: 14 Feb 1997 19:29:20 GMT Organization: UCSB Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: isc124-34.ucsb.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6583 How long can a dial script (ie ATDT1800XXXXXXX...) be? I have a user that need to put in 41 characters to dial remotely. Julianne Reich University of California Santa Barbara From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 14:59:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23653 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07157 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:59:00 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Message-ID: <1997Feb14.114416.93906@cc.usu.edu> Date: 14 Feb 97 11:44:16 MDT References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6584 In article <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>, UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de writes: > In article <5di8fc$cqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> > fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > >>: winsock dialin scripts. Joe Doupnik has a etherppp distribution >>: with a dialinscript somewhere in kermit.columbia.edu. I am looking >>: for something like this dialinscript for kermit, that I dont >>: have to enter my username and passwort and the "slip" command by hand. >>: >>Oh, you want Kermit to be a SLIP or PPP dialer. OK, simple answer: >> >> . MS-DOS Kermit: Yes > > Yes, thanks! But how can I make Kermit to read input from the terminal- > server? Or write output into the terminalservers prompt? Well, maybe I > should reread the FM, but it doesnt work in connect mode for me. > output bla doesnt go where it should. Nor can I read input. There must > be some secrets I havent dug yet. > > Desperately seeking the solution:)) Heiko ------------ Scripts don't run in Connect mode. They run at the Kermit prompt level. This and a great deal more is fully explained in the user's manual, the book "Using MS-DOS Kermit". Please type HELP at the MSK prompt for book details. There are tonnes of sample scripts, with extensive discussion. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 15:38:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04045 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09072 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:38:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MAC dial strings How Long?? Date: 14 Feb 1997 20:38:52 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5e2igs$77l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6585 In article , Julianne Reich wrote: : How long can a dial script (ie ATDT1800XXXXXXX...) be? I have a user that : need to put in 41 characters to dial remotely. : That depends on the modem. Many modems have a limit of 40 characters. Try something like this: atdt; atdt Note the semicolon after the first ATDT command. See your modem manual for details. Also, C-Kermit and Kermit 95 users can see the discussion of this topic (multistage dialing) on pages 72-73 of "Using C-Kermit", 2nd edition. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 16:03:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08293 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10192 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:03:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.gw.com!news.deshaw.com!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net!not-for-mail From: rrs0059@ibm.net (Frank McKenney) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Followup-To: comp.os.os2.comm Date: 14 Feb 1997 20:45:45 GMT Organization: McKenney Associates Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5e2itp$1e96$5@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5e0hhd$dug$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: (Frank McKenney) NNTP-Posting-Host: slip166-72-3-220.il.us.ibm.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6586 comp.os.os2.comm:11568 * followups directed to comp.os.os2.comm * In <5e0hhd$dug$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) writes: >In article <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, >It should also be noted that Warp 4.0 was released in a rather >unstable state. The first Service Pack for Warp 4.0 is about to be >released and may stablize your system. > Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 > The Kermit Project * Columbia University > 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu Jeffrey, That's a rather broad and sweeping generalization, made for no apparent reason. It comes across as something posted without much thought. which is disappointing coming from someone whose title indicates that he might be a data processing professional. Based on my own experiences and those of others, I'd say that "rather unstable" is an inaccurate representation of its released state. This is not to say that some users haven't experienced problems with Warp 4... or Warp 3, or Kermit, or MSWin95, or any piece of software. But a software professional is expected to know and understand the meaning of terms such as "unstable", and how to use them correctly. This endeth the language lesson for the day... Frank McKenney / OS/2 Advisor (OS2BBS) McKenney Associates / Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 Internet: rrs0059@ibm.net / TalkLink: WZ01123 From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 16:28:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12529 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11398 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:28:16 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Apologies Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:28:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5e2ldd$a58$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6588 My personal apologies for the disgusting kinds of messages that are being posted on this newsgroup. Kermit software users should be able to participate in discussions about Kermit protocol, software, data communications, and so on, without being subjected to a constant assault of get-rich-quick schemes, chain letters, and now child pornography and solicitation. Remember what happened to CB radio 20 years ago? It's happening now to the Internet on an unimaginable scale. Sadly, I believe it's only going to get worse. The Law of Large Numbers in action -- welcome to the "global village". - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 17:14:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22482 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13640 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:14:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 Beta 18 Date: 14 Feb 1997 22:14:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5e2o46$d3q$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6589 Getting closer... Corrections: . Long-standing bug of being unable to delete characters via CSI P within four columns of the left margin while in 132-column video mode. . Bug introduced into Beta 17 while adding \f(filespec). This forced the requested filename pattern to be prepended as a path to individual filenames of an incoming GET request, resulting in failure to find the requested files. Changes: . Modify the VT100 terminal ident from very long standing vanilla ESC ? 1 c to be ESC ? 1; 0 c to satisfy some string matching style remote programs. Similarly use ESC ? 6; 0 c for VT102. Thanks, as always, to Joe D. Find this Beta in the usual place: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Reports to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 19:42:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17249 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20815 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:42:37 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: OS/2 Specific DOS and MS-DOS Kermit X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:15:18 GMT Lines: 30 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6590 With all the talk of Kermit-95, my question may seem a bit quaint, but I'm just exploring OS/2 right now, so here goes. I have successfully run MS-DOS Kermit from full screen DOS sessions under OS/2. When booting 'Specific DOS' versions from a bootable DOS disk, when I boot MS-DOS Kermit, it gives a message: ?Warning: unknown hardware for port. Using Bios as BIOS4. Unimplimented Speed. Then when trying to dial: Unimplimented speed ^E^E^E.......... ............. ^E^E^E^E^E^E^E^E^^E^E^ Unimplimented Speed Configuring Zoom Telephonics 14400 bps modem on BIOS4 Can't get modem's attention. Is there some trick around this problem, or is it just a limitation of booting DOS from inside OS/2? Thanks for any help, (and sorry if this is covered in some documentation somewhere, I just couldn't find it.) Regards, Dallas E. Legan 562.862.4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 20:14:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20087 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22223 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:14:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.be.com!news1.crl.com!nexp.crl.com!crl.crl.com!not-for-mail From: randyd@crl.com (Randy Ding) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MAC dial strings How Long?? Date: 14 Feb 1997 16:59:29 -0800 Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5e31ph$d86@crl.crl.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: crl.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6591 In article , Julianne Reich wrote: >How long can a dial script (ie ATDT1800XXXXXXX...) be? I have a user that >need to put in 41 characters to dial remotely. > >Julianne Reich >University of California Santa Barbara My modem has a command line limit of 40 including AT. Other modems have different specifications.. It usually says in the first page of the AT Commands reference in your modem book. Try breaking it up like this.. ATDT1,800,1234567; ATDT,,1234567890; ATDT987654321 The ; returns you to command mode after dialing. Note the last line has no ;. Randy. randyd@lse.fullfeed.com http://www.lse.fullfeed.com/~randyd From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 21:11:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26716 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24904 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:11:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!UZS106 From: UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit Dialinscript ?? Date: Sat, 15 Feb 97 02:40:39 MEZ Organization: RHRZ Uni-Bonn Lines: 21 Message-ID: <17B1625ACS85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <17B0E40A8S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <17B1423E1S85.UZS106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <1997Feb14.114416.93906@cc.usu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6592 In article <1997Feb14.114416.93906@cc.usu.edu> jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) writes: >> should reread the FM, but it doesnt work in connect mode for me. > Scripts don't run in Connect mode. They run at the Kermit prompt Ah, sorry for my poor english. >level. This and a great deal more is fully explained in the user's manual, I think the commands are explained also in one of the kermit.doc files. Maybe I find the trick in the library or in the friendly bookshop. They have a german version, but I am not a programmer, I had kermit when I started the Internet with modem and cisco unix tn3270, no slip. With the files slightly modified by the university staff. Since I have slip, I do it with CUTE/CUTCP tn3270, much easier. I can live with my dial.bat (kermit dial number,c) and do a manual login. Thanks, Heiko From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 14 22:35:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07905 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28887 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:35:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!brennan From: cruel@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <13.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Control: cancel <13.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 15 Feb 1997 03:35:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 1 Approved: postmaster@columbia.edu Message-ID: <5e3at8$28d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Originator: brennan@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:1917452 Spam cancel From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 04:41:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02976 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 04:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA13187 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 04:41:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!info.uah.edu!hubcap.clemson.edu!usenet From: John Little Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Financial Aid Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 03:39:07 -0600 Organization: Clemson University Lines: 93 Message-ID: <3305843B.76C1@clemson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: holmes22514.resnet.clemson.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6593 If you are reading this now, you, like me, are badly in need of money. 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Others who, like you, are in need of money, will read your message, just as you are reading this one, and decide that they need the extra cash. They will send you their one dollar bill, and repost the message, making the same changes you did. You will still be on the list as #4. Someone will read their message, send money to everyone on the list, including you, and post another message, making the changes. You will still be on the list as #3. This will continue until you are off the list, but by the time you are off the list, AT LEAST five people will send you money. There's the five dollars you sent. I cannot confirm them, but there are continuous statements about how people have made hundreds, thousands, and even tens of thousands of dollars with this plan. Remember, the more places you put this, the more money you make. Does this seem unreasonable? It shouldn't. There are millions of people in the United States just like you, who need money, and are looking for a solution. Thousands of people are getting on the internet for the first time, every day, and each of them wants to make money. Is it so unbelievable that they, like you, will follow this plan, hoping for a big return? At most, it will cost you ten dollars: one dollar for each person, and five for the pen, stamps, and envelopes. Is it impossible for you to imagine there are ten people somewhere in America who want to make money? If there are, then you've only lost a little time. But in fact, there are MILLIONS of people who NEED the money, and they are looking for ANY chance to make some. You will more than make up for any time or money you spend. Is this program illegal? No. There's nothing illegal, or even shady, about this. Do you want proof? 1. The inclusion of the message "Add my name to your list." makes this a service, just like any TV advertisement or 1-900 number. Are those illegal? 2. Does the federal government police the internet? No. Do they open your mail? No. THAT would be illegal. 3. If this were illegal, do you really think I'd be dumb enough to give the police my address? Please, support this program. There is the potential for both you and I to make a LOT of money together. Thank you. From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 07:12:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02491 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA08382 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:12:38 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.os2.comm Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!sun4nl!echelon!kees From: kees@echelon.nl (Kees Hendrikse) Subject: Re: Problem with OS/2 Warp 4.0 and C-kermit Organization: Echelon Consultancy, Enschede, The Netherlands Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:02:18 GMT Message-ID: References: <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu> <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Lines: 24 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6594 comp.os.os2.comm:11583 In <5e0av1$7r3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> (Frank da Cruz) writes: > In article <5du5ck$vlu@news.umbc.edu>, > Timothy A. Meushaw wrote: > : I'm using, or attempting to use, C-Kermit 5A(191) for OS/2. I > : recently upgraded my system from Warp 3.0 to 4.0. After I did this I > : noticed that C-Kermit would sporadically cause my system to lock. (..) > Seriously, it's hard to imagine what the specific trouble might be, but > obviously it's tied to Warp 4.0. I think it's tied to Timothy's specific configuration. Kermit-191 runs as well on Merlin as it does on Warp/3. In fact, because of fixes in the OS/2 TCP/IP stack, it runs even smoother than before. If I experienced hard hangs when using Kermit, the first thing to go after would be the NIC-driver and ODI and/or NDIS setup. -- Kees Hendrikse | email: kees@echelon.nl | ECHELON consultancy and software development | phone: +31 (0)53 48 36 585 PO Box 545, 7500AM Enschede, The Netherlands | fax: +31 (0)53 43 37 415 From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 07:44:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06559 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA09804 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:44:01 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!sun4nl!echelon!kees From: kees@echelon.nl (Kees Hendrikse) Subject: Re: OS/2 Specific DOS and MS-DOS Kermit Organization: Echelon Consultancy, Enschede, The Netherlands Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:10:36 GMT Message-ID: References: <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> Lines: 25 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6595 In <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: > When booting 'Specific DOS' versions from a bootable DOS disk, > when I boot MS-DOS Kermit, it gives a message: > > ?Warning: unknown hardware for port. Using Bios as BIOS4. > > Is there some trick around this problem, or is it > just a limitation of booting DOS from inside OS/2? Even if you boot a specific DOS from a floppy or a diskimage, you still have to go through OS/2 layers to reach the hardware. Check the settings of the program object and see if COM_DIRECT_ACCESS is enabled. This should give Kermit access to the port you want. If not, try to use the port via the bios: "set port bios 1". Don't expect wonders from this setup. You're trying to run a car without enganging it's engine. Of course, if you push hard enough you will get the thing moving... -- Kees Hendrikse | email: kees@echelon.nl | ECHELON consultancy and software development | phone: +31 (0)53 48 36 585 PO Box 545, 7500AM Enschede, The Netherlands | fax: +31 (0)53 43 37 415 From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 09:24:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16251 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14708 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:24:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!forest!pcoen From: pcoen@forest.drew.edu (Paul Coen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: OS/2 Specific DOS and MS-DOS Kermit Message-ID: <1997Feb15.090805.155151@forest> Date: 15 Feb 97 09:08:05 EST References: <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> Organization: Drew University Academic Technology Lines: 60 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6596 In article , kees@echelon.nl (Kees Hendrikse) writes: > In <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: > >> When booting 'Specific DOS' versions from a bootable DOS disk, >> when I boot MS-DOS Kermit, it gives a message: >> >> ?Warning: unknown hardware for port. Using Bios as BIOS4. >> >> Is there some trick around this problem, or is it >> just a limitation of booting DOS from inside OS/2? > > Even if you boot a specific DOS from a floppy or a diskimage, you still > have to go through OS/2 layers to reach the hardware. Check the settings > of the program object and see if COM_DIRECT_ACCESS is enabled. This should > give Kermit access to the port you want. If not, try to use the port via > the bios: "set port bios 1". > Actually, you shouldn't need to do that. As long as MS-Kermit knows what irq & address to look for a com port as, it'll run without error messages without COM_DIRECT_ACCESS under OS/2. I've done it on versions from OS/2 2.0 and above. Something else is wrong. Something else could be using COM4, but that's unlikely because he didn't report getting an error message in a Presentation Manager window offering recovery choices. My guess is that Com4 (since there really isn't a standard for it) is set to something other than MS-Kermit might expect it to be, or else OS/2 can't see it at all due to the same problem (or a hardware conflict). If the COM port works from OS/2 programs (C-Kermit for OS/2 should be able to use it if the operating system can see it), you need to do a "SET COM4" command (I *think* I'm remembering that correctly) and then give the information on where to find Com4. You can get the information from your CONFIG.SYS file, either in the line where COM.SYS is loaded, or, if you're using the replacement SIO drivers, whatever the name of the device driver is -- I'm drawing a blank. Anyway, write down the irq and base address, and go back to MS-Kermit. Type "set com4 ?" and it'll tell you what the next item it wants is -- type it in, insert a space, and hit "?" again. I can never exactly remember the command syntax -- on the rare occasions I've had to do this I usually use this method for figuring it out. If the COM port isn't visible from OS/2, you're going to need to look up COM.SYS in the online help and find out the syntax for adding port definitions. And you're going to need to know the irq and address for your COM4 (and Com3, for that matter). If this is a plug-and-pray device under Warp 4, you can do "rmview /irq /io /so" at a command prompt to find out where it was actually put by the operating system so you can edit the config.sys file. Again, this error shouldn't be happening if everything is set up correctly. Sorry for the number of "I can't quite remember . . ." above, but some information is at my office, and not overly accessable at the moment. 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Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 11:42:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02946 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21501 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:41:59 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.texoma.net!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!129.91.131.22!news.encore.com!tma From: tma@encore.com (Thanh Ma) Subject: kermit remote access on NT Organization: Encore Computer Corporation Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:59:59 GMT Message-ID: X-Nntp-Posting-Host: edison.encore.com Sender: news@encore.com (Usenet News) Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6597 We plan to have an NT Workstation to connect to a number of unix boxes by means of multi serial port devices, like the digiboard. Can someone ppp into the NT box and be able to kermit to these unix boxes ? I ask because I was told that NT won't allow you to access the PC's peripherals (like the serial ports) remotely ????? If this is the case then do I need an NT Server and/or Back Offices then ? Please advice, Thanks -- Thanh Ma tma@encore.com From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 11:55:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04131 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22266 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:55:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.191.213.61!ott.istar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!tor.istar!east.istar!n4tor.istar!news.cgocable.net!rpotter From: rpotter@cgocable.net (Richard Potter) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Linux compile error Date: 15 Feb 1997 16:46:45 GMT Organization: Re/Max Realty - Kingston Lines: 23 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: king108-94.cgocable.net X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.0 BETA UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6598 Call me stupid, but I can't get going here. I'm running the latest, and greatest Red Hat 4.1 release. I've read the comments in the linux section of the makefile, but no luck. make linux gives the following error: gcc -o wart ckwart.o -lcurses -ltermcap ld: cannot open -lcurses: No such file or directory make [1]: *** [wart] Error 1 make [1]: Leaving directory `/tmp' make : *** [linux] Error 2 Please help. Regards, __ <============ LINUX the choice of the GNU generation ===========> Richard Potter Kingston, ON CANADA http://www.cgocable.net/~rpotter From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 11:58:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04379 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22300 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:58:55 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit remote access on NT Date: 15 Feb 1997 16:58:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5e4q09$1ej$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6599 In article , Thanh Ma wrote: : We plan to have an NT Workstation to connect to a number of unix boxes by means : of multi serial port devices, like the digiboard. Can someone ppp into : the NT box and be able to kermit to these unix boxes ? I ask because I was : told that NT won't allow you to access the PC's peripherals (like the serial : ports) remotely ????? : : If this is the case then do I need an NT Server and/or Back Offices then ? No version of NT allows remote access to the serial device. If you have an IP connection to the NT box, and have installed a Unix like Telnet daemon, you can run Kermit-95 on the NT machine to dial out the serial ports as if you were sitting at the console. However, you cannot use Kermit to transfer data across the Telnet session. You may also setup Kermit-95 on the NT machine to accept incoming IP connections which may be used for file transfer, but those connections may not be used to access the serial ports simultaneously. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 15:07:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26110 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01292 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:07:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!nntp.farm.idt.net!sho From: sho@tannis.sho.net (Sho Nakagama) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Linux compile error Date: 15 Feb 1997 20:04:17 GMT Organization: Sho's World Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: sho@tannis.sho.net NNTP-Posting-Host: village.ios.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.0 BETA UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6600 In article , Richard Potter wrote: > >gcc -o wart ckwart.o -lcurses -ltermcap >ld: cannot open -lcurses: No such file or directory >make [1]: *** [wart] Error 1 >make [1]: Leaving directory `/tmp' >make : *** [linux] Error 2 > Hate to ask the obvious but you never know, do you have the rpms or whatever for ncurses and termcap, the development libraires that is. There seems to be a little disagreement on the size of certain strings on linux and linux, but they dont seem to make any difference. (you don't see this error until the end, obviously you're not getting that far) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- My name is Ariel and I want to be free It is your sorrow that has made a slave of me The day is breaking now, its time to go away I'm so afraid to leave, but more afraid to stay The sky has fallen now, the earth is dry and torn I know you're tired from the violence of the storm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GBH(tm) [your secret society ad here] KoX ARSCC From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 15 23:47:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27279 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA26649 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:47:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!news.nstn.ca!news.dal.ca!chebucto.ns.ca!at484 From: at484@chebucto.ns.ca (David Titus) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: How to redial in 3.13? Date: 16 Feb 1997 04:40:26 GMT Organization: Chebucto Community Net Lines: 5 Message-ID: <5e633q$aum@News.Dal.Ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: chebucto.ns.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6601 Any info appreciated David -- From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 16 18:08:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13037 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA05871 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 18:08:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsgate.nytimes.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: Ken Pizzini Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Linux compile error Date: 16 Feb 1997 22:38:35 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5e829b$puf$1@brokaw.wa.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: chinook.halcyon.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6602 In article , Richard Potter wrote: >gcc -o wart ckwart.o -lcurses -ltermcap >ld: cannot open -lcurses: No such file or directory Check to see if you have the curses library installed: ls -l /usr/lib/*curse* /usr/local/lib/*curse* /lib/*curse* If you get three "No such file or directory" errors then your problem is that you need to install a curses library. If you do get a hit, but it is for a "libncurses.(mumble)" library, fix your makefile to link with -lncurses instead of -lcurses (or add some symbolic links). Otherwise, I'm stumped. --Ken Pizzini From news@columbia.edu Sun Feb 16 19:23:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21530 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09438 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 19:22:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!n4tor.istar!news.cgocable.net!rpotter From: rpotter@cgocable.net (Richard Potter) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Linux compile error Date: 17 Feb 1997 00:17:50 GMT Organization: Re/Max Realty - Kingston Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <5e829b$puf$1@brokaw.wa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: king108-94.cgocable.net X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.0 BETA UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6603 On 16 Feb 1997 22:38:35 GMT, Ken Pizzini wrote: >>gcc -o wart ckwart.o -lcurses -ltermcap >>ld: cannot open -lcurses: No such file or directory >Check to see if you have the curses library installed: > ls -l /usr/lib/*curse* /usr/local/lib/*curse* /lib/*curse* Bingo!! -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 321206 Dec 5 12:24 /usr/lib/libncurses.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Feb 8 03:51 /usr/lib/libncurses.so -> libncurses.so.3.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 244106 Dec 5 12:24 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Feb 8 03:51 /usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.0 -> libncurses.so.1.9.9e >If you get three "No such file or directory" errors then >your problem is that you need to install a curses library. >If you do get a hit, but it is for a "libncurses.(mumble)" >library, fix your makefile to link with -lncurses instead >of -lcurses (or add some symbolic links). Otherwise, I'm >stumped. Thanks Ken..... I chanaged the makefile to -lncurses, and kermit compiled fine. Best Regards, __ <============ LINUX the choice of the GNU generation ===========> Richard Potter Kingston, ON CANADA ** Find me online via: http://www.cgocable.net/~rpotter ** From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 06:06:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24842 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13376 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:05:59 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Re: OS/2 Specific DOS and MS-DOS Kermit X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Feb17.100642.26785@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net References: <1997Feb15.090805.155151@forest> <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:06:42 GMT Lines: 141 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6604 (First, I want to thank the people who responded - no definite answers, yet, but here's my feedback, maybe what I've found can provide a new clue? - DEL) In a previous article, pcoen@forest.drew.edu (Paul Coen) says: >In article , kees@echelon.nl (Kees Hendrikse) writes: >> In <1997Feb14.231518.11060@lafn.org> aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: >> >>> When booting 'Specific DOS' versions from a bootable DOS disk, >>> when I boot MS-DOS Kermit, it gives a message: >>> >>> ?Warning: unknown hardware for port. Using Bios as BIOS4. >>> >>> Is there some trick around this problem, or is it >>> just a limitation of booting DOS from inside OS/2? >> >> Even if you boot a specific DOS from a floppy or a diskimage, you still >> have to go through OS/2 layers to reach the hardware. Check the settings >> of the program object and see if COM_DIRECT_ACCESS is enabled. This should >> give Kermit access to the port you want. If not, try to use the port via >> the bios: "set port bios 1". >> I tried the COM_DIRECT_ACCESS, but it didn't seem to do the trick. I'll recheck, to make sure I didn't add any more complications. Same with set port bios 1 (or rather 'bios 4') > >Actually, you shouldn't need to do that. As long as MS-Kermit knows >what irq & address to look for a com port as, it'll run without >error messages without COM_DIRECT_ACCESS under OS/2. I've done >it on versions from OS/2 2.0 and above. Maybe the IRQ is getting changed? > >Something else is wrong. Something else could be using COM4, but >that's unlikely because he didn't report getting an error message >in a Presentation Manager window offering recovery choices. > >My guess is that Com4 (since there really isn't a standard for it) >is set to something other than MS-Kermit might expect it to be, >or else OS/2 can't see it at all due to the same problem (or a hardware >conflict). > I read over the KERMIT.BWR MS-DOS Kermit documentation file as carefully as possible about use under OS/2. (by the way, it is version 3.0 if that matters any, with a cheap Zoom modem - maybe it is one of the hardware brain dead ones contributing to the problem.) I did the examination with DOS DEBUG, and COM4 seemed to be where it was supposed to be (hex 2e8). >If the COM port works from OS/2 programs (C-Kermit for OS/2 should >be able to use it if the operating system can see it), you need >to do a "SET COM4" command (I *think* I'm remembering that >correctly) and then give the information on where to find Com4. >You can get the information from your CONFIG.SYS file, either >in the line where COM.SYS is loaded, or, if you're using the >replacement SIO drivers, whatever the name of the device driver >is -- I'm drawing a blank. Anyway, write down the irq and >base address, and go back to MS-Kermit. I went back and added to DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS to make it: DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,3F8,4) (4,2E8,3) and even added the DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMDD.SYS which supposedly some software needs (I don't know if I put it in the right position, or even if the location in CONFIG.SYS matters?) and also put in the STARTUP.CMD a line of MODE COM4: 57600 N 8 1 RTS=HS OCTS=ON similar to what was recommended in KERMIT.BWR None of this seemed to help, but maybe I'm overlooking something? > >Type "set com4 ?" and it'll tell you what the next item it wants >is -- type it in, insert a space, and hit "?" again. I can never >exactly remember the command syntax -- on the rare occasions I've >had to do this I usually use this method for figuring it out. > >If the COM port isn't visible from OS/2, you're going to need >to look up COM.SYS in the online help and find out the syntax >for adding port definitions. And you're going to need to know >the irq and address for your COM4 (and Com3, for that matter). >If this is a plug-and-pray device under Warp 4, you can do AAAAAAAAAA-- no, it's not it's 3.0 >"rmview /irq /io /so" at a command prompt to find out where >it was actually put by the operating system so you can edit the >config.sys file. > >Again, this error shouldn't be happening if everything is set up >correctly. Sorry for the number of "I can't quite remember . . ." (That's OK - not only can I not remember, I never knew to begin with ;-) ) >above, but some information is at my office, and not overly >accessable at the moment. > This isn't as pressing as it was, because reading over the documents more, I found settings to make MS-DOS Kermit running in a fullscreen DOS VDM session run a lot perkier then it originally was, and also not to hang - SET TERMINAL TIMESLICE-RELEASE DISABLE and setting HW_TIMER ON this may not be perfect, but it's a lot better then previously. Still, why not the Specific DOS? (I like the COMMAND.COM that I'm using on it) I found that commenting out all COM device drivers in CONFIG.SYS - COM.SYS AND VCOM.SYS (and COMDD.SYS if that matters any) enabled MS-DOS Kermit to run from a Specific DOS session booted from a disk. This seems extremely awkward, but maybe it provides someone more knowledgable about OS/2 a clue as to what will work more smoothly. Somehow, I suspect maybe the VIO.SYS I've seen mentioned might solve it, but I don't know. Again, thanks for the consideration, and sorry for any spelling, grammer, or netiquette violations! Regards, Dallas E. Legan 562.862.4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org aw585@lafn.org From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 10:26:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05833 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11261 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:26:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to redial in 3.13? Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:26:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5e9tbe$b6l$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5e633q$aum@News.Dal.Ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6605 In article <5e633q$aum@News.Dal.Ca>, David Titus wrote: : Any info appreciated : David : Just say "dial xxxx", where xxxx is the phone number. If it doesn't answer, Kermit dials again automatically, up to the limit defined in the modem dialing macro you are using (such as HAYES.SCR) -- usually 5 or 10 times. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 10:34:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09076 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:34:19 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Linux compile error Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:34:17 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5e9tpp$bis$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6606 In article , Richard Potter wrote: : : Call me stupid, but I can't get going here. I'm running the latest, and : greatest Red Hat 4.1 release. I've read the comments in the linux section of : the makefile, but no luck. : : make linux : gives the following error: : : gcc -o wart ckwart.o -lcurses -ltermcap : ld: cannot open -lcurses: No such file or directory : make [1]: *** [wart] Error 1 : make [1]: Leaving directory `/tmp' : make : *** [linux] Error 2 : : Please help. : There is much confusion amongst Linux versions about whether curses, ncurses, or both are installed, and which the default should be, and what it should be called. I asked Linus how he thought this problem should be addressed. He said all Linux systems should have ncurses installed, instead of curses, but for compatibility with all the other UNIX versions in the world, there should be symlinks from from the curses.* to ncurses.*. In other words, applications should be able to refer to it as curses, not ncurses. In the "table of contents" of the makefile, it says: # + for Linux, "make linux" or (to remove TCP/IP) "make linuxnotcp". # For static linking, use "make linuxs". IMPORTANT: Read the comments # that accompany the "linux:" entry. Then when you actually run "make linux", it prints this on your screen: Making C-Kermit $(CKVER) for Linux... IMPORTANT: Read the comments in the linux section of the makefile if you get compilation or link errors. Among the many comments that accompany the Linux entry you will find: # -DCK_CURSES: Here we link with the regular curses library. But you should # be using ncurses. Internally, the ckuusx.c module includes , but # this really should be . Thus if you have the new curses # material, you should either install it with the standard names, or else # create symbolic links from the standard names to the new ones. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 11:32:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20418 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:32:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14585 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:32:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!forest!pcoen From: pcoen@forest.drew.edu (Paul Coen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: OS/2 Specific DOS and MS-DOS Kermit Message-ID: <1997Feb17.103511.155285@forest> Date: 17 Feb 97 10:35:11 EST References: <1997Feb15.090805.155151@forest> <1997Feb17.100642.26785@lafn.org> Organization: Drew University Academic Technology Lines: 55 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6607 In article <1997Feb17.100642.26785@lafn.org>, aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: > I went back and added to > DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS > to make it: > DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,3F8,4) (4,2E8,3) > Okay, that's good -- I'm sure that wasn't helping matters any. However, you're using the same IRQ for COM4 as COM2 -- is anything else using COM2 at the same time? You may need to set COM4 (hardware-wise) to another IRQ and then change the CONFIG.SYS to match. PC devices can't share interrupts, with a few exceptions (Microchannel-based PS/2's from IBM, but even IBM barely makes any MCA machines any longer). Anyway, you may need to tell MS-Kermit where it is, or where you put it. The command is 'SET COM4 \x02e8 \3' (or whatever it actually is). > and even added the > DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMDD.SYS > which supposedly some software needs > (I don't know if I put it in the right position, or > even if the location in CONFIG.SYS matters?) > Order doesn't really matter. > AAAAAAAAAA-- no, it's not > it's 3.0 > RMVIEW should work anyway -- type RMVIEW /? to get the options (I think they added a few switches in 4.0) -- you can get the IRQ out of it, and I think the base address. > Still, why not the Specific DOS? > (I like the COMMAND.COM that I'm using on it) > I found that commenting out all COM device drivers > in CONFIG.SYS - COM.SYS AND VCOM.SYS (and COMDD.SYS if that matters > any) enabled MS-DOS Kermit to run from a > Specific DOS session booted from a disk. > This seems extremely awkward, but maybe it provides someone > more knowledgable about OS/2 a clue as to what will work more > smoothly. Somehow, I suspect maybe the VIO.SYS I've seen > mentioned might solve it, but I don't know. I think you mean "SIO.SYS" -- VIO is the PM API used to deal with text windows. The only problem with a "specific DOS" is that it takes more system overhead. Also, something is just not configured right if you have to do the above to get it to work -- I've been running MS-Kermit since OS/2 2.0 in an OS/2 DOS window with no problems. Anyway, SIO won't help in this situation -- I suspect you'll have the same sort of configuration problem, whatever it is. From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 13:29:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13100 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:29:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20173 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:29:22 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!uucp4.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: Kermit95 1.1.11 telnet reconnect? Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Distribution: na Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:30:57 GMT Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6608 Does K95 1.1.11 do something wierd when restarting a telnet connection? I use trn a lot, and when I escape from trn using alt-X and then hit C to connect, single character commands are no longer executed immediately. This behavior goes away when I exit and restart trn... Thanks! -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 13:41:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16884 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20773 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:41:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit95 1.1.11 telnet reconnect? Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:41:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Distribution: na Message-ID: <5ea8oq$mh2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6609 In article , William Smith wrote: : : Does K95 1.1.11 do something wierd when restarting a telnet : connection? I use trn a lot, and when I escape from trn using alt-X : and then hit C to connect, single character commands are no longer : executed immediately. This behavior goes away when I exit and restart : trn... : The stock answer would be "it doesn't happen here ... we use K95 and trn all the time and don't see this; it must be a coincidence." Really, a failure to transmit keystrokes would be pretty catastrophic and if that were happening I'm sure we'd know it by now, especially since we ourselves are rather heavy users of host applications that use single-key commands, like trn, EMACS, etc. When trn seems to be ignoring single-character commands, it usually means that it's waiting for something from the news server. In cases like this, you often can't even tell whether you have typed a command, and then sometimes type it again just to make sure, which generally does not have the desired effect. If you run trn with the -v switch, commands are verified immediately as soon as trn reads them. In that case, you can tell that K95 is not delaying transmission of the character, but that trn is waiting for something else, most likely the news server. If this is not the correct diagnosis, please get back to us and we'll investigate further. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 14:09:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20938 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22107 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:09:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!news.cc.utah.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Binary script files? Message-ID: <1997Feb16.155829.93967@cc.usu.edu> Date: 16 Feb 97 15:58:29 MDT References: <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6610 In article <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org>, mjordan@i386.jordan.org (Mark J. Jordan) writes: > I have experienced other comm programs in the past, most notably > Procomm Plus, that will allow script files to be translated into a > binary file. This presented two, if not other, benefits: security of > the script code and faster execution. > > I am interested to know if binary scripts are/will be a possibility > for Kermit... I am curious mostly for the former capability of hiding > the code. > > Thanks in advance for the comments. ----------- No, it is slower. Slower because it must be encoded, and then it must be decoded. The assumption you probably have is that reading a script file takes a measurable amount of time compared to performing the actions it states, but that's not true. Programs doing encoding and decoding are also larger than without such a "feature." Security is more subtle than simple encryption, a lot more subtle. Further, encryption is strongly constrained by rules of the US government as well as comprehensive patents on techniques. As a general rule, never trust a piece of equipment to be equivalent of the human user; anyone can operate the equipment. DOS/Windows desktop machines are totally insecure so don't put sensitive material on them unless both physical access to the machine as well as network access to it are secure. Your comms wiring is subject to eavesdropping, not to mention the openness of the remote host. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 14:09:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20958 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:09:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22111 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:09:27 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!uucp1.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: Re: Kermit95 1.1.11 telnet reconnect? Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: Distribution: na Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:43:12 GMT Lines: 7 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6611 I just noticed that my delete key has been mapped to ^? and is nonfunctional after the above... -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 16:19:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11077 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28185 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:19:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit95 1.1.11 telnet reconnect? Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:19:51 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Distribution: na Message-ID: <5eai1n$39j$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6612 In article , William Smith wrote: : : I just noticed that my delete key has been mapped to ^? and is : nonfunctional after the above... : That is supposed to be the default mapping. See the Kermit FAQ: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt If it wasn't mapped this way by default before, then this was probably corrected in a recent edit. In any case, that's just the *default* mapping (which corresponds to a real VT terminal). There are many ways to override the default mapping, the most straightforward being to check the appropriate box on the keyboard page of the Dialer entry for the host in question. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 17 21:24:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01746 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA12785 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:24:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.177.184.15!everest.iserv.net!news From: mjordan@i386.jordan.org (Mark J. Jordan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Binary script files? Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:03:06 -0500 Organization: A Red Hat Commercial Linux Site Lines: 62 Message-ID: <5eb2kq$4s7@i386.jordan.org> References: <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org> <5e1u83$m06@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: mjordan@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: gr-max6-7.iserv.net X-Newsreader: NewsWerthy 2.20 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6613 In <5e1u83$m06@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote: > In article <5e1no6$1rb@i386.jordan.org>, > Mark J. Jordan wrote: > : I have experienced other comm programs in the past, most notably > : Procomm Plus, that will allow script files to be translated into a > : binary file. This presented two, if not other, benefits: security of > : the script code and faster execution. > : > Faster execution -- marginally, perhaps. Some day when we have nothing > else to do, we might devote some time to producing a "compiler" for > Kermit scripts -- but there are about 1000 other priorities that are > higher, as you see by reading this newsgroup each day :-) Absolutely understandable, Frank. > Security -- this type of security is only illusory: "security through > obscurity". Anybody with the time and inclination to defeat it can do > so easily. I understand that nothing is infallible, but even to "obscure" the actual code from general eyes would be beneficial. I am contemplating a project at this time, the detials of which I'll not disclose. But the platforms involved would be many including DOS, Linux, OS/2, Win, and possibly others. Kermit is a perfect element to the overall solution due to its multiplatform existance and the project's needed telecommunication abilities. Because the remote stations will be on client PC's, I wish for them not to be able to easily read such code, and hence my interest. > : I am interested to know if binary scripts are/will be a possibility > : for Kermit... I am curious mostly for the former capability of hiding > : the code. > : > Which Kermit are you referring to? In many OS's, e.g. UNIX, it is a > rather simple matter to encrypt your script, and then invoke it from a > shell script that prompts you for the key and then feeds it to Kermit. > I assume you are concerned about keeping passwords online -- always a > risky business. "Using C-Kermit" discusses this topic at some length. I have the MS-DOS Kermit book... and have already inquired my local book store about the C-Kermit version. They don't have it in stock, so I ordered it about a week ago. I'll check out this section upon receipt. I am not so much interested in keeping passwords online as I will have a very restricted dialup connection, possibly running Kermit's remote mode with pretty much everything disabled except to receive files. I suppose the inline encrytion example you gave would work nicely. Its just a matter of finding one that will be buildable on all related platforms... something of a DES (data encryption standard) nature would be best... anyone w/ideas, more than happy to here them 8^). > - Frank --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark J. Jordan, President Par Computer Solutions, Grand Rapids, MI mjordan@mail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 12:14:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01284 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12151 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:14:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU!lusgr From: lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU (Stephen G. Roseman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit, directory name being ignored on GET Date: 18 Feb 1997 16:33:40 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5ecll4$5oc@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chili.cc.lehigh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6614 I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature. The section in ckc192.upd on RECEIVE and GET directory changes is a bit obscure. Setup: PC (MS-DOS kermit 3.14) sitting in SERVER mode. Unix (C-Kermit 6.0.192) runs a script to get a file from the PC, and store it locally. The GET command is run without parameters, and prompts for the remote and local file names. eg: [/j/lusgr] C-Kermit>get Remote file specification: kermit.exe Local name to store it under: /tmp/frog.exe stores the file "frog.exe" in the local directory, not in /tmp. [/j/lusgr] C-Kermit>get Remote file specification: c:\util\kermit.exe Local name to store it under: frog.exe doesn't find the file on the PC end. The directory names are being ignored. This process worked with C-Kermit 5. Thanks, Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Roseman Lehigh University Computing Center lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.Edu From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 12:41:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08413 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13511 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:41:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!sn.no!newsfeed.tip.net!news.kuai.se!news From: Daniel Lindstr=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=m Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit for OS9000 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:33:26 -0800 Organization: GEOSIGMA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <330A6676.6984@geosigma.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp53.kuai.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6615 HELP! Can anyone provide Kermit.exe for OS9000 (or direct me to a place where I = can download it). Please! -- = GEOSIGMA AB Daniel Lindstr=F6m Tel: +46 (0)18 52 15 04; Fax: +46 (0)18 55 36 90 daniel.lindstrom@geosigma.se Seminariegatan 33 752 28 Uppsala, Sweden From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 12:54:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10777 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14053 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:54:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit, directory name being ignored on GET Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:54:01 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5ecqbp$1ti$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ecll4$5oc@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6616 In article <5ecll4$5oc@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, Stephen G. Roseman wrote: : I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature. The section in ckc192.upd on : RECEIVE and GET directory changes is a bit obscure. : : Setup: PC (MS-DOS kermit 3.14) sitting in SERVER mode. : Unix (C-Kermit 6.0.192) runs a script to get a file from the PC, and : store it locally. The GET command is run without parameters, and prompts for : the remote and local file names. eg: : : [/j/lusgr] C-Kermit>get : Remote file specification: kermit.exe : Local name to store it under: /tmp/frog.exe : : stores the file "frog.exe" in the local directory, not in /tmp. : : [/j/lusgr] C-Kermit>get : Remote file specification: c:\util\kermit.exe : Local name to store it under: frog.exe : : doesn't find the file on the PC end. : : The directory names are being ignored. This process worked with C-Kermit 5. Try c:\\util\\kermit.exe since '\' is the Kermit command quoting character. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 16:19:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19302 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23472 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:17:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!130.13.16.4!news.advtech.uswest.com!aeon.ecte.uswc.uswest.com!usenet From: Duane Christensen Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problem with dialing on a USRobotics (long) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:55:31 -0600 Organization: PDS Lines: 74 Message-ID: <330A1743.420D@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: oisdev05.ecte.uswc.uswest.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) CC: llegler@mnet.uswest.uswc.com, dlchri2@ment.uswest.uswc.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6617 I am running: C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for HP-UX 9.0 with a US Robotics Courier V.Everything(TM) modem and the modem set to usrobotics on a HP-UX 9000/891 A.09.04 (T500) machine. After a soft reboot of the machine the modem fails to recognize the Hangup-command string of ATQ0H0, and then fails to recognize the Init-string. My work around to use C-Kermit 5A(190), 4 Oct 94, for HP-UX 9.0. In this script I had identified the modem as hayes. The first run of the old script produces and error of NO CARRIER, but after that the script for the old version and script for the new version work as written. Turning the modem off and on has no effect on the script failing, only the reseting of the machine. I have set dial display on and see the following: Dial timeout: 43 seconds To cancel: type your interrupt character (normally Ctrl-C). +++ATQ0H0 Hangup error: Error 0 Initializing: 14:06:06... ATQ0X4&A3&N0&Y3 No response from modem, retrying... ATQ0X4&A3&N0&Y3 No response from modem, retrying again... ATQ0X4&A3&N0&Y3 No response from modem, retrying again... DIAL Failure: 14:06:25: Error initializing modem. The AT commands do not appear on a line by themselves but are overtyped by the message that follows it. My guess is that there is not a one second pause around the +++, but I have not been able to verify this. I have tried various values for the Hangup-command, but nothing has worked. I attempted to set the value to nothing and could not figure out how this was accomplished. I have the book "Using C-Kermit Second Edition", I have read most of the sections covering dialing twice and have not found anything that allowed the script for the new version of C-Kermit to work the first time. When I run the script for the old version and then the new version the display dial shows Dial timeout: 43 seconds To cancel: type your interrupt character (normally Ctrl-C). +++ATQ0H0 OK Modem hangup OK Initializing: 14:18:37... ATQ0X4&A3&N0&Y3 OK ATS7=33 OK AT&M4&B1 OK AT&K1 OK AT&H1&R2&I0 OK ATS2=43 OK Dialing: 14:18:39... I need to make the script for the new version work all the time. I do not want to keep both versions of the code around. If need be, I will ask to have the updated version removed. I would prefer to have the new version work all the time, and remove the old version. Thanks for your help. From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 18:39:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19646 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00179 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:39:43 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!mr.net!newshub.tc.umn.edu!mayonews.mayo.edu!news From: bleimeyer.robert@mayo.edu (Robert Bleimeyer) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit for Psion? Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:25:57 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Lines: 11 Message-ID: <5eddq5$6co@tribune.mayo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phi.mayo.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6618 Has anyone ever ported Kermit to the Psion 3a palmtop computer? ------------------------------------------------------ Robert R. Bleimeyer Mayo Foundation 200 SW First Street Rochester, MN 55905 USA Internet: bleimeyer.robert@mayo.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 19:05:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23937 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01393 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:05:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit, directory name being ignored on GET Date: 19 Feb 1997 00:05:03 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 44 Message-ID: <5edg3f$oq6$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ecll4$5oc@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6619 In article <5ecll4$5oc@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, Stephen G. Roseman wrote: : I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature. The section in ckc192.upd on : RECEIVE and GET directory changes is a bit obscure. : : Setup: PC (MS-DOS kermit 3.14) sitting in SERVER mode. : Unix (C-Kermit 6.0.192) runs a script to get a file from the PC, and : store it locally. The GET command is run without parameters, and prompts for : the remote and local file names. eg: : : [/j/lusgr] C-Kermit>get : Remote file specification: kermit.exe : Local name to store it under: /tmp/frog.exe : : stores the file "frog.exe" in the local directory, not in /tmp. : This one is sort of halfway between a bug and a feature. Pathnames are ignored (stripped) when receiving files unless you tell C-Kermit to: SET RECEIVE PATHNAMES ON However, when you take the trouble to specify a pathname for the incoming file in your GET command, this should override the RECEIVE PATHNAMES setting, since you can do the same thing in a RECEIVE command without any trouble. In any case, SET RECEIVE PATHNAMES ON is the workaround. : [/j/lusgr] C-Kermit>get : Remote file specification: c:\util\kermit.exe : Local name to store it under: frog.exe : : doesn't find the file on the PC end. : Jeff answered this one previously: it's the clash between backslash as a special character in Kermit commands, and its use as a directory separator in DOS-like file systems. Whenever you need to specify a backslash in a remote filename, use two: get c:\\util\\kermit.exe : The directory names are being ignored. This process worked with C-Kermit 5. : Evidently the price of progress :-) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Feb 18 19:55:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03057 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03768 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:55:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with dialing on a USRobotics (long) Date: 19 Feb 1997 00:55:19 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 54 Message-ID: <5edj1n$rnt$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <330A1743.420D@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6620 In article <330A1743.420D@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com>, Duane Christensen wrote: : I am running: C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for HP-UX 9.0 : with a US Robotics Courier V.Everything(TM) modem and the : modem set to usrobotics on a HP-UX 9000/891 A.09.04 (T500) : machine. : : After a soft reboot of the machine the modem fails to : recognize the Hangup-command string of ATQ0H0, and then : fails to recognize the Init-string. : In fact, your logs show that it fails to read any characters at all. What happens if you do this: set modem type usr set carrier off set line /dev/xxxx set speed 57600 connect and then type AT and carriage return? : My guess is that there is not a one second pause around the +++... : There is definitely a pause. : I need to make the script for the new version work all the time. : I do not want to keep both versions of the code around. If need : be, I will ask to have the updated version removed. I would prefer : to have the new version work all the time, and remove the old : version. : I would too, of course. This is a tough one to diagnose at a distance. Nobody else has reported any problems like this with HP-UX 9.0. OK, so if you dial the modem with C-Kermit 5A(190) once, then you can use C-Kermit 6.0.192 all you want until the next time the system is booted? Let me take a wild stab... One big difference between the two Kermit versions is that C-Kermit 6.0 automatically chooses the best type of flow control; in this case RTS/CTS because both the modem and HP-UX support it. 5A(190) did not do that, and so was probably using the default setting of Xon/Xoff. This makes me think that the cable between the computer and the modem might not have the circuits needed for hardware flow control. So what happens if you do this: set modem type usr set flow xon/xoff set line /dev/xxxx set speed 57600 and then dial? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 07:05:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21672 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26717 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:05:29 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Re: OS/2 Specific DOS and MS-DOS Kermit X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Feb19.110830.10071@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net References: <1997Feb17.103511.155285@forest> <1997Feb15.090805.155151@forest> <1997Feb17.100642.26785@lafn.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:08:30 GMT Lines: 112 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6621 In a previous article, pcoen@forest.drew.edu (Paul Coen) says: >In article <1997Feb17.100642.26785@lafn.org>, aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: >> I went back and added to >> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS >> to make it: >> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,3F8,4) (4,2E8,3) >> > >Okay, that's good -- I'm sure that wasn't helping matters any. However, >you're using the same IRQ for COM4 as COM2 -- is anything else using >COM2 at the same time? ..................... > No! I've run this way under straight, plain vanilla DOS all the time with no problems, and it run about the same in the DOS full screen window in OS/2 now with the right settings dialed in, but still will only work under the specific DOS if I comment out the OS/2 config.sys drivers, and reboot before booting the specific DOS version. Maybe this is a case of DOS being too dumb to know it was not supposed to work this way, and the more sophisticated operating system noticing something is wrong. Anyway, nothing is hooked up to the other COM ports, and they are all set to the defacto standards: COM1 x3f8, IRQ 4 COM2 x2f8, IRQ 3 COM3 x3e8, IRQ 4 COM4 x2e8, IRQ 3 When run under plain DOS, MSD shows 1,2, &4 as 16550AF's, with #3 as an 8250, While under the Specific DOS session, MSD shows all of them as 16550AF's - I don't know if that matters or not. >Anyway, you may need to tell MS-Kermit where it is, or where you >put it. The command is 'SET COM4 \x02e8 \3' (or whatever it actually >is). I usually do this in the MSCUSTOM.INI file. > >> and even added the >> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMDD.SYS >> which supposedly some software needs >> (I don't know if I put it in the right position, or >> even if the location in CONFIG.SYS matters?) >> > >Order doesn't really matter. Which I didn't know previously. > >> AAAAAAAAAA-- no, it's not >> it's 3.0 >> > >RMVIEW should work anyway -- type RMVIEW /? to get the options (I When run under OS/2, it agreed with what MSD showed under straight DOS and in the Specific DOS booted session, and what is above. > >> Still, why not the Specific DOS? >> (I like the COMMAND.COM that I'm using on it) >> I found that commenting out all COM device drivers >> in CONFIG.SYS - COM.SYS AND VCOM.SYS (and COMDD.SYS if that matters >> any) enabled MS-DOS Kermit to run from a >> Specific DOS session booted from a disk. >> This seems extremely awkward, but maybe it provides someone >> more knowledgable about OS/2 a clue as to what will work more >> smoothly. Somehow, I suspect maybe the VIO.SYS I've seen >> mentioned might solve it, but I don't know. > > >I think you mean "SIO.SYS" -- VIO is the PM API used to deal with text Your right about this, my memory was getting confused! >windows. The only problem with a "specific DOS" is that it takes >more system overhead. Also, something is just not configured right >if you have to do the above to get it to work -- I've been running >MS-Kermit since OS/2 2.0 in an OS/2 DOS window with no problems. > >Anyway, SIO won't help in this situation -- I suspect you'll have the >same sort of configuration problem, whatever it is. > I tried installing a version of COM.SYS I found on the HOBBES archive CD-ROMS, that is a few months more recent then my system was dated, to no avail. Again, thanks! Some might think this is a waste of time, but I've found that trying to plow through problems like this frequently is worthwhile in terms of understanding what is going on, and in this case will probably result in my understanding OS/2, the Specific DOS boot process, MS-DOS Kermit, and the PC communication port hardware better. Already, studying over the documents for running MS-DOS Kermit helped me to get it running properly in the full screen DOS windows, which in turn helped me to run a FAX program I use a lot in them as well. I'll probably get the OS/2 versions of C-Kermit running sometime not too distant in the future, but in the meantime I can run my MS-DOS Kermit scripts in the DOS windows without having to reboot to DOS, and with a minimum of adaptations. Regards, Dallas E. Legan 562-862-4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 10:43:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26764 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07528 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:43:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!sun3.hrz.uni-essen.de!sl0528 From: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: MS-Kermit via INT14h Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:06:54 +0100 Organization: Essen University, Germany Lines: 72 Message-ID: Reply-To: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Originator: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6622 Hi, I'm hardly trying to get MS-Kermit screwed up running as telnet client via INT14h - but it doesn't still work at all! :-( I can't handle TCP/IP connection as it is described in msk315.doc for serveral reasons: 1. The terminal server, to which I connect to, strongly recommends a PAP login, so I can't dial in with Kermit because of missing Link Control Protocol. 2. At the moment I prefer using pppshare rather than etherppp, because the former seems to work more stable and reliable than the latter; pppshare is a Novell ODI driver for use over a PPP link and emulates a class 1 (ethernet) driver. 3. I generally like to use a class 1 driver, because most of my DOS clients call for one (and this way does WATTCP) So why not get things working from the back? I'm trying exactly this with the help from *tcpport.exe*, which I found in the WATTCP tool kit. Please see note below: --- Using MS-KERMIT with Waterloo TCP You may wish to use a communication program such as KERMIT rather than TELNET. Waterloo TCP makes this very easy to do with its TCPPORT program. Start by creating a configuration file which tells your com program to use the BIOS ports rather than hardware. For my version of KERMIT, the config file looks like: C:\TNKERMIT\MSKERMIT.INI set baud 9600 set port bios1 [...] some cool stuff deleted --- Now we can start a telnet session from a batch file *telnet.bat* like this one for example: tcpport %1 23 "c:\kermit" So I've made a minimal mskermit.ini the following items within: set term type vt320 ; Change this if desired. set port 2 ; Change if desired. If COM3 or 4, read KERMIT.BWR. set speed 57600 ; Change if desired. set flow RTS/CTS ; Change to RTS/CTS if modem is configured for this. set term bytesize 8 ; Change to 7/8 if desired. set term color 0 34 47 ; Terminal screen fore- and background colors. define wattcp - set port bios2, set speed 57600, set duplex full, - set local-echo off, set flow none, - set handshake none, set parity none And here's my batch file: tcpport %1 23 "kermit do wattcp, connect, stay" I really get a connect to my host with the configuration mentioned above but my terminal screen is full of garbage; when I terminate those failed telnet sessions, my PPP link is broken - when I ping the host, there are no responses anyway and I must hang up the modem. :-(( What's going wrong there? Who can help me? Ciao, Thomas. BTW: Does anybody know, where to get rather recent WATTCP binaries from? I didn't found any on WATTCP's home ftp server but only the sources; I found some exe.files on the ftp server of Cologne University, they are dated as of Sep 1994. PS: Please don't mind my bad english ... From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 11:15:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03146 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09283 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:15:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!130.13.16.4!news.advtech.uswest.com!aeon.ecte.uswc.uswest.com!usenet From: Duane Christensen Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with dialing on a USRobotics (long) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:58:07 -0600 Organization: PDS Lines: 90 Message-ID: <330B230F.44A6@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: oisdev05.ecte.uswc.uswest.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6623 Frank da Cruz wrote: : : In article <330A1743.420D@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com>, : Duane Christensen wrote: : : I am running: C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for HP-UX 9.0 : : with a US Robotics Courier V.Everything(TM) modem and the : : modem set to usrobotics on a HP-UX 9000/891 A.09.04 (T500) : : machine. : : : : After a soft reboot of the machine the modem fails to : : recognize the Hangup-command string of ATQ0H0, and then : : fails to recognize the Init-string. : : : In fact, your logs show that it fails to read any characters : at all. What happens if you do this: : : set modem type usr : set carrier off : set line /dev/xxxx : set speed 57600 The highest speed that I can set the speed at is 9600. If I set anything higher it reverts to the previous setting (300 baud). : connect : : and then type AT and carriage return? I tried this and nothing happened. : : : My guess is that there is not a one second pause around the +++... : : : There is definitely a pause. : Cool. Thanks. : : I need to make the script for the new version work all the time. : : I do not want to keep both versions of the code around. If need : : be, I will ask to have the updated version removed. I would prefer : : to have the new version work all the time, and remove the old : : version. : : : I would too, of course. This is a tough one to diagnose at a distance. : Nobody else has reported any problems like this with HP-UX 9.0. : : OK, so if you dial the modem with C-Kermit 5A(190) once, then you can : use C-Kermit 6.0.192 all you want until the next time the system is booted? : : Let me take a wild stab... One big difference between the two Kermit versions : is that C-Kermit 6.0 automatically chooses the best type of flow control; : in this case RTS/CTS because both the modem and HP-UX support it. 5A(190) : did not do that, and so was probably using the default setting of Xon/Xoff. : This makes me think that the cable between the computer and the modem might : not have the circuits needed for hardware flow control. So what happens if : you do this: : : set modem type usr : set flow xon/xoff : set line /dev/xxxx : set speed 57600 See note above about setting to this baud rate. : : and then dial? I tried this and various combinations of these settings and none of the settings changed how it worked. I wonder if there is some kind of configuration issue with HP/UX or the port. Also, there could be problems with the cable, because the cable is built by people who know a little about modems and nothing about HP hardware. If anyone has the ideal pin-out schematic for this configuration I would appricate it. When I talk to the people that install modems, they are not very good about telling me what schematic we are using, but they are great if you tell them this is the schematic we need to use. This would be nice to know even if it is not my problem. : : - Frank Thank you very much for your assistance. - Duane From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 12:17:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15112 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12296 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:17:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with dialing on a USRobotics (long) Date: 19 Feb 1997 17:17:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 53 Message-ID: <5efcih$g5e$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <330B230F.44A6@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6624 In article <330B230F.44A6@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com>, Duane Christensen wrote: : Frank da Cruz wrote: : : In article <330A1743.420D@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com>, : : Duane Christensen wrote: : : : I am running: C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for HP-UX 9.0 : : : with a US Robotics Courier V.Everything(TM) modem and the : : : modem set to usrobotics on a HP-UX 9000/891 A.09.04 (T500) : : : machine. : : : : : : After a soft reboot of the machine the modem fails to : : : recognize the Hangup-command string of ATQ0H0, and then : : : fails to recognize the Init-string. : : : : : In fact, your logs show that it fails to read any characters : : at all. What happens if you do this: : : : : set modem type usr : : set carrier off : : set line /dev/xxxx : : set speed 57600 : : The highest speed that I can set the speed at is 9600. If I set : anything higher it reverts to the previous setting (300 baud). : What reverts to 300 baud? Exactly what do you mean by this? If you can't use interface speeds above 9600, that kind of defeats the purpose of having a high speed modem. The modem should support speeds up to 115200 bps, and HP-UX 9.0 supports speeds at least that high, and so does the HP-UX 9.0 version of C-Kermit, so I'm not sure where the 9600 bps limitation is coming from. : : connect : : : : and then type AT and carriage return? : : I tried this and nothing happened. : No echo? No error message? Kermit did not pop back to its prompt automatically right away? But it did let you escape back to the prompt with Ctrl-\c? : I wonder if there is some kind of configuration issue with HP/UX : or the port. Also, there could be problems with the cable, because : the cable is built by people who know a little about modems and : nothing about HP hardware. : Either one of these is a distinct possibility. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 20:32:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22099 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06212 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:32:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Altos Kermit binary needed Date: 20 Feb 1997 01:32:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5eg9je$i7g$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6625 Somebody is in dire need of a Kermit binary for: Hardware: Altos 386 series 1000 model # 386E-167 25.0 Software: Altos System 5 v.5.3E BBX copyright 1987 Basis Inc Level 2 v.2.4 BBX - 00200 MAS-90 Accounting system - Master Accounting Series Evolution 2 It looks to me like this one is covered by some variation on the following C-Kermit makefile entries: # + for Altos 486, 586, 986 with Xenix 3.0, "make altos" # + for Altos ACS68000, 8Mhz 68000, UNIX System 3 Rel 2, 512K, "make altos3" Can anybody supply a binary? (Preferably for C-Kermit 6.0, but any will do.) Thanks! - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 22:03:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03885 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10442 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:03:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbreeder.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: julianafc@aol.com (Julianafc) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kermit 6.0 file: libncurses.so.3.0 Date: 20 Feb 1997 01:28:24 GMT Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970219145400.JAA07473@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6626 I have installed kermit using cku192.slackware-i386.tgz but now when I try to run kermit it doesn't run. The error message is: can't find file libncurses.so.3.0 What should I do? From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 19 22:14:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04956 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10954 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:14:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbreeder.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.apfel.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: julianafc@aol.com (Julianafc) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kermit 6.0 file: libncurses.so.3.0 Date: 20 Feb 1997 01:37:33 GMT Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970219150300.KAA09790@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6627 I have installed kermit using cku192.slackware-i386.tgz but now when I try to run kermit it doesn't run. The error message is: can't find file libncurses.so.3.0 What should I do? From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 20 02:59:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17666 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 02:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA21699 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 02:59:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbreeder.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!not-for-mail From: kimoto@spacenet.tn.cornell.edu (Paul Kimoto) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit 6.0 file: libncurses.so.3.0 Date: 20 Feb 1997 07:58:02 GMT Organization: Cornell University Lines: 13 Sender: pk14@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5eh06a$574@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <19970219145400.JAA07473@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: naked.tn.cornell.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6628 Julianafc (julianafc@aol.com) wrote: > I have installed kermit using cku192.slackware-i386.tgz but now when I try > to run kermit it doesn't run. > The error message is: can't find file libncurses.so.3.0 This is ncurses version 1.9.9e. A Linux (ELF) binary is available at ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/ncurses-1.9.9e.bin.tar.gz. (I don't know where tsx-11 is mirrored.) -- | Paul Kimoto kimoto@spacenet.tn.cornell.edu | | Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, Cornell University | | Ithaca, New York 14853 USA | From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 20 14:51:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00523 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13713 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:50:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.80.1.4!interaccess!usenet From: chuck@hct.chi.il.us (Chuck P. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.mail.uucp Subject: HDB lock files Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:31:54 GMT Organization: HCT, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5ei8ra$ipp@nntp.interaccess.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d108.cloud2.interaccess.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6629 comp.mail.uucp:15481 Given the following lock file: /var/spool/locks/LK.047.098.134, the 098 is the major and the 134 the minor device numbers. Where does the 047 come from? Thanks, Chuck chuck@whn.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 20 15:17:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05061 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15034 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:17:04 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: HDB lock files Date: 20 Feb 1997 20:17:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5eibg0$bsd$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5ei8ra$ipp@nntp.interaccess.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6630 comp.mail.uucp:15482 In article <5ei8ra$ipp@nntp.interaccess.com>, Chuck P. Brown wrote: : Given the following lock file: /var/spool/locks/LK.047.098.134, the 098 : is the major and the 134 the minor device numbers. Where does the 047 : come from? : That would depend on the operating system and version, and the application software and version. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 01:01:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10613 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12723 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:01:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao!CS.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problem with msk315 beta Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:45:20 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5ejcpg$em8@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: lectura.cs.arizona.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6631 I've been using kermit, '3.14 18 Jan 1995 Patch level 6', for some time on my Compaq Aero 4/33C running Windows 3.1, with a 28.8 Compaq PCMCIA modem, to dial up terminal servers at work and an ISP. With the latest msk315 beta dialing up the ISP is fine, but when dialing into work my machine consistently locks up! It looks (and sounds) like the call is made correctly, but after the speaker sounds stop instead of a 'connect' line there is a 4-5 second pause and then the system gags with a Internal stack overflow System halted error, and it's power-cycle time. Any ideas? 'set debug on' didn't reveal anything. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 10:20:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11171 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26014 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:20:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with msk315 beta Message-ID: <1997Feb21.080017.94646@cc.usu.edu> Date: 21 Feb 97 08:00:16 MDT References: <5ejcpg$em8@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 22 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6632 In article <5ejcpg$em8@lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU>, jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) writes: > I've been using kermit, '3.14 18 Jan 1995 Patch level 6', for some > time on my Compaq Aero 4/33C running Windows 3.1, with a 28.8 Compaq > PCMCIA modem, to dial up terminal servers at work and an ISP. With > the latest msk315 beta dialing up the ISP is fine, but when dialing > into work my machine consistently locks up! It looks (and sounds) > like the call is made correctly, but after the speaker sounds stop > instead of a 'connect' line there is a 4-5 second pause and then the > system gags with a > > Internal stack overflow > System halted > > error, and it's power-cycle time. > > Any ideas? 'set debug on' didn't reveal anything. --------- Neither line above is a Kermit error message. They are from outside Kermit. To zero in on the problem I suggest you say SET TAKE ECHO ON in the script before the problem and watch commands be executed one by one. As always, PCMCIA modems and helpers are suspects in the case. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 11:09:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22079 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28349 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:09:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbreeder.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit via INT14h Message-ID: <1997Feb21.080628.94647@cc.usu.edu> Date: 21 Feb 97 08:06:28 MDT References: Organization: Utah State University Lines: 31 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6633 In article , sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) writes: > Hi, > > I'm hardly trying to get MS-Kermit screwed up running as telnet client > via INT14h - but it doesn't still work at all! :-( I am having difficulty following your report. MSK's Int14h support does work, and there are many flavors of Int14 which it supports. Without knowing what you tried and what happened I can't comment further. > I can't handle TCP/IP connection as it is described in msk315.doc for > serveral reasons: 1. The terminal server, to which I connect to, > strongly recommends a PAP login, so I can't dial in with Kermit > because of missing Link Control Protocol. Translation: your link requires a PPP connection. Fine. > 2. At the moment I prefer > using pppshare rather than etherppp, because the former seems to work > more stable and reliable than the latter; pppshare is a Novell ODI > driver for use over a PPP link and emulates a class 1 (ethernet) > driver. 3. I generally like to use a class 1 driver, because most of > my DOS clients call for one (and this way does WATTCP) I have not seen PPPSHARE. ETHERPPP does work because I've tested it. Recall that PPP is not a broadcast medium, but Ethernet is. Thus trying to emulate Ethernet in a PPP driver creates serious difficulties dealing with ARP and IP gateways and so on. Try setting up the PPP driver as a SLIP interface rather than Ethernet. SLIP is point to point, just as PPP is, and Kermit understands that pathway. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 11:17:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23455 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28672 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:16:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!130.13.16.4!news.advtech.uswest.com!aeon.ecte.uswc.uswest.com!usenet From: Duane Christensen Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problem with dialing on a USRobotics (long) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:54:21 -0600 Organization: PDS Lines: 54 Message-ID: <330DC52D.6B9@mas-co1.uswc.uswest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: oisdev05.ecte.uswc.uswest.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) CC: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu, dlchri2@mnet.uswest.uswc.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6634 : I am running: C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for HP-UX 9.0 : with a US Robotics Courier V.Everything(TM) modem and the : modem set to usrobotics on a HP-UX 9000/891 A.09.04 (T500) : machine. : : After a soft reboot of the machine the modem fails to : recognize the Hangup-command string of ATQ0HO, and then : fails to recognize the Init-string. I have found from various hints and experimenting that my script will work if I have the following somewhere towards the top: ! stty crts < /dev/tty0p1 I have tried the 'set flow-control' command in C-kermit to accomplish the same thing, but it does not appear to work. I also been told the following by Graham Jolley via Frank da Cruz: I'm having problems getting a multi-platform TTY application to work on an HP-UX 10.20 box in the same way as on Solaris 2.x, AIX and HP-UX 9.07. Any advice would be appreciated : .... 2) When I use cfsetispeed() to set an input speed both 9.07 and 10.20 appear to set some high order bits in the c_cflags termios variable (that is at the other end to where the CBAUD bits are located). Of couse I also call cfsetospeed() to select the same output speed. The problem is that only HP-UX 9.07 correctly sets these same high-order bits when I request the new settings to check everything was set as requested. My code complains that my request didn't succeed (because the new c_cflag doesn't exactly match the value requested by tcsetattr()). OK I could just remove the test but I thought that tcsetattr() is just required to do its best, and an application should check all requested changes have been performed. As I previosly stated HP-UX 9.07 DOES correctly set these undocumented bits. I took this to mean that there is a problem with HP-UX and setting communication parameters. The system administrator and I went through a problems/resolutions database in this area and saw nothing directly relating to my problem. I would like to take this time to also thank Frank da Cruz for the help that he gave me, and in general the help he provides in this newsgroup. - Duane Christensen From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 13:18:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18927 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04437 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:18:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerci.atl.hp.com!news From: John Bigg Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problems with macro parameters containing spaces. Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:02:41 +0000 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co. Lines: 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <330DE341.6927@uksr.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hppine38.uksr.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/715) CC: jbigg@uksr.hp.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6635 I have been having problems with parameters to kermit macros for some time now. It has been really driving me mad. Maybe the answer is in the kermit book which I now have on order. Anyway, this is the problem. It appears that if I'm passing parameters to a macro and the parameters contain spaces \%1 only contains the first word. e.g. C-Kermit>def mymacro { return \%1 } C-Kermit>asg \%a {This is some text} C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro,\%a) This I thought I could work around this by using {{ }} around the parameter. C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro,{{\%a}}) This is some text which is fine. But if the text contains a } then this doesn't work either. C-Kermit>asg \%a {This is \125 some text} C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro,{{\%a}}) This is The only solution seems to be to abandon parameters and use global variables instead but this seems really awkward. C-Kermit>def mymacro { return \%p } C-Kermit>asg \%p \%a C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro) This is } some text Has anyone got a better solution to this? By the way, \fchecksum and \fhexify are great additions to kermit 6, they have simplified my implementation of TAP and UCP protocols immensely. Thanks John -- ______________________________________________________________________ John D. Bigg Email: jbigg@uksr.hp.com HP-UX WTEC Engineer Desk: John Bigg/HP8005/S1 Hewlett Packard Ltd HP URL: http://hppine38.uksr.hp.com/ Nine Mile Ride, Wokingham Telephone: +44 (0)1344 763038 Berkshire, RG40 3LL Voicemail: +44 (0)1344 367518 United Kingdom Telnet: 315-3038 From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 13:37:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23877 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05312 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:37:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!usenet From: "Eoin C. Bairéad" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: problem with MSKermit 3.15 Beta 17 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:34:40 -0800 Organization: Comhairleoir Ríomhaireachta Lines: 39 Message-ID: <330E5B40.25C5@indigo.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts18-11.dublin.indigo.ie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6636 I have a problem with MSKermit 3.15 Beta 17 It may be me! here is the beginning of a file-transfer .INI file to work on an ALPHA define ermsg echo \%1\13\7\7\7, exit ; MACRO for errors set port com2 set sp 192 set par n set term bytesize 8 set term controls 8 set term display 8 set input timeout quit ; just quit if there's no mainframe OUT \13\13 ; now get the attention of OUT \26\13 ; the server - if it asks OUT \13\13 ; for a username, tell it ^Z OUT \26\13 OUT \13\13 OUT C ALPHA1\13 ; connect to the ALPHA out \13\13 input 5 Username: ; Get the Username Prompt OUT TRANSFER\13 ; Login as TRANSFER input 2 Password: echo Enter password: output @con output \13 input 10 \27Z ; the VAX outputs ESC-Z for terminal recognition 3.15 displays Username: from the ALPHA on the screen, but never seems to output TRANSFER. I've read the .DOC that comes with, and apart from an old fix - . INPUT ignored bytes read during preceeding script commands, such as PAUSE or OUTPUT. - which doesn't seem relevant, I can see nothing. Has anyone any ideas ? Thank you Eoin From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 21 14:15:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00848 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07344 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:15:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems with macro parameters containing spaces. Date: 21 Feb 1997 19:15:49 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5eks95$lq2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <330DE341.6927@uksr.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6637 In article <330DE341.6927@uksr.hp.com>, John Bigg wrote: : It appears that if I'm passing parameters to a macro and the parameters : contain spaces \%1 only contains the first word. e.g. : : C-Kermit>def mymacro { return \%1 } : C-Kermit>asg \%a {This is some text} : C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro,\%a) : This : : I thought I could work around this by using {{ }} around the parameter. : : C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro,{{\%a}}) : This is some text : : which is fine. But if the text contains a } then this doesn't work : either. : : C-Kermit>asg \%a {This is \125 some text} : C-Kermit>echo \fexec(mymacro,{{\%a}}) : This is : It is indeed a shortcoming of the parameter passing mechanism that there is no good way to distinguish between literal curly braces and curly braces used for grouping. However, if the braces appear at different "levels", as they do in your example (around \%a, and "inside" \%a), then the parser should be able to cope. I'll have to figure out why it doesn't and come up with a fix. : By the way, \fchecksum and \fhexify are great additions to kermit 6, : they have simplified my implementation of TAP and UCP protocols : immensely. : That was the idea :-) C-Kermit 6.0 already comes with a simple TAP script. You used this as a model? What is UCP? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 22 00:44:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18057 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 00:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06504 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 00:44:20 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!zippo!news From: cksam@macau.ctm.net (SAM, Chi-Kin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit via INT14h Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 03:26:17 GMT Organization: Tecnologia Electronica Hermes Lines: 104 Message-ID: <5elp42$csr@lex.zippo.com> References: Reply-To: cksam@macau.ctm.net NNTP-Posting-Host: c6line6.macau.ctm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6638 On Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:06:54 +0100, sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) wrote: >Hi, > >I'm hardly trying to get MS-Kermit screwed up running as telnet client >via INT14h - but it doesn't still work at all! :-( > >I can't handle TCP/IP connection as it is described in msk315.doc for >serveral reasons: 1. The terminal server, to which I connect to, >strongly recommends a PAP login, so I can't dial in with Kermit >because of missing Link Control Protocol. 2. At the moment I prefer >using pppshare rather than etherppp, because the former seems to work >more stable and reliable than the latter; pppshare is a Novell ODI >driver for use over a PPP link and emulates a class 1 (ethernet) >driver. 3. I generally like to use a class 1 driver, because most of >my DOS clients call for one (and this way does WATTCP) > >So why not get things working from the back? I'm trying exactly this >with the help from *tcpport.exe*, which I found in the WATTCP tool >kit. Please see note below: > >--- >Using MS-KERMIT with Waterloo TCP > >You may wish to use a communication program such as KERMIT >rather than TELNET. Waterloo TCP makes this very easy to do >with its TCPPORT program. > >Start by creating a configuration file which tells your com >program to use the BIOS ports rather than hardware. For my >version of KERMIT, the config file looks like: > >C:\TNKERMIT\MSKERMIT.INI >set baud 9600 >set port bios1 >[...] some cool stuff deleted >--- > >Now we can start a telnet session from a batch file *telnet.bat* like >this one for example: tcpport %1 23 "c:\kermit" > >So I've made a minimal mskermit.ini the following items within: > >set term type vt320 ; Change this if desired. >set port 2 ; Change if desired. If COM3 or 4, read KERMIT.BWR. >set speed 57600 ; Change if desired. >set flow RTS/CTS ; Change to RTS/CTS if modem is configured for this. >set term bytesize 8 ; Change to 7/8 if desired. >set term color 0 34 47 ; Terminal screen fore- and background colors. > >define wattcp - > set port bios2, set speed 57600, set duplex full, - > set local-echo off, set flow none, - > set handshake none, set parity none > >And here's my batch file: >tcpport %1 23 "kermit do wattcp, connect, stay" > >I really get a connect to my host with the configuration mentioned >above but my terminal screen is full of garbage; when I terminate >those failed telnet sessions, my PPP link is broken - when I ping the >host, there are no responses anyway and I must hang up the modem. :-(( > >What's going wrong there? Who can help me? > >Ciao, Thomas. > >BTW: Does anybody know, where to get rather recent WATTCP >binaries from? I didn't found any on WATTCP's home ftp server but only >the sources; I found some exe.files on the ftp server of Cologne >University, they are dated as of Sep 1994. > >PS: Please don't mind my bad english ... > I am playing with MS-Kermit version 3.15 beta 18, I tested it working with PPPshare fine. I do not using INT14h. I just setup up and load PPPshare as usual. Then I make the following changes in mskermit.ini / mscustom.ini: set port tcp nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (the host I want to connect) set tcp addr dhcp (my isp can provide dhcp or bootp) then I can telnet to any hosts now. My observation is that after load the PPP stack and set port statement in the mskermit.ini / mscustom.ini which set port to a physical port instead with set port tcp nnn.nnn.nnn or set port tcp my.host.domain.mane will break down the ppp connection immediately. You may try to download and use the beta version as I do, the accompany document mentioned procedures to use etherppp some information concern set up MS-kermitalso applying to PPPshare. Good luck. ...SAM =========================================================================== SAM, Chi-Kin (Mr.) at Hermes Electronics Technology Co. in MACAU Tel: +(853)963609 Fax: +(853)511456 PGP key: http://macau.ctm.net/~cksam e-mail: cksam@macau.ctm.net Mailing-addr.: P.O.Box 831, Macau, South CHINA =========================================================================== From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 22 08:05:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01979 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12992 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:05:20 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Without COM.SYS or VCOM.SYS X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Feb22.122324.4109@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:23:24 GMT Lines: 41 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6639 Hopefully, this will close to the end of my posts on this subject. I found that I could run MS-DOS Kermit under Specific DOS in OS/2 by commenting out the DEVICE=some\path\COM.SYS DEVICE=some\other\path\VCOM.SYS statements in the CONFIG.SYS files. Trying an experiment, I was extremely suprised to find that I could run MSDK in DOS windows also after doing this, as well as a FAX program I use. What is the reason behind this? There must be some disadvantages or restrictions on this, but what? Can anyone out there confirm that these *.SYS files are absolutely needed for running C-Kermit and Kermit-95 under OS/2? If they are, this would seem to imply that MS-DOS Kermit is more independent of the operating system enviroment it is running in, in some sense, where the other versions are better suited to multitasking environments I would think. If they are not, then what are these *.SYS files for? (I just got my Kermit-95 package on order today :-) ) Anyway, thanks for any comment. (I'm cross posting this to some OS/2 user groups, and respondents there should do so by eMail, I haven't been regularly reading them.) Regards Dallas E. Legan 562-862-4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org From news@columbia.edu Sat Feb 22 09:12:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08797 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 09:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16120 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 09:12:16 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Without COM.SYS or VCOM.SYS Date: 22 Feb 1997 14:12:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5emuru$e0p$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997Feb22.122324.4109@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6640 In article <1997Feb22.122324.4109@lafn.org>, Dallas Legan wrote: : I found that I could run MS-DOS Kermit under Specific DOS in OS/2 : by commenting out the : : DEVICE=some\path\COM.SYS : DEVICE=some\other\path\VCOM.SYS : What is the reason behind this? : There must be some disadvantages or restrictions on this, : but what? You may only run applications in a "Boot from DOS" environment. : Can anyone out there confirm that these *.SYS files are absolutely needed : for running C-Kermit and Kermit-95 under OS/2? VCOM.SYS is for running DOS/WinOS2 applications. COM.SYS is the real OS/2 communications device driver. : If they are, this would seem to imply that MS-DOS Kermit is : more independent of the operating system enviroment it is : running in, in some sense, where the other versions are : better suited to multitasking environments I would think. Of course, MSK is designed to be run on the bare hardware since DOS does not provide any support for multitasking or serial communicaitons. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 24 05:02:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06042 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA05107 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:02:19 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerci.atl.hp.com!news From: John Bigg Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems with macro parameters containing spaces. Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:55:18 +0000 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co. Lines: 37 Distribution: world Message-ID: <33116586.13DA@uksr.hp.com> References: <330DE341.6927@uksr.hp.com> <5eks95$lq2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hppine38.uksr.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/715) CC: jbigg@uksr.hp.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6641 Frank da Cruz wrote: > : By the way, \fchecksum and \fhexify are great additions to kermit 6, > : they have simplified my implementation of TAP and UCP protocols > : immensely. > : > That was the idea :-) C-Kermit 6.0 already comes with a simple TAP script. > You used this as a model? No although I wish I had had it at the time! I wrote my paging script using C-Kermit 5A. I spent hours searching for a definition of the TAP protocol before I found it documented. > > What is UCP? UCP (Universal Computer Protocol) is another similar protocol which is used primarily by phone companies who allow messages to be sent to their digital mobile phones that handle SMS messages (Short Message Service). I believe digital mobile phones are more prevalent in Europe than the USA. Part of this protocol involves converting the text into a stream of hex representations of the characters, just like hexify. hexify is much faster than doing this from a script though :) > > - Frank John -- ______________________________________________________________________ John D. Bigg Email: jbigg@uksr.hp.com HP-UX WTEC Engineer Desk: John Bigg/HP8005/S1 Hewlett Packard Ltd HP URL: http://hppine38.uksr.hp.com/ Nine Mile Ride, Wokingham Telephone: +44 (0)1344 763038 Berkshire, RG40 3LL Voicemail: +44 (0)1344 367518 United Kingdom Telnet: 315-3038 From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 24 10:45:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04130 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:45:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10198 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:45:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg Teater" Subject: K95 work with USR Winmodem? Message-ID: <01bc2207$b35f1640$5034afce@greg> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:01:17 -0800 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-9.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!ubtgmsna03!uptgmsnb01 Lines: 20 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6642 I currently use Hyperterminal 2 as my terminal emulator. I am unhappy with its VT100 emulation. I need a terminal emulator that does good VT100 emulation and will work with a USR WinModem (WinModem does not support DOS comm programs nor will it work with the old Window 3.1 terminal.exe). I also need an emulator that will allow me to connect test equipment to comm1 for downloading onto my PC using Xon Xoff or hardware flow control at 9600 or 19,200. I am using WIN95. Will Kermit 95 handle all of this? I am familiar with Kermit (used it on Dos 2.11 and CP/M systems, even had the Digital VT180 and Rainbow specific versions) but since I became Windowized (sigh), I have lost contact with old reliable. Maybe its time I came back ... - Greg From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 24 11:16:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09381 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11834 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:16:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 work with USR Winmodem? Date: 24 Feb 1997 16:16:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5eset2$9iq$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc2207$b35f1640$5034afce@greg> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6643 In article <01bc2207$b35f1640$5034afce@greg>, Greg Teater wrote: : I currently use Hyperterminal 2 as my terminal emulator. I am unhappy with : its VT100 emulation. I need a terminal emulator that does good VT100 : emulation and will work with a USR WinModem (WinModem does not support DOS : comm programs nor will it work with the old Window 3.1 terminal.exe). : : I also need an emulator that will allow me to connect test equipment to : comm1 for downloading onto my PC using Xon Xoff or hardware flow control at : 9600 or 19,200. : : I am using WIN95. Will Kermit 95 handle all of this? : Yes, but with one caveat: the Xon/Xoff flow control doesn't work too well due to a quirk of the Windows comm driver. RTS/CTS works fine, though. (But at 9600 or 19200 bps, you probably won't need much flow control anyway unless your PC is remarkably slow or busy). : I am familiar with : Kermit (used it on Dos 2.11 and CP/M systems, even had the Digital VT180 : and Rainbow specific versions) but since I became Windowized (sigh), I have : lost contact with old reliable. Maybe its time I came back ... We'd be happy to have you :-) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 24 12:14:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21362 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14597 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:14:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU!lusgr From: lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU (Stephen G. Roseman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit, directory name being ignored on GET Date: 24 Feb 1997 16:51:03 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5esgtn$1f2f@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> References: <5ecll4$5oc@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> <5edg3f$oq6$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chili.cc.lehigh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6644 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: > Pathnames are ignored (stripped) when receiving files unless you tell > C-Kermit to: > SET RECEIVE PATHNAMES ON That did the trick. Thanks. (note: HELP SET RECEIVE still shows the default as ON) Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Roseman Lehigh University Computing Center lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.Edu From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 24 13:15:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04359 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:15:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24211 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:15:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.icm.edu.pl!uw.edu.pl!news.nask.pl!usenet From: "Pawel Piwowar" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit protocol sources Date: 24 Feb 1997 18:14:28 GMT Organization: Public NewsServer at NASK N.O.C. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bc2287$06703ec0$6afa88c3@pp_nt> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup6.telbank.pl X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6645 Do anybody know where can I find sources for any Windows program which suport kermit protocol ? I need a library with "dll" format. Pawel societegen@telbank.pl From news@columbia.edu Mon Feb 24 14:04:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14826 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28662 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:04:46 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit protocol sources Date: 24 Feb 1997 19:04:41 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5esoo9$jj2$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <01bc2287$06703ec0$6afa88c3@pp_nt> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6646 In article <01bc2287$06703ec0$6afa88c3@pp_nt>, Pawel Piwowar wrote: : Do anybody know where can I find sources for any Windows program which : suport kermit protocol? I need a library with "dll" format. : >From our FAQ: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt 30 IS THERE A KERMIT LIBRARY? No, there is not a Kermit library, DLL, or other type of Kermit module designed purely for embedding in other applications. We recommend that those who wish to embed communications functions -- connection establishment, logging in and other dialogs, file management, data transfer -- do so by invoking an existing Kermit program -- MS-DOS Kermit for DOS or Windows 3.x, Kermit 95 for Windows 95 or NT, C-Kermit for UNIX or VMS, etc -- from within their application by a combination of command-line arguments and command files (Kermit script programs). The situation might change in the future, but for now that is the answer. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 26 02:44:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06748 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA28805 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:44:55 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.mail.uucp Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news.ppp.net!mazhh!news From: "Henning R. Eggers" Subject: Re: HDB lock files X-Nntp-Posting-Host: luna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3312EBA3.59E2B600@REMOVE_TO_REPLYmaz-hh.de> Sender: news@maz-hh.de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: MAZ Hamburg GmbH References: <5ei8ra$ipp@nntp.interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:39:47 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6647 comp.mail.uucp:15513 Chuck P. Brown wrote: > > Given the following lock file: /var/spool/locks/LK.047.098.134, the 098 > is the major and the 134 the minor device numbers. Where does the 047 > come from? > PID? Just a guess... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Henning R. Eggers, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) hre@maz-hh.de bei MAZ Hamburg GmbH, GB Breitbandkommunikation -> Unless stated otherwise, all views expressed are my own. <- From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 26 02:58:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08953 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA29394 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:58:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newsin.iconnet.net!world5.bellatlantic.net!news From: Joe Beck Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit--Warning, problem getting exclusive access Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:42:24 -0500 Organization: Bell Atlantic Internet Solutions Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3313BF30.1156@bellatlantic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: client-126-1.bellatlantic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Win95; U) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6648 Warning, problem getting exclusive access I've been having a good deal of difficulty getting a CODEX modem hanging off an IBM RS/6000 980 - AIX 3.2.5 configured to dial out. When first working on it, I used kermit to attempt to connect and dial out. After going into kermit and typing set modem hayes followed by set line /dev/tty35 I kept getting the message: Warning, problem getting exclusive access. Then I tried using cu to test the modem. Some uucp configuring was required as was adding the -u -r switches to the getty entry in the inittab file. This followed by changing an additional setting on the modem side permitted me to dial out of the modem off of tty35 using cu. However, I keep getting the same warning referencing exclusive access when I try to use kermit. I tried a couple things and I just dug up info regarding uucp. I found a /etc/locks/LCK..tty35 file and thought that deleting this may help? Could someone enlighten me on what I'm doing wrong or what the details are if uucp is creating some contention with kermit or if this warning has nothing to do with uucp or ... I'd greatly appreciate any feedback. jmbeck@bellatlantic.net From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 26 07:08:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23716 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA01227 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:08:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!Eindhoven.NL.net!Leiden.NL.net!chagall.cti-software.nl!news From: pim@chagall.cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: sharing kermit scripts; K95 and C-Kermit Date: 26 Feb 1997 12:43:45 +0100 Organization: CTI Software BV, The Hague, the Netherlands Message-ID: <5f17lh$pds@chagall.cti-software.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: chagall.cti-software.nl X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 CURRENT #2 Lines: 12 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6649 I'd like to use the same Kermit scripts both for C-kermit in Unix (Linux, AIX) and K95. But I'd like to be able to run conditional commands depending on whether it is executed by C-Kermit 5, C-Kermit 6 or K95. How to do this ? -- E-mail : Pim Zandbergen S-mail : Laan Copes van Cattenburch 70, 2585 GD The Hague, The Netherlands Phone : +31 70 3067373 Fax : +31 70 3067374 From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 26 10:06:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18465 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09781 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:06:04 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit--Warning, problem getting exclusive access Date: 26 Feb 1997 15:06:03 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5f1jgr$a69$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3313BF30.1156@bellatlantic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6650 In article <3313BF30.1156@bellatlantic.net>, Joe Beck wrote: : I've been having a good deal of difficulty getting a CODEX modem hanging off : an IBM RS/6000 980 - AIX 3.2.5 configured to dial out. When first working on : it, I used kermit to attempt to connect and dial out. After going into : kermit and typing set modem hayes followed by set line /dev/tty35 I kept : getting the message: Warning, problem getting exclusive access. : It sounds like you are using an old version of C-Kermit. The current version is 6.0.192: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html Please pick it up. And read the UNIX appendix of the manual, "Using C-Kermit", which explains the situation with UUCP lockfiles. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 26 14:37:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16097 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22811 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:37:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: How to write a simple script? Help! From: piazza@sanet.com.br (Fernando Piazza) Organization: Piazza X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:27:12 -0500 Lines: 7 Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.231.210.23!news.internetco.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6651 I need to write a simple script to automate kermit. It should do the following: SET LINE /dev/modem SET SPEED 38400 CONNECT (wait for 2 seconds) ATZ (disconnect from modem) QUIT If anyone can help me with this... Thanks. From news@columbia.edu Wed Feb 26 20:51:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21125 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA11005 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:51:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbreeder.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver2.jvnc.net!nntpserver.pppl.gov!usenet From: arousset@true.net (augusto rousset) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Help to read file... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:45:57 GMT Organization: Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: arousset.dialup.true.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6652 I received an e-mail with the following message in it. ¿Can someone tell me how to view the binary file, protocol Kermit or X-modem? > Sigue archivo binario - Capturelo con "c" y el protocolo Kermit o X-modem >BINARY FILE FOLLOWS >xbtoa Begin Translated: >Follows binary file- Capture it with "c" and protocol Kermit or X-modem >BINARY FILE FOLLOWS >xbtoa Begin Thaks in advance Augusto Rousset arousset@true.net From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 27 08:07:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08081 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00285 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:07:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!highway.leidenuniv.nl!usenet From: Mark Barto Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: VT340 emulation Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:52:01 +0100 Organization: AZL Lines: 1 Message-ID: <33158371.285C@CDIV.AZL.NL> Reply-To: MBARTO@CDIV.AZL.NL NNTP-Posting-Host: bastion.azl.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6653 Is it possible to emulate a VT340 terminal with K95? From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 27 12:40:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19551 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14478 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:40:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!zippo!news From: cksam@macau.ctm.netX (SAM, Chi-Kin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How to write a simple script? Help! Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:57:42 GMT Organization: Tecnologia Electronica Hermes Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5f3iju$lbb@lex.zippo.com> References: Reply-To: cksam@macau.ctm.netX NNTP-Posting-Host: c19line12.macau.ctm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6654 On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:27:12 -0500, piazza@sanet.com.br (Fernando Piazza) wrote: > I need to write a simple script to automate kermit. > >It should do the following: > >SET LINE /dev/modem >SET SPEED 38400 >CONNECT > >(wait for 2 seconds) > >ATZ > >(disconnect from modem) > >QUIT > You have written most of it: SET LINE /dev/modem SET SPEED 38400 PAUSE 2 OUPUT ATZ INPUT 2 OK EXIT save above line as init.scr, then "kermit take init.scr". What are your really want to do? Just using kermit to initial the modem? ...SAM =========================================================================== SAM, Chi-Kin (Mr.) at Hermes Electronics Technology Co. in MACAU Tel: +(853)963609 Fax: +(853)511456 PGP key: http://macau.ctm.net/~cksam e-mail: cksam@macau.ctm.net Mailing-addr.: P.O.Box 831, Macau, South CHINA =========================================================================== From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 27 13:04:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24125 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15578 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:04:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.115.134.241!newsfeed.gte.net!usenet From: Jon Mulkey Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 - SERIAL to Multiplexor Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:03:06 -0600 Organization: XL Connect Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3315CC5A.7F0A@gte.net> Reply-To: jonm@gte.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dfw74052.gte.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6655 Moving from very old version of Dos Kermit. We use a serial connection (adapter for CAT5) to a 6-port MUX(multiplexor) which then dials out through a modem. There doesn't seem to be anything addressing this type of connectivity. Any ideas??? From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 27 13:54:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04312 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17962 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:54:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help to read file... Date: 27 Feb 1997 18:54:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6656 In article <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov>, augusto rousset wrote: : I received an e-mail with the following message in it. ¿Can someone : tell me how to view the binary file, protocol Kermit or X-modem? : : > Sigue archivo binario - Capturelo con "c" y el protocolo Kermit o X-modem : >BINARY FILE FOLLOWS : >xbtoa Begin : Translated: : >Follows binary file- Capture it with "c" and protocol Kermit or X-modem : >BINARY FILE FOLLOWS : >xbtoa Begin : It's not really a Kermit question. You got this text in an email message, right? This is yet another example of people sending you things in email that you can't read. "btoa" means "binary to ascii" -- the opposite of "atob". It's a pair of UNIX programs like uuencode/uudecode, but different. Of course everybody who sends email assumes that the people they are sending it to have exactly the same hardware and software, and so use any kind of platform- depending encoding methods they know about. btoa and atob are not standard parts of UNIX -- you have to hunt around the Internet to find them. I don't know what the difference between btoa and xbtoa might be. Of course if you are not on a UNIX system then you probably can't read this file at all. Whenever I get mail like this (e.g. a Microsoft Word document as a MIME attachment) -- which happens about 37 times a day -- I simply return the message to the sender and remind them that not everybody is using the same hardware and software that they are, and ask them to resend it in some format that I have a prayer of dealing with. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 27 13:56:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04650 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18038 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:56:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: VT340 emulation Date: 27 Feb 1997 18:56:11 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5f4lcb$7i1$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33158371.285C@CDIV.AZL.NL> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6657 In article <33158371.285C@CDIV.AZL.NL>, Mark Barto wrote: : Is it possible to emulate a VT340 terminal with K95? : It's possible to emulate the text parts of a VT340 with K95. It is not yet possible to emulate the graphics parts (e.g. ReGIS, Tek). Tek and Sixel will come later, ReGIS probably never unless something happens to convince us it is worth the enormous effort required. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Feb 27 13:59:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05067 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18199 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:59:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 - SERIAL to Multiplexor Date: 27 Feb 1997 18:59:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5f4lhs$7k0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3315CC5A.7F0A@gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6658 In article <3315CC5A.7F0A@gte.net>, Jon Mulkey wrote: : Moving from very old version of Dos Kermit. We use a serial connection : (adapter for CAT5) to a 6-port MUX(multiplexor) which then dials out : through a modem. There doesn't seem to be anything addressing this type : of connectivity. Any ideas??? : So you have a direct connection between your PC's serial port and a serial port on a multiplexor which connects you to a modem. Of course K95 addresses this type of connectivity. It's called a "reverse terminal server". If you are having trouble with it, please send a detailed and specific report to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 03:48:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22790 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA01413 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:48:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbreeder.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!206.63.63.70!nwnews.wa.com!brokaw.wa.com!not-for-mail From: Ken Pizzini Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help to read file... Date: 28 Feb 1997 08:15:37 GMT Organization: _ Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5f6479$sdq$1@brokaw.wa.com> References: <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov> <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chinook.halcyon.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6659 In article <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: >btoa and atob are not standard parts of UNIX -- you have to hunt around the >Internet to find them. I don't know what the difference between btoa and >xbtoa might be. Of course if you are not on a UNIX system then you probably >can't read this file at all. Sources to [x]btoa can be found in comp.sources.unix volume 18. I don't know why the ".unix" was used -- this is not Unix specific code. You will need a C compiler to use it though. For this specific case, provided you have access to a C compiler, one can get around the problem of someone choosing a specialized encoding, but I agree with Frank that it is quite annoying that people blindly send attachments in program-specific formats without first verifying that the recipient can handle such a format. --Ken Pizzini From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 04:20:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26130 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA02911 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:20:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.smart.net!not-for-mail From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Accessing serial port Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:57:45 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Lines: 13 Message-ID: <33169E09.2A49@smart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.153.50.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6660 I have attached an external ISDN modem to my computer. It has an ethernet connection for the network and is also connected to the 1st serial port with a DB9 cable so that I can access and configure it. I am trying to use C-kermit to access it. I am using the NEXTSTEP operating system which uses a BSD style device name convention. I have tried using the command SET LINE /dev/cufa and SET LINE /dev/cuf0 to try to connect to it, but I get the error message that the device name not found. What would be the sequence of commands I should use to connect to my ISDN modem? --Greg From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 06:06:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14555 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA12336 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:06:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!demos!Gamma.RU!srcc!Radio-MSU.net!not-for-mail From: "Andrew A. Ivanov" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: It's possible receive files in background? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:14:53 +0300 Organization: MICS Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3316318D.7978@mics.msu.su> Reply-To: ivanov@mics.msu.su NNTP-Posting-Host: ham.mics.msu.su Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6661 Hi! I'm using C-Kermit 5A(190) for HP-UX 10.0 I have serial connection between our HP workstation and Panasonic modular switching system, it is sending some data over serial cable. What I need: _background_ task to receive this data and append them to an appropriate file. That's all. I've already tried many times kermit and cu, they works fine in foreground, but in background they stucks. Please help me. Any help will be appreciated. Thanx. Andrew. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 11:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02163 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13967 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:14:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: It's possible receive files in background? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:14:28 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 42 Message-ID: <5f7094$hc4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3316318D.7978@mics.msu.su> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6662 In article <3316318D.7978@mics.msu.su>, Andrew A. Ivanov wrote: : I'm using C-Kermit 5A(190) for HP-UX 10.0 : I have serial connection between our HP workstation : and Panasonic modular switching system, it is sending some data : over serial cable. : What I need: _background_ task to receive this data and append them : to an appropriate file. That's all. : I've already tried many times kermit and cu, they works fine in : foreground, but in background they stucks. : Probably C-Kermit is getting stuck because it wants to print a message to stdout. If you start it with the -q option, it will be "quiet". Now, let's assume there is a maximum amount of time that you want to capture the data (let's say, 600 seconds), and there is a marker to show the end of the data (let's say it's "End of Data"). Now suppose you have a C-Kermit script file called capture.ksc, containing (for example): set line /dev/tty01 set speed 19200 set flow rts/cts log session panasonic.log input 600 End of Data close session exit Start C-Kermit like this: kermit panasonic.log -q & In case any messages are still leaking out, then do it like this: kermit panasonic.log -q > /dev/null & By the way, the current version of C-Kermit is 6.0: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 11:21:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03468 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14290 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:21:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Accessing serial port Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:21:33 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5f70md$hp8$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33169E09.2A49@smart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6663 In article <33169E09.2A49@smart.net>, wrote: : I have attached an external ISDN modem to my computer. : It has an ethernet connection for the network and is : also connected to the 1st serial port with a DB9 cable : so that I can access and configure it. I am trying to : use C-kermit to access it. I am using the NEXTSTEP : operating system which uses a BSD style device name : convention. I have tried using the command SET LINE : /dev/cufa and SET LINE /dev/cuf0 to try to connect to : it, but I get the error message that the device name : not found. : This message means the device can't be found. /dev/cufa is the hardware-flow-control driver for the first serial port. Look in your /dev directory for files with names starting with cu: % cd /dev % ls -lg cu* crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,192 Jul 30 1992 cua crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,193 Jul 30 1992 cub crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,224 Jul 30 1992 cufa crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp wheel 11,225 Jul 30 1992 cufb % If it's not there, then just use /dev/cua. I doubt that hardware flow control is very important on the modem's command console. For further info, consult your NeXTSTEP sys admin documentation or man pages. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 12:53:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22027 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21438 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:53:20 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 - SERIAL to Multiplexor Message-ID: <1997Feb28.094848.95039@cc.usu.edu> Date: 28 Feb 97 09:48:48 MDT References: <3315CC5A.7F0A@gte.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 13 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6664 In article <3315CC5A.7F0A@gte.net>, Jon Mulkey writes: > Moving from very old version of Dos Kermit. We use a serial connection > (adapter for CAT5) to a 6-port MUX(multiplexor) which then dials out > through a modem. There doesn't seem to be anything addressing this type > of connectivity. Any ideas??? ------------ If you mean the PC has a regular serial port then MS-DOS Kermit deals with that very nicely. On the other hand, if you mean the PC has a specialized (kind unstated) comms board then clearly that board is unlikely to be supported. Kermit scripts are able to deal with ASCII handshaking exchanges to external multiplexors in most cases. Beyond this I would need a translation of terms in your message. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 14:43:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15615 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA26817 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:43:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!news.inc.net!not-for-mail From: "Nels P. Olsen" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Using telnet command in scripts? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:42:39 -0600 Organization: Penta Technologies, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3317352F.2932@PentaTechInc.com> Reply-To: Nels.Olsen@PentaTechInc.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.17.220.30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6665 I'm trying to use the telnet command in a kermit script. Unfortunately, the documentation says that the telnet command automatically enters CONNECT mode. This prevents the script from continuing to login to a modem server. Does anyone know how to use the telnet command in a script? -- Nels Olsen Penta Technologies, Inc. From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 14:57:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18107 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA27547 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:57:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Using telnet command in scripts? Date: 28 Feb 1997 19:57:24 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5f7db4$42t$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3317352F.2932@PentaTechInc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6666 In article <3317352F.2932@PentaTechInc.com>, Nels P. Olsen wrote: : I'm trying to use the telnet command in a kermit script. : Unfortunately, the documentation says that the telnet command : automatically enters CONNECT mode. This prevents the script : from continuing to login to a modem server. : The TELNET command is a shortcut for SET NETWORK TCP/IP, SET HOST to the desired host, and then if successful CONNECT. So, like it says in the manual, "Using C-Kermit", which includes three chapters on script programming with numerous examples, use SET HOST in scripts if you want subsequent i/o to be done by script commands. Use TELNET in scripts only if you want to turn control over to the user at the keyboard. Find more information about the manual at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Feb 28 18:04:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22835 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06501 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:04:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ux2.cso.uiuc.edu!shair From: rmshair@uiuc.edu (Bob Shair) Newsgroups: uiuc.classifieds.computer,comp.protocols.kermit.misc,uiuc.org.os2ug Subject: FS: Using C-Kermit, 1993 edition Date: 28 Feb 1997 23:00:25 GMT Organization: Bob Shair Consulting Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5f7o29$m7q@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Originator: shair@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6667 Having just received a copy of the 1997 edition of "Using C-Kermit" with Kermit-95, I have a copy of the original which I can let go for $10. Unlike the newer version, it has copious chapter discussing the special features of C-Kermit under OS/2. (I presume that when I get Kermit-95 for OS/2, I'll receive a third copy of Using C-Kermit. The manual is a model of how technical documentation should be written, but I don't need three copies.) -- Bob Shair Open Systems Consultant 1018 W. Springfield Avenue rmshair@uiuc.edu Champaign, IL 61821 217/356-2684 < Not employed by or representing the University of Illinois > From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 1 06:58:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18655 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 06:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA07677 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 06:58:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!sun4nl!surfnet.nl!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!bromo.switch.ch!ubnsrv.unisource.ch!newssrv.ita.tip.net!venere.inet.it!urano.inet.it!news@inet.it From: rober@proxys.it (Roberto Perelli) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Using K95 kermit for PPP internet conections Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 11:14:44 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Message-ID: <33180e36.9321068@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: proxys.inet.it X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 9 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6668 I'm using K95 Kermit in my communication application to estabilish various kind of connections, plain modem, X.28, TCP/IP + telnet. I'd like to add the capability of connecting to an Internet provider with PPP or SLIP protocol and then running NETSCAPE, FTP and so on. Is this possible with K95? If yes where is it documented? Thank you. (a kermit fan) From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 1 11:27:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19376 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21977 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:27:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Using K95 kermit for PPP internet conections Date: 1 Mar 1997 16:27:27 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5f9ldf$9ec$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33180e36.9321068@news.inet.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6669 In article <33180e36.9321068@news.inet.it>, Roberto Perelli wrote: : I'm using K95 Kermit in my communication application to estabilish : various kind of connections, plain modem, X.28, TCP/IP + telnet. : I'd like to add the capability of connecting to an Internet provider : with PPP or SLIP protocol and then running NETSCAPE, FTP and so on. : Is this possible with K95? : If yes where is it documented? K95 may be used over a PPP connection since a PPP connection provides TCP/IP network services. However, the connection must be made with either Windows 95's Dial Up Networking or Windows NT's Remote Access Services. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 2 01:21:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10633 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 01:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA08605 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 01:21:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!taal.Stanford.EDU!stew From: stew@taal.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Date: 2 Mar 1997 06:18:56 GMT Organization: Stanford Exploration Project Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: taal.stanford.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6670 C-Kermit 6.0.192 on both ends (Linux and Sun OS 4.1.3) Binary file transfer mode FAST invoked on both ends before transfer SEND'ing a large file from the Sun to the PC produces 20 rapid packets followed by a much slower one-at-a-time crawl and the message that I am using 1 of 20 window slots. Cancelling the file takes 20 more packets to complete. This happens whether or not I use the SET BUFFERS 100000 100000 command on both ends. Similarly with CAUTIOUS on both ends. Looks like it's the Linux end that's misbehaving. Have I overlooked something in the Using C-Kermit 2nd ed. chapter 12? Is there a patch I should retrieve? - Stew Levin stew@sep.stanford.edu From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 2 12:30:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27751 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04701 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:30:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!iafrica.com!uct.uni.net.za!ru.uni.net.za!psgrain!news.rain.net!pacifier!mikef From: mikef@pacifier.com (Mike Freeman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Date: 2 Mar 1997 17:01:36 GMT Organization: Pacifier Online Data Service Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5fcbpg$iqv$1@news.pacifier.com> References: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: pacifier.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6671 In article <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, Stewart Levin wrote: > >C-Kermit 6.0.192 on both ends (Linux and Sun OS 4.1.3) >Binary file transfer mode >FAST invoked on both ends before transfer > >SEND'ing a large file from the Sun to the PC produces >20 rapid packets followed by a much slower one-at-a-time >crawl and the message that I am using 1 of 20 window slots. >Cancelling the file takes 20 more packets to complete. >This happens whether or not I use the SET BUFFERS 100000 100000 >command on both ends. Similarly with CAUTIOUS on both ends. > Are you sure you have a full eight-bit path for the binary transfer? What happens if you "set parity space" on both ends prior to the transfer? -- Mike Freeman; Internet: mikef@pacifier.com Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ /* PGP Public Key available by "fingering" my account */ .. A Student who changes the course of history is probably taking an exam. From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 05:35:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14873 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA22380 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 05:35:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!demos!demos2!Gamma.RU!srcc!Radio-MSU.net!not-for-mail From: "Andrew A. Ivanov" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: It's possible receive files in background? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 12:17:14 +0300 Organization: MICS Lines: 26 Message-ID: <331A971A.753D@mics.msu.su> References: <3316318D.7978@mics.msu.su> <5f7094$hc4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: ivanov@mics.msu.su NNTP-Posting-Host: ham.mics.msu.su Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6672 Frank da Cruz wrote: > Probably C-Kermit is getting stuck because it wants to print a message > to stdout. If you start it with the -q option, it will be "quiet". Oh, I have already tried -q and many other swithes, I guess it wants read command from stdin (no script specified in command line). > > Now, let's assume there is a maximum amount of time that you want to > capture the data (let's say, 600 seconds), and there is a marker to show > the end of the data (let's say it's "End of Data"). Hm.. Is it possible to not make any assumption about time (may be next data will be in next week)? It is not a file but simple continuous _log_ without end marker. > > In case any messages are still leaking out, then do it like this: > kermit panasonic.log -q > /dev/null & I have tried kermit with command line like this: kermit -kq >>phone.log 2>>phone.err > By the way, the current version of C-Kermit is 6.0: > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html Thanks, but new version also doesn't work :-( > > - Frank Bye. Andrew. From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 11:14:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04411 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27288 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:14:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Date: 3 Mar 1997 16:14:12 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5fetck$bde$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6673 In article <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, Stewart Levin wrote: : C-Kermit 6.0.192 on both ends (Linux and Sun OS 4.1.3) : Binary file transfer mode : FAST invoked on both ends before transfer : : SEND'ing a large file from the Sun to the PC produces : 20 rapid packets followed by a much slower one-at-a-time : crawl and the message that I am using 1 of 20 window slots. : Cancelling the file takes 20 more packets to complete. : This means the round-trip delay is significantly longer than the time it takes to transmit 20 packets. Sind the FAST macro gives you a packet length of 4K, that means 80K worth of packets. What happens if you increase the window slots to 30 (which is close to the maximum)? If the connection is clean (no retransmissions) then you can also try increasing the packet length up to 8 or 9K. On the other hand, if the delays are not due to connection latency, none of this will help -- there is another bottleneck that you need to indentify, most likely limited capacity of the receiving computer or other intermediate device (such as a terminal server). In that case, there's not much you can do in Kermit to overcome the limitations of the underlying connection; you'll need to address them directly. But first see if you can narrow down exactly where the bottleneck is. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 11:22:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05980 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27771 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:22:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: It's possible receive files in background? Date: 3 Mar 1997 16:22:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5fetrg$bqe$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3316318D.7978@mics.msu.su> <5f7094$hc4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <331A971A.753D@mics.msu.su> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6674 In article <331A971A.753D@mics.msu.su>, Andrew A. Ivanov wrote: : Frank da Cruz wrote: : > Probably C-Kermit is getting stuck because it wants to print a message : > to stdout. If you start it with the -q option, it will be "quiet". : : Oh, I have already tried -q and many other swithes, I guess it wants : read command from stdin (no script specified in command line). : OK, so specify a script file on the command line. : > Now, let's assume there is a maximum amount of time that you want to : > capture the data (let's say, 600 seconds), and there is a marker to show : > the end of the data (let's say it's "End of Data"). : : Hm.. Is it possible to not make any assumption about time (may be next : data will be in next week)? It is not a file but simple continuous _log_ : without end marker. : If it was not a background session, then you could put Kermit into CONNECT mode and use "log session" to record everything. But CONNECT only works in the foreground because it must read from the keyboard (stdin) and write to the screen (stdout). You can use INPUT in the background, but INPUT must be given a timeout and a termination string. If you want it to record for an indefinite amount of time, use a loop, like: set input echo off set input timeout proceed log session while true { input 600 xxx } To terminate the session, put the job in the foreground, Ctrl-C, and "close session" (or just "exit"). - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 19:43:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07079 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21478 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:43:43 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!sun3.hrz.uni-essen.de!sl0528 From: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit via INT14h Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 18:51:14 +0100 Organization: Essen University, Germany Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <1997Feb21.080628.94647@cc.usu.edu> Reply-To: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Originator: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6675 jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) wrote in comp.protocols.kermit.misc: > I am having difficulty following your report. MSK's Int14h support > does work, and there are many flavors of Int14 which it supports. > Without knowing what you tried and what happened I can't comment > further. I want to use Kermit as telnet client with TCPPORT.EXE from WATTCP as redirector. In this case, TCPPORT handles the whole TCP/IP stuff and Kermit only does the terminal emulation - mine does it obviously incorrect. > Translation: your link requires a PPP connection. Fine. After CarrierDetect the terminal server waits for about 15 seconds to get a PAP handshake via LCP; if this fails I automaticly get a shell account, and from this point on there is no way to establish a PPP connect. For this reason I can't dial in with Kermit and then start PPP as it is described in msk315.doc. > ETHERPPP does work because I've tested it. Fine! On my site ETHERPPP causes stout trouble doing PAP handshake when userid and password are transmitted by the config.ppp file. > Thus trying to emulate Ethernet in a PPP driver creates serious > difficulties dealing with ARP and IP gateways and so on. Yepp, but - as far as I see - only when Kermit itself handles the TCP/IP stuff (see above). I've got telnet run using another terminal program and it works fine; so why Kermit doesn't? It's too bad about that, because I like Kermit very much ... Bye, Thomas. -- ********** Thomas Pothmann ********* ** sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de ** From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 19:44:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07104 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21493 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 19:44:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.apfel.de!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!sun3.hrz.uni-essen.de!sl0528 From: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit via INT14h Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:36:36 +0100 Organization: Essen University, Germany Lines: 27 Message-ID: <0cHGz8Q0+f/F092yn@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <5elp42$csr@lex.zippo.com> Reply-To: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Originator: sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6676 cksam@macau.ctm.net (SAM, Chi-Kin) wrote in comp.protocols.kermit.misc: > I am playing with MS-Kermit version 3.15 beta 18, I tested it > working with PPPshare fine. Oops, how that? As far as I know, Kermit can't handle ethernet and by reason of this I tried to make it work via INT14h redirection. > I do not using INT14h. I just setup up and load PPPshare as usual. > Then I make the following changes in mskermit.ini / mscustom.ini: > set port tcp nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (the host I want to connect) set tcp > addr dhcp (my isp can provide dhcp or bootp) then I can telnet to > any hosts now. I've tried this way, too. But I always get an error message and Kermit complains, that it can not resolve the site called for; thereafter the PPP link is broken as I wrote. BTW: My isp doesn't provide neither bootp nor dhcp. Bye, Thomas. -- ********** Thomas Pothmann ********* ** sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de ** From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 21:14:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16138 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25759 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:14:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cbgw2.lucent.com!news.bu.edu!usenet From: Matthew Swift Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: send file conditionally baesd on timestamp? Date: 03 Mar 1997 20:53:48 -0500 Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA Lines: 11 Sender: swift@localhost.BU.EDU Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-86-14.bu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.13/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6677 The 2d-latest edition of the Kermit manual for Ckermit does not seem to yield a way to script sending a file if it is newer than the remote version. I am moving files from one Unix machine to another, and thus could come up with a jury-rig way, but perhaps there is a better way in kermit that I am missing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 3 23:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00374 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA01835 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:20:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: send file conditionally baesd on timestamp? Date: 4 Mar 1997 04:20:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5fg7to$pf4$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6678 In article , Matthew Swift wrote: : : The 2d-latest edition of the Kermit manual for Ckermit does not seem : to yield a way to script sending a file if it is newer than the remote : version. SET FILE COLLISION UPDATE COLLISION tells what to do when a file arrives that has the same name as an existing file. The options are: BACKUP (default) - Rename the old file to a new, unique name and store the incoming file under the name it was sent with. OVERWRITE - Overwrite (replace) the existing file. APPEND - Append the incoming file to the end of the existing file. DISCARD - Refuse and/or discard the incoming file. RENAME - Give the incoming file a unique name. UPDATE - Accept the incoming file only if it is newer than the existing file. Example: SET FILE COLLISION UPDATE This command needs to be set on the receiving side. If you are talking to a Kermit SERVER you may use the REMOTE version of the command. 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From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 06:40:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06263 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA08507 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 06:39:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!eurocontrol.fr!polaris.eurocontrol.fr!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: 38432@w45systems.org Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Date: 4 Mar 1997 06:15:10 GMT Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <5fgele$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <5fgele$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Approved: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr X-Cancelled-By: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) X-Newsposter: cancel-spam version 1.19 X-no-archive: yes Lines: 9 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:2245456 ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Tue Mar 4 09:55:41 1997 Original subject was: Salma Hayek, Jenny McCarthy & more..! From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 07:47:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09529 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 07:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11939 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 07:47:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!news.gte.com!news-in.tiac.net!posterchild!max.tiac.net!mreagan From: mreagan@tiac.net Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: move to k95 from msk315 Date: 4 Mar 1997 12:45:04 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5fh5gg$c7o@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: max.tiac.net Originator: mreagan@max.tiac.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6680 I'm having difficulties moving from MS-kermit 3.15 to K95 with a Diamond/Supra 33.6 modem. Is there a FAQ for the specific changes to be expected, something like "Help for old friends"? How can I get around the inadequate "built-in modem knowledge"? My old SUPRA336.SCR still beats the K95 configuration. From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 08:19:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11283 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA13453 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 08:19:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!europa.clark.net!news.msfc.nasa.gov!wilbur.ohww.norman.ok.us!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5fh1v5$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 13:10:59 GMT Control: cancel <5fh1v5$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Sender: brianf@cspanns.net X-Cancelled-By: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us X-No-Archive: Yes Approved: y Lines: 2 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:2248388 Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: This is great. Like iced tea! From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 10:10:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24817 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18848 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:10:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: send file conditionally baesd on timestamp? Date: 4 Mar 1997 15:10:36 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5fhe1c$hrb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6681 In article , Matthew Swift wrote: : : The 2d-latest edition of the Kermit manual for Ckermit does not seem : to yield a way to script sending a file if it is newer than the remote : version. : Chapter 9, page 196. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 10:15:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25662 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:15:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19101 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 10:15:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: move to k95 from msk315 Date: 4 Mar 1997 15:15:29 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5fheah$i4r$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fh5gg$c7o@news-central.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6682 In article <5fh5gg$c7o@news-central.tiac.net>, wrote: : I'm having difficulties moving from MS-kermit 3.15 to K95 : with a Diamond/Supra 33.6 modem. Is there a FAQ for the specific changes : to be expected, something like "Help for old friends"? : How can I get around the inadequate "built-in modem knowledge"? : My old SUPRA336.SCR still beats the K95 configuration. : Briefly: MS-DOS Kermit controls modems via dialing scripts, one per modem. K95 (and C-Kermit) control modems via built-in knowledge of each modem. K95 does support the Supra modem type. Did you try it? -- set modem type supra set port com1 set speed 57600 dial xxxxx If it doesn't work, use "set dial display on" to find out which of the built-in Supra commands is upsetting your Diamond/Supra. Then use the "set modem command" command to adjust Kermit to your modem. See the section "Modifying Modem Commands" (pp.87-89) and "Adding a New Modem Type" (pp.90-92) in "Using C-Kermit", 2nd edition. (If you don't have the second edition, look in your DOCS\MODEMS.DOC file.) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 13:12:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24746 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA27370 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:12:16 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.stealth.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!phishin From: Shawn Wingate Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Color problems with MSKermit Date: 4 Mar 1997 11:09:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5fhog0$s6i@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: phishin@206.165.5.102 (phishin) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6683 Is it possible to put kermit into two color mode? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- phishin phishin@primenet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 13:26:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27054 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28101 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:26:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Color problems with MSKermit Date: 4 Mar 1997 18:26:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5fhph8$3h$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fhog0$s6i@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6684 In article <5fhog0$s6i@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Shawn Wingate wrote: : Is it possible to put kermit into two color mode? : As explained in "Using MS-DOS Kermit", pp.83-84, you can set any colors you like for terminal emulation. Furthermore, as indicated in Appendix II and Table II-17, the host can set the fore- and background colors of each character individually. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 16:38:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02368 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07040 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:38:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-hub.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!moon.why.net!not-for-mail From: Rick Gorton Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: SET FILE NAMES Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:24:01 -0600 Organization: The Why? Network Lines: 9 Message-ID: <331C5AB1.6828@why.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.211.120.88 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6685 I have been working with a script to transmit compressed files from one Unix machine to another Unix machine. I am not having any problems transmitting the compressed files (when I set file type binary on both machines). The problem is that when the file transmits, it ends up on the other end with a .z extension (rather than a .Z extension). I have tried to SET FILE NAMES LITERAL, with no success. I have also tried to have the script send the file using the as-name convention (That was a terrible idea... sent the file with the name of "as-name [filespec]). Is there any way to send the file and keep the ".Z" extension? From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 16:47:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04166 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07528 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:47:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: SET FILE NAMES Date: 4 Mar 1997 21:47:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5fi59q$cbe$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <331C5AB1.6828@why.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6686 In article <331C5AB1.6828@why.net>, Rick Gorton wrote: : I have been working with a script to transmit compressed files from one : Unix machine to another Unix machine. I am not having any problems : transmitting the compressed files (when I set file type binary on both : machines). : You really should need to do this only on the sending machine, but it doesn't hurt to do it in both places. : The problem is that when the file transmits, it ends up on : the other end with a .z extension (rather than a .Z extension). I have : tried to SET FILE NAMES LITERAL, with no success. : SET FILE NAMES LITERAL must be given on both machines, since there is presently no protocol by which one Kermit program tells the other whether a filename is to be interpreted literally. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 19:05:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06114 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA14239 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:05:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!stdio!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!mr.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!mindspring!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: Nassif T Nassif Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: UNIXLOGIN script??? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 16:32:53 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 24 Message-ID: <331C9505.26B0@voice-tel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clv-oh21-12.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Mar 04 3:34:03 PM CST 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6687 I am trying to write a script to login to a unix machine: I am using the unixlogin in "C-kermit" book page 436. In the book example, the part to output the password was omitted but it is fixed in the ckermit.ini file. If I include the macros (NET and UNIXLOGIN) in a script, I was able to login, but then the script will exit from the remote host immediately after I would get the prompt. I want to be able to login and then transfer the control to the user (i.e the keyboard) so whewnever the user execute the script he should not worry about login and password. here is my code: #!/l1/ntn/dev01/kermit/kermit take /l1/ntn/dev01/kermit/ckermit.ini ;ini where macros are defined NET tcp 193.254.220.1 UNIXLOGIN my_usrid mypasswd hangup exit 0 where my_usrid and mypasswd are the generic userid and password respectively under which I want many users to login to my host. Obviously I am missing Something. Nassif T Nassif email: nnassif@voice-tel.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 19:12:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06813 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA14544 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:12:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.cesnet.cz!news.ecrc.de!blackbush.xlink.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!taal.Stanford.EDU!stew From: stew@taal.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Date: 4 Mar 1997 22:57:45 GMT Organization: Stanford Exploration Project Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5fi9d9$ng4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5fetck$bde$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: taal.stanford.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6688 Thanks for all the suggestions I'm working on trying them out. Parity Space did not change the slot count, nor did it affect the integrity of the transmission. Sending a big file the other direction, PC->Sun did activate 19 of 20 window slots over the same connection (and a corresponding satisfying increase in throughput.) - Stew Levin stew@sep.stanford.edu From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 19:22:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08260 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA15117 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:22:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: UNIXLOGIN script??? Date: 5 Mar 1997 00:22:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5fieco$lrh$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <331C9505.26B0@voice-tel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6689 In article <331C9505.26B0@voice-tel.com>, Nassif T Nassif wrote: : I am trying to write a script to login to a unix machine: I am using the : unixlogin in "C-kermit" book page 436. In the book example, the part to : output the password was omitted but it is fixed in the ckermit.ini file. : Good catch -- nobody noticed this before. Oops! : If I include the macros (NET and UNIXLOGIN) in a script, I was able to : login, but then the script will exit from the remote host immediately : after I would get the prompt. I want to be able to login and then : transfer the control to the user (i.e the keyboard) so whewnever the : user execute the script he should not worry about login and password. : here is my code: : #!/l1/ntn/dev01/kermit/kermit : : take /l1/ntn/dev01/kermit/ckermit.ini ;ini where macros are defined : NET tcp 193.254.220.1 : UNIXLOGIN my_usrid mypasswd : hangup : exit 0 : But of course -- you have a HANGUP and an EXIT command in your script. Do it like this: take /l1/ntn/dev01/kermit/ckermit.ini ;ini where macros are defined NET tcp 193.254.220.1 if fail stop 1 Can't make connection UNIXLOGIN my_usrid mypasswd if fail stop 1 Login failed connect - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 4 19:32:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10718 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA15497 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:32:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Date: 5 Mar 1997 00:32:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5fieuv$md0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5fetck$bde$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5fi9d9$ng4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6690 In article <5fi9d9$ng4@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, Stewart Levin wrote: : Thanks for all the suggestions I'm working on trying them out. : Parity Space did not change the slot count, nor did it affect : the integrity of the transmission. Sending a big file the : other direction, PC->Sun did activate 19 of 20 window slots : over the same connection (and a corresponding satisfying : increase in throughput.) : Well, first of all remember that the number of window slots in use will never be more than 1 from the receiver's point of view unless there have been transmission errors, as explained on page 258 of "Using C-Kermit" 2nd edition. The file sender, on the other hand, can send a windowful of packets without receiving any acknowledgements at all, so its window size is the one that reflects the actual situation. When the local Kermit program is the receiver, you can check the number of window slots used by the sender after the transfer by CONNECTing and giving the remote Kermit a STATISTICS command. When file transfers go fast in one direction but slow in the other, that tends to point the finger to the slow receiver. Check its Kermit settings carefully (window size, packet length). 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From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 01:25:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA20671 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01123 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 01:25:24 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit via INT14h Message-ID: <1997Mar4.204943.95231@cc.usu.edu> Date: 4 Mar 97 20:49:43 MDT References: <0cHGz8Q0+f/F092yn@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 86 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6692 In article <0cHGz8Q0+f/F092yn@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>, sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) writes: > cksam@macau.ctm.net (SAM, Chi-Kin) wrote in comp.protocols.kermit.misc: > > > I am playing with MS-Kermit version 3.15 beta 18, I tested it > > working with PPPshare fine. > > Oops, how that? As far as I know, Kermit can't handle ethernet and > by reason of this I tried to make it work via INT14h redirection. > > > I do not using INT14h. I just setup up and load PPPshare as usual. > > Then I make the following changes in mskermit.ini / mscustom.ini: > > > set port tcp nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (the host I want to connect) set tcp > > addr dhcp (my isp can provide dhcp or bootp) then I can telnet to > > any hosts now. > > I've tried this way, too. But I always get an error message and Kermit > complains, that it can not resolve the site called for; thereafter > the PPP link is broken as I wrote. BTW: My isp doesn't provide neither > bootp nor dhcp. ---------------- Let me explain a little, and then I hope the matter will be better understood. Ethernet is a broadcast medium where many stations can share the same "wire." To talk to a particular station frames on the wire carry the hardware address of the destination, and of the source for that matter, which is decoded by all Ethernet boards prior to accepting the frame. To determine the hardware address of a particular station on the wire TCP/IP uses an ARP request and expects and ARP reply (Address Resolution Protocol). ARP replies are sent by the station owning the IP address in the request; all other stations must not reply. The alternative strategy is to emit physical layer broadcasts, which every station on the wire receives and decodes, and hope the interior of the frame distinguishes one station from another. NetBIOS works this way. Naturally enough, folks react badly having stray traffic enter and interrupt their machine all the time. Thus TCP/IP over Ethernet uses the "know your friend's hardware address via ARP" approach; it's polite and helps a great deal. An IP gateway is the machine on the local wire which is able to relay IP datagrams to other IP networks (on other wires). The IP address of that gateway must be known to the client. Once known the client wishing to send an IP datagram to a place far away sends the IP datagram to that place but the Ethernet frame has a physical address of the gateway machine. Gateways are expected to look at what they receive and relay appropriately. SLIP is not a broadcast medium so the gateway is automatically the station at the other end of the wire; no gateway IP address is needed as such. If there is a serial port handler which proclaims itself to be an Ethernet device then it must support the notion of ARP and physical addresses and broadcast media strategies. If it does not then it is incompetent. But a serial port connection is a point to point connection, not a broadcast one. SLIP is Serial Line IP, a method of framing IP datagrams for such a serial point to point link. No ARP and no gateway are used on SLIP links. PPP is a faker, of the kindly type, which can multiplex packets of different protocols over the same serial (or other) link. There is no frame kind called PPP to applications programs. By now the situation is becoming clearer. A serial handler proclaiming itself to be of type Ethernet must support intelligent ARP, but very often it does not. End of that handler; discard it. PPP handlers are many and all are much different. Some may present an Ethernet interface and do ARP, others may forget the ARP part, others may provide a SLIP interface, and still others do none of the above and instead require the applications program to build in formal details of that handler. The MERIT PPP handler provides both Ethernet (minus ARP) and SLIP interfaces. Use the SLIP interface with MS-DOS Kermit. It works here, unquote. We provide it in the Crynwr Collection of Packet Drivers area. MS-DOS Kermit obeys the many RFCs on TCP/IP, and it deals with SLIP interfaces in addition to many others. But if the interface is Ethernet, or Token Ring, or Arcnet or FDDI etc which are broadcast media, then ARP must be supported by the handler. MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 and 3.15 do an ARP for its own IP address, on suitable wiring, to detect IP address problems before they become a problem. If an ARP reply is heard that means another station is using Kermit's IP address, and Kermit declines to transmit another IP datagram. Thus it does no good for a serial handler to reply itself to an ARP request for Kermit's IP address. No one should have that IP address except Kermit, and thus no other station should send an ARP reply to Kermit's IP address. Serial handlers can make this mistake. It's fatal. End of handler; discard it. What is now evident is one must select the serial port handler with some care. Prefer SLIP interfaces over Ethernet unless you have tested the handler and find that it does ARP properly. Else keep shopping. PPP drivers vary considerably, without much standardization, and hence Kermit can deal with those it knows (Novell's SLIP_PPP and Telebit's PPP) or it must use another style interface (say SLIP). Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 02:56:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00111 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA05463 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 02:56:07 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!europa.clark.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!van-bc!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!n3ott.istar!infoshare!whome!telly!evan From: evan@bigbird.telly.org (Evan Leibovitch) Subject: Grow up, please Organization: Sound Software Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:35:12 GMT Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6693 Exuding all the maturity I have come to expect from the Kermit Project, it has expicitly denied my site the ability to connect to kermit.columbia.edu. Besides the fact that this move hurts other users of this site who have not been critical of the Kermit Project, this action doesn't at all deny me access to Kermit software totally within the bounds of its license terms. I request a reversal of this action and an apology. I don't tolerate such pettiness from my children and I don't expect it from adults. -- Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario Supporting PC-based Unix since 1985 / Caldera & SCO authorized / www.telly.org Q: How many Microsoft employees does it take to change a lightbulb? A: None. They merely declare darkness to be the new industry standard. From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 04:52:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10395 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10922 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:52:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!zippo!news From: Xcksam@macau.ctm.netX (SAM, Chi-Kin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: MS-Kermit via INT14h Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 05:01:28 GMT Organization: Tecnologia Electronica Hermes Lines: 52 Message-ID: <5fiup4$jo2@lex.zippo.com> References: <5elp42$csr@lex.zippo.com> <0cHGz8Q0+f/F092yn@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de> Reply-To: Xcksam@macau.ctm.netX NNTP-Posting-Host: c9line3.macau.ctm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6694 On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:36:36 +0100, sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Thomas Pothmann) wrote: >cksam@macau.ctm.net (SAM, Chi-Kin) wrote in comp.protocols.kermit.misc: > > > I am playing with MS-Kermit version 3.15 beta 18, I tested it > > working with PPPshare fine. > >Oops, how that? As far as I know, Kermit can't handle ethernet and >by reason of this I tried to make it work via INT14h redirection. > > > I do not using INT14h. I just setup up and load PPPshare as usual. > > Then I make the following changes in mskermit.ini / mscustom.ini: > > > set port tcp nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (the host I want to connect) set tcp > > addr dhcp (my isp can provide dhcp or bootp) then I can telnet to > > any hosts now. > >I've tried this way, too. But I always get an error message and Kermit >complains, that it can not resolve the site called for; thereafter >the PPP link is broken as I wrote. BTW: My isp doesn't provide neither >bootp nor dhcp. > Since your isp does not provide bootp or dhcp, you need to set the following before make the connection: set port tcp nnn.nnn.nnn (the host that you want to connect) and set tcp primary nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (Your ISP primary DNS ip addr) set tcp sub 255.255.255.0 set tcp broadcast 255.255.255.255 set tcp addr nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn (Your local ip addr, which can be obtained thru pppmenu) ...SAM >Bye, Thomas. > >-- >********** Thomas Pothmann ********* >** sl0528@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de ** > > =========================================================================== SAM, Chi-Kin (Mr.) at Hermes Electronics Technology Co. in MACAU Tel: +(853)963609 Fax: +(853)511456 PGP key: http://macau.ctm.net/~cksam e-mail: cksam@macau.ctm.net Mailing-addr.: P.O.Box 831, Macau, South CHINA =========================================================================== From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 10:08:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23653 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18597 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:08:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Grow up, please Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:08:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <5fk29f$s2m$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6695 In article , Evan Leibovitch wrote: : Exuding all the maturity I have come to expect from the Kermit Project, it : has expicitly denied my site the ability to connect to kermit.columbia.edu. : Nobody has done any such thing. : Besides the fact that this move hurts other users of this site who have not : been critical of the Kermit Project, this action doesn't at all deny me : access to Kermit software totally within the bounds of its license terms. : : I request a reversal of this action and an apology. I don't tolerate : such pettiness from my children and I don't expect it from adults. : There are no filters of any kind on our site or our ftp server. We get occasional complaints about difficulty connecting but that's either because of a problem elsewhere in the Internet or because of (very infrequent) maintenance or repair activity on our server or local network. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 12:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23361 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25206 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:20:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Color problems with MSKermit Message-ID: <1997Mar5.100011.95243@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 Mar 97 10:00:11 MDT References: <5fhog0$s6i@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 5 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6696 In article <5fhog0$s6i@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Shawn Wingate writes: > Is it possible to put kermit into two color mode? -------- Would you like to amplify that question, please? Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 14:48:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28920 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA02524 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:48:47 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!Vir.com!Vir.com!not-for-mail From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Wyse 50 terminal emulation for kermit? Date: 5 Mar 1997 14:28:17 -0500 Organization: Hookup Montreal, Internet Access Montreal. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5fkhgh$pj7@Vir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: server3.vir.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6697 Hello all, I'm looking for a way to have kermit emulate a Wyse 50 terminal. Is it possible? If yes how? If no, what are my options? I'm using UNIX. Sstef From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 14:50:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29230 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA02599 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:50:39 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!ylee From: ylee@columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Grow up, please Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:50:39 GMT Organization: World Domination for Fun and Profit, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.1 UNIX) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6698 Evan Leibovitch wrote: > Exuding all the maturity I have come to expect from the Kermit > Project, it has expicitly denied my site the ability to connect to > kermit.columbia.edu. [Snip] As Frank da Cruz has already posted, that ain't the case. For someone who's been around computers for so long, you seem to have no idea that the net occasionally Simply Doesn't Work. > I request a reversal of this action and an apology. I don't tolerate > such pettiness from my children and I don't expect it from adults. Such pithy advice, coming from one who last year publicly embarrassed himself by ranting at yours truly for the crime of being a student at Columbia when I asked a question regarding academic discounts for Caldera WordPerfect in comp.os.linux.misc. (Curious folks are referred to DejaNews for the complete amusing story; the thread starts at message ID .) Yeechang, who does happen to work for AcIS (though Mr. Leibovitch certainly didn't know that last year), but not for the Kermit Project, and certainly does not speak for it or for the university -- http://www.columbia.edu/~ylee/ From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 14:58:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00542 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA02877 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:58:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Wyse 50 terminal emulation for kermit? Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:58:03 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5fkj8b$gv6$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fkhgh$pj7@Vir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6699 In article <5fkhgh$pj7@Vir.com>, Stefanos Kiakas wrote: : I'm looking for a way to have kermit emulate a Wyse 50 terminal. : Is it possible? If yes how? If no, what are my options? I'm using UNIX. : The Kermit program for UNIX is C-Kermit 6.0. It is not a terminal emulator. It is a "semitransparent communications pipe" between your terminal, or terminal emulator, or terminal window (e.g. xterm), or console, and the computer or service you have connected to. So if you are accessing your UNIX system through a Wyse 50 emulator (such as MS-DOS Kermit or Kermit 95 or Kermit/2), that's how you get Wyse 50 emulation on the remote host. Otherwyse you'll need some kind of Wyse-50-compatible replacement for your xterm window or console driver, but the availability of such a thing is (a) dependent on your exact UNIX hardware and software platform, and (b) unknown to us in any case. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 18:08:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10508 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12029 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:08:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-penn.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!news.dfci.harvard.edu!camelot.ccs.neu.edu!news From: Rich Pieri Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Grow up, please Date: 05 Mar 1997 10:52:42 -0500 Organization: Prescient Technologies, Inc. Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: swec-fw-e0.swec.com X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.4.15/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6700 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "EL" == Evan Leibovitch writes: EL> Exuding all the maturity I have come to expect from the Kermit Project, EL> it has expicitly denied my site the ability to connect to EL> kermit.columbia.edu. Yeah, well, maybe it is not the site's fault. Maybe it simply happens to be the fact that the Internet is disintegrating due to overloaded trunk lines, making it impossible to make some long distance connections through some providers' zones of control. Maybe the FTP server has a connect limit of some given number and that limit has been reached so your connection is refused. FTP is a *very* CPU and network intensive protocol for the server. Most public FTP servers these days implement such limits to keep their servers and local networks from being throttled by the load. Maybe you should try again several hours later before complaining about the Kermit Project being immature. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMx2Wxp6VRH7BJMxHAQGHygQAicEEjiocHe1jTmX7053n3BGnvEoS5s4D o9YzwQLEPL+o67HkVOZ7K/v9U5wvHchavhvxzn6NVScfvC7+H1/4sDwLXmTZkhnb H1Y/SjDa55WwxLKIWxIQ+RPtXEPf2quaXVbDjE0leRpAZdqJQXbjE8Ru/SfaQ5qH 1qlshaNm/bA= =OSw8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rich Pieri | Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain Prescient Technologies, Inc. | types of skin. A Stone & Webster Company | I speak for myself, not PTI or SWEC | From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 18:16:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11524 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA12362 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:16:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Grow up, please Date: 5 Mar 1997 23:16:05 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5fkurl$7d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6701 In article , Rich Pieri wrote: : ... : Maybe the FTP server has a connect limit of some given number and that : limit has been reached so your connection is refused. : No, there is no limit on the number of concurrent sessions, nor any other kind of limit at all regarding who or how many use it. If it ever comes to that, we'll make an announcement and we'll document it in the readme's, etc, but so far it has not been necessary. Bottlenecks and obstacles have almost always proven to be outside of the server. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 20:58:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02019 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA20005 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:58:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: srisoft@mindspring.com (Sanjay Rao) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Kermit 95 problem with COM port Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 01:56:08 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5fl8ao$scn@camel0.mindspring.com> Reply-To: srisoft@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kbtag.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 6 Mar 1997 01:57:44 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6702 Hi All: I am using Kermit 95 version 1.1.10 under Windows 95. For some reason, it is not able to detect my internal modem. When I use the command set line com2 the error is "can't open connection: com2". Other Windows 95 applications are able to use the modem fine? Can someone help me configure the Kermit software? Thanks in advance Sanjay srisoft@mindspring.com From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 21:33:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05908 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA21695 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 21:33:51 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.enteract.com!news.inetnebr.com!news.mid.net!news.cjnetworks.com!usenet From: povhelsing@iridescent.com (Penwell Von Helsing) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Grow up, please Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 02:17:04 GMT Organization: Siege Works Lines: 27 Sender: povhelsing@iridescent.com (Penwell Von Helsing) Message-ID: <332327fe.8045074@news.cjnetworks.com> References: <5fk29f$s2m$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Reply-To: povhelsing@iridescent.com (Penwell Von Helsing) NNTP-Posting-Host: port34.cjnetworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6703 On 5 Mar 1997 15:08:31 GMT, in comp.protocols.kermit.misc, Frank da Cruz wrote: >In article , >Evan Leibovitch wrote: >: Exuding all the maturity I have come to expect from the Kermit Project, it >: has expicitly denied my site the ability to connect to kermit.columbia.edu. >: >Nobody has done any such thing. > >: Besides the fact that this move hurts other users of this site who have not >: been critical of the Kermit Project, this action doesn't at all deny me >: access to Kermit software totally within the bounds of its license terms. >: >: I request a reversal of this action and an apology. I don't tolerate >: such pettiness from my children and I don't expect it from adults. >: >There are no filters of any kind on our site or our ftp server. We get >occasional complaints about difficulty connecting but that's either because >of a problem elsewhere in the Internet or because of (very infrequent) >maintenance or repair activity on our server or local network. Might I suggest that Frank da Cruz is a helpful, gentle soul, one not given to usenet hyperbole, abuse, or invective? I think so! -- Von Helsing From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 5 22:50:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12493 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA25365 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:50:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!jjena.dialup.fu-berlin.DE!not-for-mail From: jvjena@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joachim von Jena) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Connecting K95 to a port opened by another programm? Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 03:36:19 GMT Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Lines: 26 Message-ID: <331e3232.24522307@news.fu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: jjena.dialup.fu-berlin.de (160.45.225.137) X-Access: 16 17 19 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6704 I have to understand more of the host-mode scripts of K95 because I want to modify them to embed the K95-Hostmode into the Hostmode of the brandnew BGFAX32 programm. BGFAX32 for Win95/NT (like BGFAX for DOS) can handle the so called "adaptive answering" mode of newer modems. (please see http://www.blkbox.com/~bgfax for more information on BGFAX of B.J.Guillot) BGFAX handles the fax calls by itself and passes data calls to another terminal-programm which is called by a BGFAX batchfile. Therefore it would be necessary for K95 in hostmode _not_ to (auto-)answer a call but to handle an already open COM-port. My question is: Is this possible simply by replacing the command "answer" near the end of the the hostmdm.ksc script by a "connect" to achieve this? (I did not find an _exact_ definition of the "answer" command of K95. I would gess "answer" is equivalent to "output \v(m_aa_on)") -Joachim -- Joachim von Jena |jvjena@cs.tu-berlin.de Zillestrasse 107 |Tel: +49(30)341 6213 D-10585 Berlin (Charlottenburg) |GERMANY From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 6 09:45:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11407 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06073 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:45:12 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Kermit 95 problem with COM port Date: 6 Mar 1997 14:45:09 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5fml9l$9co$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fl8ao$scn@camel0.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6705 In article <5fl8ao$scn@camel0.mindspring.com>, Sanjay Rao wrote: : I am using Kermit 95 version 1.1.10 under Windows 95. For some reason, : it is not able to detect my internal modem. When I use the command : set line com2 the error is "can't open connection: com2". : : Other Windows 95 applications are able to use the modem fine? : If COM2 is Plug-n-Play and/or PCMCIA device, it has to be "initialized" before K95 can use it. K95 1.1.10 and later come with a program to do this, called K95CINIT. It is explained in Kermit 95 READ.ME file. If you have any further trouble, send e-mail to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 6 09:53:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12384 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06492 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:53:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Connecting K95 to a port opened by another programm? Date: 6 Mar 1997 14:53:38 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 45 Message-ID: <5fmlpi$9r5$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <331e3232.24522307@news.fu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6706 In article <331e3232.24522307@news.fu-berlin.de>, Joachim von Jena wrote: : I have to understand more of the host-mode scripts of K95 because I : want to modify them to embed the K95-Hostmode into the Hostmode of the : brandnew BGFAX32 programm. BGFAX32 for Win95/NT (like BGFAX for DOS) : can handle the so called "adaptive answering" mode of newer modems. : : (please see http://www.blkbox.com/~bgfax : for more information on BGFAX of B.J.Guillot) : : BGFAX handles the fax calls by itself and passes data calls to : another terminal-programm which is called by a BGFAX batchfile. : Therefore it would be necessary for K95 in hostmode _not_ to : (auto-)answer a call but to handle an already open COM-port. : : My question is: : : Is this possible simply by replacing the command "answer" near the end : of the the hostmdm.ksc script by a "connect" to achieve this? : : (I did not find an _exact_ definition of the "answer" command of K95. : I would gess "answer" is equivalent to "output \v(m_aa_on)") : It's a lot more than that -- it also invokes the modem-specific code to read and handle messages from the modem, and to return appropriate success or error codes. It also can time out after any interval you specify, etc. You'll note that the hostmode script (host.ksc) is independent of the connection type, and is "front-ended" by a collection of short scripts for each type of connection: hostmdm.ksc for modems, hosttcp.ksc for TCP/IP, etc. Each of these scripts "receives" a connection, but in a different way, and then the main script just uses it. In order for another *program* to invoke the host-mode script, it will need to pass the file descriptor of the open COM port to K95. Something like: d:\k95\k95 hostmode.ksc -l n where "n" is a number. You can't just give the COM port device name, because I don't think Windows will let a second application open the same COM port. We'll be happy to work with you on this; if you have any further questions, send them by email to kermit-support@columbia.edu. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 6 23:23:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA21208 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06482 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:23:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Grow up, please Message-ID: <1997Mar6.203754.95326@cc.usu.edu> Date: 6 Mar 97 20:37:52 MDT References: <5fkurl$7d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 27 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6707 In article <5fkurl$7d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > In article , > Rich Pieri wrote: > : ... > : Maybe the FTP server has a connect limit of some given number and that > : limit has been reached so your connection is refused. > : > No, there is no limit on the number of concurrent sessions, nor any other > kind of limit at all regarding who or how many use it. If it ever comes > to that, we'll make an announcement and we'll document it in the readme's, > etc, but so far it has not been necessary. Bottlenecks and obstacles have > almost always proven to be outside of the server. ------------- MAE-EAST and MAE-WEST Internet long distance carrier interchange hubs are having a terrible time currently. That means lots of lost packets and difficulty making connections. Your ISP may be having trouble too. Those of you who run machines serving ftp, http, etc will note the very large number of connections broken at the client end and left dangling. Those use up limited server resources and take a while to die away. Before accusing a site of emotional reactions it is often wise to check on connectivity in general, with ping and traceroute being two such tools. Some sites do inverse lookups on callers to verify information, and there are so many badly configured DNS servers that such lookups may fail or take a long time to complete. The thrust is, be sure of your facts before accusing managers of hostile action. Crow tastes awful, worse even than shod feet. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 07:10:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29854 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15234 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:10:06 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Caldera OpenDOS Task Manager X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:41:23 GMT Lines: 22 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6708 I found that MS-DOS Kermit scripts seemed to hang when run under Caldera OpenDOS 7.01 with the Task Manager activated. When I tried 'set terminal timeslice-release disable', like in OS/2, the scripts ran with the Task Manager running. The kermit.upd file says that this should only be active when in connect mode, which is not the case running a script. Are command files an exception along with connect mode? It also seems prone to lockup when entering the control characters to exit the LA FreeNet PICO editor. I've found that I can quit and restart without losing the connection, and get the edit session ended, but this is a bit annoying. It may be something else with my PC setup causing this problem. Regards, Dallas E. Legan (562) 862 - 4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org aw585@lafn.org delii@sc.liberty.com From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 10:19:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22829 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26105 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:19:56 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Caldera OpenDOS Task Manager Date: 7 Mar 1997 15:19:54 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5fpbmq$ncb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6709 In article <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org>, Dallas Legan wrote: : : I found that MS-DOS Kermit scripts seemed to hang when run under : Caldera OpenDOS 7.01 with the Task Manager activated. When I tried : 'set terminal timeslice-release disable', like in OS/2, the scripts : ran with the Task Manager running. The kermit.upd file says that this : should only be active when in connect mode, which is not the case : running a script. Are command files an exception along with connect : mode? : We have never seen Caldera OpenDOS 7.01. If its approach to multitasking is the same as IBM TopView and Microsoft Windows 2.x/3.x, then "set term timeslice-release" applies to the specific API for an application to give up its timeslice. If it is different, or if the presence of its Task Manager can not be detected by Kermit, then all bets are off. Perhaps Joe D will comment on this. : It also seems prone to lockup when entering the control characters to : exit the LA FreeNet PICO editor. I've found that I can quit and : restart without losing the connection, and get the edit session ended, : but this is a bit annoying. It may be something else with my PC setup : causing this problem. : Not being users of LA FreeNet, we don't know what it is that you must do to exit its PICO editor. Perhaps if you gave us the details, we could be of some help. Also, when reporting troubles you should mention the pertinent details: which version of MS-DOS Kermit do you have (the current one is 3.14, with 3.15 in Beta)? What kind of connection? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 11:32:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05557 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11520 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!metro.atlanta.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.191.213.61!ott.istar!istar.net!n3ott.istar!infoshare!whome!telly!evan From: evan@bigbird.telly.org (Evan Leibovitch) Subject: Connection problem fixed Organization: Sound Software Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:17:34 GMT Lines: 12 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6710 The problems my system has had connecting to kermit.columbia.edu have been fixed. While nothing has changed at my end, connections are no longer refused. I wish to publicly thank Frank da Cruz and Fuat Baran at Columbia U. for their assistance in this matter. -- Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario Supporting PC-based Unix since 1985 / Caldera & SCO authorized / www.telly.org Q: How many Microsoft employees does it take to change a lightbulb? A: None. They merely declare darkness to be the new industry standard. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 11:32:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05646 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11524 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:32:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!news.azstarnet.com!bot! From: Viper@africa.com (Viper) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400,comp.protocols.iso.x400.gateway,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.protocols.kermit,comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.protocols.misc,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.protocols.pcnet,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.smb,comp.protocols.snmp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.protocols.time,comp.protocols.time.ntp,comp.publish,comp.publish.cdrom,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.publish.electronic,comp.publish.electronic.developer,comp.publish.electronic.end-user,comp.publish.electronic.misc,comp.publish.prepress,comp.realtime,comp.research,comp.research.japan,comp.risks,comp.robotics,comp.robotics.misc,comp.robotics.research,comp.security,comp.security.announce,comp.security.firewalls,comp.security.gss-api,comp.security.misc Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 7 Mar 1997 02:42:48 GMT Organization: Snakes & Spiders Lines: 1 Sender: Viper@africa.com (Viper) Approved: Viper@africa.com (Viper) Distribution: inet Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: news.azstarnet.com Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:2325207 Please cancel this article From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 11:49:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10003 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12400 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:49:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Connection problem fixed Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:49:33 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 33 Message-ID: <5fpgut$skf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6711 In article , Evan Leibovitch wrote: : The problems my system has had connecting to kermit.columbia.edu have : been fixed. While nothing has changed at my end, connections are no : longer refused. : : I wish to publicly thank Frank da Cruz and Fuat Baran at Columbia U. : for their assistance in this matter. : Glad to help. The problem was evidently one of those that Joe D alluded to in his posting. The Internet is becoming increasingly difficult to manage and navigate, and problems like this have an ever-increasing number of possible explanations. Anybody who has trouble making *any* kind of connection should look over Joe's brief message to get an idea of what might be up. It's worth repeating here: MAE-EAST and MAE-WEST Internet long distance carrier interchange hubs are having a terrible time currently. That means lots of lost packets and difficulty making connections. Your ISP may be having trouble too. Those of you who run machines serving ftp, http, etc will note the very large number of connections broken at the client end and left dangling. Those use up limited server resources and take a while to die away. ... it is often wise to check on connectivity in general, with ping and traceroute being two such tools. Some sites do inverse lookups on callers to verify information, and there are so many badly configured DNS servers that such lookups may fail or take a long time to complete. (end quote) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 16:39:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04025 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26068 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:39:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!natinst.com!hopper.ACM.ORG!ACM.ORG!AARONB From: aaronb@ACM.ORG (Aaron Burns) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: 'cd' probs in c-kerm 6.0.192 Date: 7 Mar 1997 19:52:48 GMT Organization: ACM Network Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5fprmh$e7b@hopper.acm.ORG> Reply-To: aaronb@ACM.ORG NNTP-Posting-Host: pascal.acm.org Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6712 Howdy. I'm writing a kermit script to recieve files from sources outside our company. We're running C-Kermit 6.0.192 6 Sep 96 under Alpha, VMS 6.2. In the scripts, we use 'cd \$(ef_intake_dir)', where ef_intake_dir is "DRB0:[bellt33.syim.intake]". The cd fails - because it doesn't understand "DRB0:". I've confirmed this by trying cd's manually. Without the drive spec, it works find. With the drive spec it fails every time. I've tried enclosing the drive spec in single and double quotes. No luck. Any suggestions? We need to include the drive spec to ensure that files end up in the right spot. I've got the manual for a previous version (new one is on order) - at home. Thanks for your time in answering. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 17:14:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10832 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:14:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27780 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:14:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: 'cd' probs in c-kerm 6.0.192 Date: 7 Mar 1997 22:13:59 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5fq3v7$j6a$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fprmh$e7b@hopper.acm.ORG> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6713 In article <5fprmh$e7b@hopper.acm.ORG>, Aaron Burns wrote: : Howdy. I'm writing a kermit script to recieve files from : sources outside our company. We're running C-Kermit : 6.0.192 6 Sep 96 under Alpha, VMS 6.2. : : In the scripts, we use 'cd \$(ef_intake_dir)', where : ef_intake_dir is "DRB0:[bellt33.syim.intake]". The : cd fails - because it doesn't understand "DRB0:". : : I've confirmed this by trying cd's manually. Without the : drive spec, it works find. With the drive spec it fails : every time. : It's a bug. Here's the description: "In the VMS-specific file i/o module, CKVFIO.C, routine isdir(), a struct that contained a pointer to a malloc'd buffer was being used after the buffer was freed. In many cases this does not cause a problem because the material is still actually there, but in some cases the free() implementation actually wipes the buffer clean, causing the operation to fail. The most common symptom was failure of CD / SET DEFAULT in OpenVMS Alpha 6.2 or later that has been updated with ALPLIBR04_070, "Fix realloc fragmentation problem," LIBRTL patch (this was discovered by Lucas Hart). The fix is to postpone the free() call till after we are finished using the struct:..." The source-level patch is available at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/f/PATCHES At some point in the (hopefully not-too-distant) future, there will be a maintenance release of C-Kermit 6.0 with all the patches installed, for the benefit of those who can't, or would rather not, install source-level patches. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 17:58:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20102 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29942 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:58:08 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.stealth.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Re: Grow up, please X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Mar7.112559.7424@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net References: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:25:59 GMT Lines: 26 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6714 In a previous article, evan@bigbird.telly.org (Evan Leibovitch) says: >van >From: evan@bigbird.telly.org (Evan Leibovitch) >Subject: Grow up, please >Organization: Sound Software >Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:35:12 GMT >Lines: 15 > >Exuding all the maturity..... >-- > Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario > Supporting PC-based Unix since 1985 / Caldera & SCO authorized / www.telly.org > Q: How many Microsoft employees does it take to change a lightbulb? > A: None. They merely declare darkness to be the new industry standard. > I never had any problems with anyone involved with Kermit, no matter how foolish my questions may have been. Exude some maturity yourself. Regards, Dallas E. Legan From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 18:25:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24910 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01176 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 18:25:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Message-ID: <1997Mar7.152135.95352@cc.usu.edu> Date: 7 Mar 97 15:21:35 MDT References: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 21 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6715 In article <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, stew@taal.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) writes: > C-Kermit 6.0.192 on both ends (Linux and Sun OS 4.1.3) > Binary file transfer mode > FAST invoked on both ends before transfer > > SEND'ing a large file from the Sun to the PC produces > 20 rapid packets followed by a much slower one-at-a-time > crawl and the message that I am using 1 of 20 window slots. > Cancelling the file takes 20 more packets to complete. > This happens whether or not I use the SET BUFFERS 100000 100000 > command on both ends. Similarly with CAUTIOUS on both ends. > > Looks like it's the Linux end that's misbehaving. > Have I overlooked something in the Using C-Kermit 2nd ed. chapter > 12? Is there a patch I should retrieve? ------------- You are forgetting that the comms channel may not be able to cope. You don't say what that channel may be (or I've lost the scoop). Not coping leads to lost packets, and that in turn causes Kermit to slow down so losses are less likely. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 7 19:20:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04990 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03855 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.stratus,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Announcing C-Kermit 6.0 for Stratus VOS Date: 8 Mar 1997 00:20:13 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5fqbbt$rjg$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Keywords: Stratus VOS Kermit Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.sys.stratus:3077 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6716 This is to announce C-Kermit 6.0 for Stratus VOS fault-tolerant computer systems. C-Kermit is a platform- and medium-independent communications software package whose major functions are: . Terminal sessions . Fast and reliable file transfer . Character-set translation . Script programming to automate all communications tasks The VOS version of C-Kermit operates on serial, TCP/IP, and X.25 connections. C-Kermit 6.0 replaces version 5A(190) of October 1994. Its major new features include: . Intelligent, location-sensitive dialing capabilities . Support for modern high-speed modems . Lots of file-transfer improvements . A new block-structured script programming language with many new features . More character sets supported (Hebrew, etc) . Year 2000 compatibility And lots more. Like the other C-Kermit 6.0 versions (for UNIX, VMS, etc), the new Stratus release is fully documented in the new second edition of "Using C-Kermit". You can find the new VOS version of C-Kermit 6.0 at the Kermit website: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html Prebuilt binaries (encoded in a special form, accompanied by decoding macros) are available for the new Continuum (Jetta) platform, as well as the older Intel i860 XAR (Atlantic) RISC platform, and Motorola mc680x0 (Fresco) CISC models. The Stratus VOS adaptation of C-Kermit was originally done by David Lane, formerly of Stratus. Version 6.0 was brought to VOS by Kernie Brashier of Stratosphere, Ltd., Stratus Consulting Group: Email: kernie@stratosphere.com Web: http://www.mindspring.com/~kernie/stratosphere.com Thanks to Kernie for the good work, and to Richard Shuford for finding him! Frank da Cruz The Kermit Project Columbia University P.S. Since C-Kermit 6.0 was released for UNIX a few months ago, I haven't heard from anybody who has built it successfully on Stratus FTX -- If you have done so, or would like to, please contact me. Thanks! 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From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 8 06:05:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20131 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 06:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA07194 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 06:05:41 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!in3.uu.net!204.74.114.90!news.genuity.net!news.lafn.org!lafn.org!lafn.org!aw585 From: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Subject: Re: Caldera OpenDOS Task Manager X-Nntp-Posting-Host: lafn.org Message-ID: <1997Mar8.091627.4268@lafn.org> Sender: news@lafn.org Reply-To: aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net References: <5fpbmq$ncb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 09:16:27 GMT Lines: 60 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6717 In a previous article, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) says: >In article <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org>, >Dallas Legan wrote: >: >: I found that MS-DOS Kermit scripts seemed to hang when run under >: Caldera OpenDOS 7.01 with the Task Manager activated. When I tried >: 'set terminal timeslice-release disable', like in OS/2, the scripts >: ran with the Task Manager running. The kermit.upd file says that this >: should only be active when in connect mode, which is not the case >: running a script. Are command files an exception along with connect >: mode? >: >We have never seen Caldera OpenDOS 7.01. If its approach to >multitasking is the same as IBM TopView and Microsoft Windows 2.x/3.x, >then "set term timeslice-release" applies to the specific API for an >application to give up its timeslice. If it is different, or if the >presence of its Task Manager can not be detected by Kermit, then all >bets are off. Perhaps Joe D will comment on this. > >: It also seems prone to lockup when entering the control characters to >: exit the LA FreeNet PICO editor. I've found that I can quit and >: restart without losing the connection, and get the edit session ended, >: but this is a bit annoying. It may be something else with my PC setup >: causing this problem. >: >Not being users of LA FreeNet, we don't know what it is that you must do >to exit its PICO editor. Perhaps if you gave us the details, we could >be of some help. The usual exit for the PICO editor - cntl-x. I've also noticed this hanging up occasionally web browsing with LYNX, with the same fix. (I've only been using this combination for a couple of days now.) I don't know if this is because of some (unknown to me) change with the FreeNet, or that I haven't found the right tunings for the the OS and Kermit yet. I'll go back and try under some other DOS versions and see if they experience it also, but I don't recall this happening previously. Is IBM TopView the task manager for PC DOS 7.0? > >Also, when reporting troubles you should mention the pertinent details: >which version of MS-DOS Kermit do you have (the current one is 3.14, with >3.15 in Beta)? What kind of connection? > >- Frank > 3.14, with just a dialup connection. Need any other information? TIA, Best Regards, Dallas E. Legan II aw585@lafn.org delii@sc.liberty.com legan@acm.org (562) 862 - 4854 From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 8 11:16:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12077 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08619 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:16:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Caldera OpenDOS Task Manager Date: 8 Mar 1997 16:16:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5fs3cu$9ag$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5fpbmq$ncb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org> <1997Mar8.091627.4268@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6718 In article <1997Mar8.091627.4268@lafn.org>, Dallas Legan wrote: : >... : >: It also seems prone to lockup when entering the control characters to : >: exit the LA FreeNet PICO editor. I've found that I can quit and : >: restart without losing the connection, and get the edit session ended, : >: but this is a bit annoying. It may be something else with my PC setup : >: causing this problem. : ... : The usual exit for the PICO editor - cntl-x. : I've also noticed this hanging up occasionally web browsing : with LYNX, with the same fix. : Control-X is a plain old data character to Kermit. If you type it, and Kermit sees it, then Kermit sends it, period. The question is whether Kermit sees it. If so, then my guess would be that it has a special meaning to some other component of your connection: modem, terminal server, etc. : Is IBM TopView the task manager for PC DOS 7.0? : TopView was an early attempt at "DOS multitasking" by IBM before Windows took over the world. However, it uses the same APIs as Windows 2.x and 3.x for timeslice release, so if a DOS applications is "TopView aware" it is also "Windows aware" and vice versa, at least to the extent that it can participate in cooperative multitasking. We've never seen the Caldera Task Manager -- could it be that it has hooked the keyboard interrupt and takes over Ctrl-X for its own purposes? - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 8 13:38:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08213 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:38:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15508 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:38:10 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail From: mgflax@panix.com (Marshall G. Flax) Newsgroups: comp.sys.stratus,comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Announcing C-Kermit 6.0 for Stratus VOS Date: 8 Mar 1997 13:38:02 -0500 Organization: panix Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5fsbma$k1s@panix.com> References: <5fqbbt$rjg$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com Keywords: Stratus VOS Kermit X-Newsposter: Pnews 4.0-test50 (13 Dec 96) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.sys.stratus:3080 comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6719 In article <5fqbbt$rjg$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Frank da Cruz wrote: > Web: http://www.mindspring.com/~kernie/stratosphere.com Make that http://www.mindspring.com/~kernie/stratosphere.html Marshall -- [Marshall G. Flax -- mgflax@panix.com] From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 8 17:51:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27057 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27603 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:51:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Caldera OpenDOS Task Manager Message-ID: <1997Mar8.150620.95382@cc.usu.edu> Date: 8 Mar 97 15:06:20 MDT References: <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 21 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6720 In article <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org>, aw585@lafn.org (Dallas Legan) writes: > I found that MS-DOS Kermit scripts seemed to hang when > run under Caldera OpenDOS 7.01 with the Task Manager > activated. When I tried 'set terminal timeslice-release disable', > like in OS/2, the scripts ran with the Task Manager running. > The kermit.upd file says that this should only be active when > in connect mode, which is not the case running a script. > Are command files an exception along with connect mode? > > It also seems prone to lockup when entering the control > characters to exit the LA FreeNet PICO editor. > I've found that I can quit and restart without losing > the connection, and get the edit session ended, but this is a > bit annoying. It may be something else with my PC setup causing this > problem. --------- I can't comment on OpenDOS, not having touched it. In general don't dream of "task switching" communications programs because they have interrupt driven i/o active much of the time. SET TERM TIMESLICE is indeed effectively only in Connect mode. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 9 02:26:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10559 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA21047 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 02:26:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver2.jvnc.net!nntpserver.pppl.gov!usenet From: arousset@true.net (augusto rousset) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help to read file... Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 07:17:36 GMT Organization: Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5fto4c$ms2@tom.pppl.gov> References: <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov> <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5f6479$sdq$1@brokaw.wa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: arousset.dialup.true.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6721 I want to thank Frank and Ken for their help, tough this wasn't a kermit question. I have not enough knowledge of all this encoding matters, and i'm still trying to solve this problem. ¿Could you tell me what a C compiler is? I've been looking other postings in this newsgroup and saw the announcement of MS Kermit for DOS. ¿Can't this program help me to view the kind of file I want? Thank you again Augusto Rousset arousset@true.net Ken Pizzini wrote: >In article <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, >Frank da Cruz wrote: >>btoa and atob are not standard parts of UNIX -- you have to hunt around the >>Internet to find them. I don't know what the difference between btoa and >>xbtoa might be. Of course if you are not on a UNIX system then you probably >>can't read this file at all. >Sources to [x]btoa can be found in comp.sources.unix volume 18. >I don't know why the ".unix" was used -- this is not Unix >specific code. You will need a C compiler to use it though. >For this specific case, provided you have access to a C compiler, >one can get around the problem of someone choosing a specialized >encoding, but I agree with Frank that it is quite annoying that >people blindly send attachments in program-specific formats >without first verifying that the recipient can handle such >a format. > --Ken Pizzini Augusto Rousset arousset@true.net From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 9 21:17:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28090 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05585 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 21:17:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!192.245.243.1!news.palantir.com!news.IntNet.net!news From: hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: vt320 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 00:09:07 GMT Organization: Life Styles of the Poor Lines: 7 Message-ID: <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net> Reply-To: hoot@d-s-s.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as-clw-9-150.intnet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6722 How do I get MSkermit for DOS to emulate VT320? Is it built in or do I have to obtain a key map file? Please reply to: hoot@d-s-s.com Thanks, Jeff From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 03:01:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21113 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20714 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 03:01:50 -0500 (EST) From: cammar@pgh.nauticom.net (CRAIG MARBURGER) Subject: rms file transfer Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] NNTP-Posting-Host: pgh.nauticom.net Message-ID: <33222e63.0@pgh.nauticom.net> Date: 9 Mar 97 03:28:35 GMT Lines: 3 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!europa.clark.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!pgh.nauticom.net!pgh.nauticom.net!cammar Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6723 Is their a way to transport rms files from a vax with kermit to a pc with windows with out it being a hassle? I have vax Ver 6.1 and would like to transport the rms indexed file into say a Dbase. From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 10:37:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05040 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03211 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:37:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: rms file transfer Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:37:32 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5g19rs$p7d$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33222e63.0@pgh.nauticom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6724 In article <33222e63.0@pgh.nauticom.net>, CRAIG MARBURGER wrote: : Is their a way to transport rms files from a vax with kermit to a pc with : windows with out it being a hassle? I have vax Ver 6.1 and would like to : transport the rms indexed file into say a Dbase. : Of course you can transfer the file to PC with Kermit, but the question is how you can use it afterwards. The PC file system does not have indexed files, and so you need some application-specific utility to convert the data (record format and possibly other material, like internal integer and/or floating point format) to a format that can be used, or imported, by the PC database software. Your best bet is to repost your question to comp.os.vms, and list the specific database applications involved. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 10:48:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07393 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03755 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:48:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help to read file... Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:48:25 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <5g1ag9$pue$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov> <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5f6479$sdq$1@brokaw.wa.com> <5fto4c$ms2@tom.pppl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6725 In article <5fto4c$ms2@tom.pppl.gov>, augusto rousset wrote: : I want to thank Frank and Ken for their help, tough this wasn't a : kermit question. I have not enough knowledge of all this encoding : matters, and i'm still trying to solve this problem. : ¿Could you tell me what a C compiler is? : I've been looking other postings in this newsgroup and saw the : announcement of MS Kermit for DOS. ¿Can't this program : help me to view the kind of file I want? : Kermit is (among other things) a terminal emulator, not an email or MIME client. Just because you are using Kermit to "read email" does not mean Kermit understands every conceivable encoding that people use when sending you email, any more than a real terminal would (in case you don't know what a terminal is, it is sort of like a typewriter). The "MIME revolution" has, in my opinion, perhaps done more harm than good, by creating the expectation that you can send anything to anybody and they will be able to read it. How many of us receive (for example) Microsoft Word 7.0 documents encoded by btoa, when our email client (a) does not reside on a Microsoft OS, and (b) does not have a btoa decoder? People who are new to computing or "the net" have no idea that this would be a problem and tend not to understand the explanation when they are told that it is. "Please resend your message in plain text," we ask, and they ask, "What is plain text?" It will only get worse. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 10:50:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07862 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03862 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:50:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: vt320 Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:50:29 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5g1ak5$q24$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6726 In article <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net>, Jeff Tomich wrote: : How do I get MSkermit for DOS to emulate VT320? Is it built in or do I : have to obtain a key map file? : The host-to-screen side of VT320 is built in. Just tell Kermit to "set terminal type vt320". In fact, this is the default emulation. Key mapping is a different matter. Since the PC and VT320 keyboards are different, no two people agree on what the mapping should be. A sample mapping is included with MS-DOS Kermit as KEYBOARD\VT300.INI. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 12:51:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07571 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10072 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 12:51:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!ivie From: ivie@cc.usu.edu (Roger Ivie) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Caldera OpenDOS Task Manager Message-ID: <1997Mar10.102011.95410@cc.usu.edu> Date: 10 Mar 97 10:20:11 MDT References: <1997Mar7.114123.13391@lafn.org> <5fpbmq$ncb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 15 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6727 In article <5fpbmq$ncb$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes: > We have never seen Caldera OpenDOS 7.01. Caldera OpenDOS 7.01 was previously known as Novell DOS 7.01; Caldera bought Digital Research from Novell, and are making everything they can find available free for personal use. The task manager for Caldera OpenDOS is the same task manager shipped with Novell DOS. Rumor is that Caldera have not yet found CP/M amongst the Digital Research stuff they bought from Novell. :-( -- -------------------------+--------------------------------------------- Roger Ivie | "Since then, it's been my policy to view the ivie@cc.usu.edu | Internet...as an electronic asylum filled with http://cc.usu.edu/~ivie/ | babbling loonies" -- Mike Royko From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 15:23:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13783 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17461 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 15:23:08 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help to read file... Message-ID: <1997Mar10.121714.95423@cc.usu.edu> Date: 10 Mar 97 12:17:13 MDT References: <5f2ove$4sb@tom.pppl.gov> <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5fto4c$ms2@tom.pppl.gov> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 45 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6728 In article <5fto4c$ms2@tom.pppl.gov>, arousset@true.net (augusto rousset) writes: > I want to thank Frank and Ken for their help, tough this wasn't a > kermit question. I have not enough knowledge of all this encoding > matters, and i'm still trying to solve this problem. > ¿Could you tell me what a C compiler is? > I've been looking other postings in this newsgroup and saw the > announcement of MS Kermit for DOS. ¿Can't this program > help me to view the kind of file I want? Given your work address in the header getting local answers should be a snap. I refer you to them for "what is a C compiler". Kermit's are not general purpose file-format conversion programs, and below Frank indicated how to go about locating one which might solve your problem. Joe D. > Thank you again > Augusto Rousset > arousset@true.net > Ken Pizzini wrote: > >>In article <5f4l8u$7ao$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, >>Frank da Cruz wrote: >>>btoa and atob are not standard parts of UNIX -- you have to hunt around the >>>Internet to find them. I don't know what the difference between btoa and >>>xbtoa might be. Of course if you are not on a UNIX system then you probably >>>can't read this file at all. > >>Sources to [x]btoa can be found in comp.sources.unix volume 18. >>I don't know why the ".unix" was used -- this is not Unix >>specific code. You will need a C compiler to use it though. > >>For this specific case, provided you have access to a C compiler, >>one can get around the problem of someone choosing a specialized >>encoding, but I agree with Frank that it is quite annoying that >>people blindly send attachments in program-specific formats >>without first verifying that the recipient can handle such >>a format. > >> --Ken Pizzini > > Augusto Rousset > arousset@true.net > From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 16:12:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26137 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20058 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:12:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!206.138.179.6!fluke!jd!dcd From: David Dyck Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit 8 databits and parity odd Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:11:03 -0800 Organization: Fluke Corporation, Everett, WA Lines: 27 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: jd.tc.fluke.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dcd@jd Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6729 I want to achive the same as stty 1200 raw parenb parodd cs8 with c-kermit When I set parity odd, the show communications command reports that parity is odd (as expected), but when I attempt to also set terminal bytesize 8, parity is set back to none! I was attempting to log 8data bits with odd parity to a file (e.g the data was being transmitted as 8 databits PLUS the parity bit) on Linux, I was able to execute the command stty parenb parodd at the terminal that kermit was communicating and effect the desired communications, but that is only temporary. Is there a way to get kermit into 8 data bits + parity mode? Thanks, David Dyck From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 16:33:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02010 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21085 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:33:52 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.245.3.50!news.primenet.com!phishin From: Shawn Wingate Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: external protocol -->Kermit Date: 10 Mar 1997 14:27:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5g1ub8$f5j@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Posted-By: phishin@206.165.5.106 (phishin) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6730 I would like to find a windowed,large packet command line kermit protocol that I can call from my comm program .. any suggestions? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- phishin phishin@primenet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 17:08:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09966 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22786 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:08:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit 8 databits and parity odd Date: 10 Mar 1997 22:08:22 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5g20om$2j9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6731 In article , David Dyck wrote: : I want to achive the same as : stty 1200 raw parenb parodd cs8 : : with c-kermit : : When I set parity odd, : the show communications command reports that : parity is odd (as expected), : but when I attempt to also set terminal bytesize 8, : parity is set back to none! : : I was attempting to log 8data bits with odd parity : to a file (e.g the data was being transmitted as 8 databits : PLUS the parity bit) : : on Linux, I was able to execute the command : stty parenb parodd : at the terminal that kermit was communicating : and effect the desired communications, but : that is only temporary. : : Is there a way to get kermit into 8 data bits + parity mode? : Presently, no, at least not by Kermit command. In fact, this is the first request we have ever had for this capability in C-Kermit. Given the complexity of the underlying code (look through the tty mode-setting routines in ckutio.c), and the fact that the tty modes are probably the most fundamental aspect of UNIX C-Kermit's operation, any changes in this area are likely to cause more problems than they address. It's not even clear to what extent different UNIX (or other OS) versions support the notion of 8 data bits plus parity, and what the effect might be of trying to set this configuration on systems that did not support it. I'll put this on the list of things to look at for a future release, but for now I think your workaround is the best approach. You can make it easier with macro, something like: define xconnect run stty parenb parodd < \v(line) connect and then always use "xconnect" rather than "connect". - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 10 17:13:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11001 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22917 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:13:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: external protocol -->Kermit Date: 10 Mar 1997 22:13:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 26 Message-ID: <5g211q$5or$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5g1ub8$f5j@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6732 In article <5g1ub8$f5j@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Shawn Wingate wrote: : I would like to find a windowed,large packet command line kermit protocol : that I can call from my comm program .. any suggestions? : >From the Kermit FAQ: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.html ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/faq.txt 30 IS THERE A KERMIT LIBRARY? No, there is not a Kermit library, DLL, VBX, OCX, Active X control, or other type of Kermit module designed purely for embedding in other applications available from the Kermit Project. We recommend that those who wish to embed communications functions -- connection establishment, logging in and other dialogs, file management, data transfer -- do so by invoking an existing Kermit program -- MS-DOS Kermit for DOS or Windows 3.x, Kermit 95 for Windows 95 or NT, C-Kermit for UNIX or VMS, etc -- from within their application by a combination of command-line arguments and command files (Kermit script programs). If you have trouble with this, ask us for assistance. And of course, if you are providing this application to customers or clients, you must license the Kermit software from the Kermit Project. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 04:35:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10517 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA23994 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:35:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!uunet!in3.uu.net!207.115.134.241!newsfeed.gte.net!news From: hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Looking for TCP that DOS kermit works with. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:25:33 GMT Organization: Life Styles of the Poor Lines: 5 Message-ID: <332524aa.36927180@news.gte.net> Reply-To: hoot@d-s-s.com NNTP-Posting-Host: clw233145.gte.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6733 I need TCP connectivity under using DOS Mskermit. What TCP works well with DOS MsKermit? Thanks, Jeff Please reply to: hoot@d-s-s.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 09:23:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28637 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27235 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:23:17 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Looking for TCP that DOS kermit works with. Date: 11 Mar 1997 14:23:16 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <5g3psk$293$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <332524aa.36927180@news.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6734 In article <332524aa.36927180@news.gte.net>, Jeff Tomich wrote: : I need TCP connectivity under using DOS Mskermit. : What TCP works well with DOS MsKermit? : MS-DOS Kermit includes its own built-in TCP/IP stack. No external TCP product is required. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 13:27:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21114 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:27:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09258 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:27:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: vt320 Message-ID: <1997Mar11.105816.95469@cc.usu.edu> Date: 11 Mar 97 10:58:16 MDT References: <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 8 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6735 In article <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: > How do I get MSkermit for DOS to emulate VT320? Is it built in or do I > have to obtain a key map file? ------------ Designed in, built in. Please do have a look at the docs in the shipping package, and consider acquiring the User's Manual (see the HELP screen of MS-DOS Kermit). Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 14:22:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02166 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12006 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:22:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!sep!stew From: stew@sep.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FAST+FAST->Window slots 1 of 20 Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:13:41 GMT Organization: Stanford Exploration Project Lines: 34 Sender: stew@sep (Stewart Levin) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g4at5$mte@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <1997Mar7.152135.95352@cc.usu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6736 In article <1997Mar7.152135.95352@cc.usu.edu>, jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) writes: |> In article <5fb64g$5fp@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, stew@taal.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) writes: |> > C-Kermit 6.0.192 on both ends (Linux and Sun OS 4.1.3) |> > Binary file transfer mode |> > FAST invoked on both ends before transfer |> > |> > SEND'ing a large file from the Sun to the PC produces |> > 20 rapid packets followed by a much slower one-at-a-time |> > crawl and the message that I am using 1 of 20 window slots. |> > Cancelling the file takes 20 more packets to complete. |> > This happens whether or not I use the SET BUFFERS 100000 100000 |> > command on both ends. Similarly with CAUTIOUS on both ends. |> > |> > Looks like it's the Linux end that's misbehaving. |> > Have I overlooked something in the Using C-Kermit 2nd ed. chapter |> > 12? Is there a patch I should retrieve? |> ------------- |> You are forgetting that the comms channel may not be able to |> cope. You don't say what that channel may be (or I've lost the scoop). |> Not coping leads to lost packets, and that in turn causes Kermit to |> slow down so losses are less likely. |> Joe D. Following the pointers and clarifications from this newsgroup, I've had a chance to experiment. It appears that C-Kermit is working exactly as advertised, it is just the quality of the phone connections between my home and my office are on the average not very clean. Every once in a while I do achieve a high throughput, however. Most of the time I sustain about half the best speed. Once again, my thanks to this group and, of course, to the authors of kermit and its user's guides. - Stew Levin stew@sep.stanford.edu From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 14:31:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04530 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12625 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:31:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!sep!stew From: stew@sep.Stanford.EDU (Stewart Levin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: SHOW SERVICES macro? Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:30:02 GMT Organization: Stanford Exploration Project Lines: 24 Sender: stew@sep (Stewart Levin) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g4brq$mte@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: oas.stanford.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6737 I've been patiently customizing my home C-kermit configuration under Linux. I created a cklocal.ini file defining the modem information and a set of login macros to accompany the ckermit.ksd services additions. (BTW I had to add a CHECK NETWORK commmand within the COMMON: code block of ckermit.ini to permit the ACCESS and related macros to be defined in the absence of an active network configuration.) I have two questions/requests: 1. Does anyone already have a SHOW SERVICES equivalent macro to jog my memory about what services are defined in the ckermit.ksd file? 2. I'm thinking of building a modest X wrapper using the Stanford xtpanel scripting language. Is it possible to invoke the "access" macro from the command line and leave the user connected to the resulting session? I'm hoping to use xterm -e kermit -C ... for the purpose. - Stew Levin stew@sep.stanford.edu From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 14:38:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06581 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12940 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:38:15 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: SHOW SERVICES macro? Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:38:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5g4cb6$mdc$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5g4brq$mte@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6738 In article <5g4brq$mte@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, Stewart Levin wrote: : I've been patiently customizing my home C-kermit configuration : under Linux. I created a cklocal.ini file defining the modem : information and a set of login macros to accompany the ckermit.ksd : services additions. (BTW I had to add a CHECK NETWORK commmand... : CHECK NETWORK succeeds if network support compiled in, fails if not. It has nothing to do with whether a connection is active. : within the COMMON: code block of ckermit.ini to permit the ACCESS : and related macros to be defined in the absence of an active : network configuration.) : ??? I'm not sure I understand what you mean -- maybe you could send me email saying why you had to do this? : I have two questions/requests: : : 1. Does anyone already have a SHOW SERVICES equivalent macro : to jog my memory about what services are defined in the : ckermit.ksd file? : It's already there: LIST. : 2. I'm thinking of building a modest X wrapper using : the Stanford xtpanel scripting language. Is it : possible to invoke the "access" macro from the : command line and leave the user connected to the : resulting session? I'm hoping to use xterm -e kermit -C ... : for the purpose. : That's one way to do it, something like: xterm -e kermit -C "access foo.bar.baz.com, if success connect, else exit" - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 16:18:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26923 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17717 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:18:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mindspring!uunet!in2.uu.net!152.163.170.17!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: belakimem@aol.com (Belakimem) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Basic question. Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:18:28 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <19970311211800.QAA14636@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6739 C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for SCO UNIX/386 Hi all, pardon my igonrance but I have a basic kermit question. When I try set speed 19200, it tells me to set line first. But I have already set line. Why does it tell me this? Is there an online kermit manual ( web or otherwise ) with, more importantly, plenty of examples? Potential responders, please reply to my email address as well as the Newsgroup. Thank You. From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 16:31:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00102 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18322 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:31:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Basic question. Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:31:27 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5g4ivf$bm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <19970311211800.QAA14636@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6740 In article <19970311211800.QAA14636@ladder01.news.aol.com>, Belakimem wrote: : C-Kermit 6.0.192, 6 Sep 96, for SCO UNIX/386 : Hi all, pardon my igonrance but I have a basic kermit question. : : When I try set speed 19200, it tells me to set line first. But I have : already set line. : To what? : Why does it tell me this? : Please tell us the exact sequence of commands that you gave, in the order that you gave them, along with any messages that were printed in response to them. And perhaps more to the point, please explain what you are trying to make Kermit do. Dial out? Go faster? ... : Is there an online kermit manual ( web or otherwise ) with, more : importantly, plenty of examples? : There is a book. It has plenty of examples. Sales of the book are the major source of funding for continued development and support of C-Kermit, and we like to think it is helpful to all C-Kermit users, from beginning to advanced. If you type "help" at the C-Kermit> prompt, it tells you about the book and how to get it. For additional information, see the C-Kermit web site: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html and more specifically about the manual: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60manual.html - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 18:26:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22482 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA23873 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:26:37 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: belakimem@aol.com (Belakimem) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Basic question. Date: 11 Mar 1997 23:26:11 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 9 Message-ID: <19970311232601.SAA21548@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5g4ivf$bm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6741 I dial in via modem. I type kermit I type set line /dev/tty01, or whatever it is I type set speed 19200 ( or anything ) I get : ?you must set line before set speed From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 18:46:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27593 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24859 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:46:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Basic question. Date: 11 Mar 1997 23:46:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5g4qsv$9m9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5g4ivf$bm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <19970311232601.SAA21548@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6742 In article <19970311232601.SAA21548@ladder01.news.aol.com>, Belakimem wrote: : I dial in via modem. : I type kermit : And then you press the Enter or Return key, right? And then you see the C-Kermit> prompt, right? : I type set line /dev/tty01, or whatever it is : So you type: set line /dev/tty01 at the C-Kermit prompt, and then you press the Enter or Return key, right? And after you do this, is there an error message? Before typing the next command, please type the following command at the C-Kermit> prompt: show communications and notice what C-Kermit reports its line and speed to be. : I type set speed 19200 ( or anything ) : : I get : ?you must set line before set speed If the "set line /dev/tty01" command was executed without error, then "set speed 19200" should be accepted UNLESS /dev/tty01 happens to be your login terminal. Any error message would indicate that the "set line /dev/tty01" command was not accepted in the first place. If there was no error message, then I must ask again: why are you trying to "set line" and "set speed"? Do you want to dial out from the SCO system? Or have you come in to the SCO system from another computer and want to transfer files? In the latter case, you do NOT use the "set line" or "set speed" commands. This is the difference between "local mode" and "remote mode". All of this is explained in the manual, with profuse examples and illustrations. If you are giving a "set line" command for the same terminal device that you are logged in on, it has no effect at all. Kermit remains in remote mode, and you can not "set speed" on your job's controlling terminal. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 19:44:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08312 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27586 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:44:32 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!torn!newshost.uwo.ca!phobos.sscl.uwo.ca!not-for-mail From: "R. Puchtinger" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: how to use APC with c-kermit ? Date: 12 Mar 1997 00:15:12 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5g4sig$oub@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.sscl.uwo.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970307; RISC ULTRIX 4.4] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6743 Hi, I'd like to use the autodownload/upload functions of mskermit to transfer files to/from a unix box running c-kermit v.5, patch-level 189. It has APC but I don't know how to access or write the autodownload/upload macros. Any suggestions on how to do this would be appreciated. Please e-mail your responses, since I do not follow this regularly. Thanks. -- ____________________________________________________________/\ Rolf Puchtinger | Tel. (519)438-7421 \ /\ 31-536 Platts Lane | Internet: \ / \ /\_ London, ON | puchting@phobos.sscl.uwo.ca \ / \/ N6G 3A8 | http://info.london.on.ca/~aa077/index.html \/ From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 11 20:19:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13784 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA29278 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 20:19:50 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: how to use APC with c-kermit ? Date: 12 Mar 1997 01:19:47 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5g50bj$fs9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5g4sig$oub@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6744 In article <5g4sig$oub@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, R. Puchtinger wrote: : I'd like to use the autodownload/upload functions of mskermit to transfer : files to/from a unix box running c-kermit v.5, patch-level 189. It has : APC but I don't know how to access or write the autodownload/upload macros. : Any suggestions on how to do this would be appreciated. : Well, first of all, if you use MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 (currently in beta), it has autoup- and download built in that works even without APC. But if you do want to use APC, the easiest way is to get the current version of C-Kermit, which is 6.0.192, and just use its APC command to do the dirty work. Find all the info on the current versions at the Kermit website: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 07:21:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25139 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18825 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 07:21:31 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.cybertron.com!not-for-mail From: Michael-Greg Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: no beep w/ win95 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:38:05 -0600 Organization: CyberTron, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3325FAED.487B@cybertron.com> Reply-To: mgphl@cybertron.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mgphl.cybertron.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6745 This may be a BUE (blatant user error) or even ESOP (equipment superior to operator) but I cannot get the "beep" to work in my win95 environment but it works fine under nt4.0... Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated (vi without beeps can get a bit harry!). Thanks, -michael -- Michael G Phillips mgphl@cybertron.com "Just because it worked doesn't mean it works." --me From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 09:54:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22674 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26611 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:54:30 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: belakimem@aol.com (Belakimem) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Basic Question. Date: 12 Mar 1997 14:53:39 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <19970312145301.JAA29468@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6746 Ooops!, I see what you are getting at. The speed is pre-set if I am sending a file from the dial in Unix box to my local PC. Thanks for your help and patience. From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 10:40:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03602 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA29027 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:40:39 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!torn!newshost.uwo.ca!phobos.sscl.uwo.ca!not-for-mail From: "R. Puchtinger" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: kermit ftp mirror sites? Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:32:04 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5g6i9k$rkb@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.sscl.uwo.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970307; RISC ULTRIX 4.4] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6747 Hi, I've beent trying to ftp download c-kermit from kermit.columbia.edu but get disconnected at my end because the transmission is too slow (I got about one third of the tar.gz in one hour). Could anyone please e-mail me a listing of mirror sites for the cku192.* files that hopefully are faster. Thanks in advance, Rolf. -- ____________________________________________________________/\ Rolf Puchtinger | Tel. (519)438-7421 \ /\ 31-536 Platts Lane | Internet: \ / \ /\_ London, ON | puchting@phobos.sscl.uwo.ca \ / \/ N6G 3A8 | http://info.london.on.ca/~aa077/index.html \/ From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 11:22:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12310 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01113 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:21:59 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: kermit ftp mirror sites? Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:21:58 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 Message-ID: <5g6l76$pr9$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5g6i9k$rkb@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6748 In article <5g6i9k$rkb@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>, R. Puchtinger wrote: : I've beent trying to ftp download c-kermit from kermit.columbia.edu but get : disconnected at my end because the transmission is too slow (I got about : one third of the tar.gz in one hour). Could anyone please e-mail me a : listing of mirror sites for the cku192.* files that hopefully are faster. : Problems like this are in general not ours. Our server is usually quite snappy, and we have a fast connection to the Internet. Parts of the Internet itself are often badly congested. We don't have any official mirror sites, in the sense that they have been set up with our knowledge and cooperation, so therefore anything you obtain elsewhere is strictly "take it as you find it". In our experience, most people who get Kermit software from other sites wind up with incomplete or outdated versions, or worse. If anybody wants to talk to us about setting up mirror sites on the West Coast, or in Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan, etc etc, send me e-mail. The primary considerations are that (a) they be kept complete and up to date, and (b) CDROMs are not made from them without our permission. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 11:42:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17309 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02044 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:42:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jaltman From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: no beep w/ win95 Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:42:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5g6mdt$r61$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3325FAED.487B@cybertron.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6749 In article <3325FAED.487B@cybertron.com>, Michael-Greg wrote: : This may be a BUE (blatant user error) or even ESOP : (equipment superior to operator) but I cannot get the : "beep" to work in my win95 environment but it works fine : under nt4.0... Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated : (vi without beeps can get a bit harry!). I'm not sure which category this one falls into, but it appears that some installations of Windows 95 Sound Driver support attempt to route the System Beep through the sound card and the sound card does nothing. There isn't much we can do about this one. Its a Windows 95 issue. A workaround while you try to track it down is to use SET BEEP VISIBLE. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 * (212) 854-1344 http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html * kermit-support@columbia.edu From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 12:02:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20422 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03052 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 12:02:36 -0500 (EST) From: goextreme@hotmail.com Subject: We have taken the Hassles out of the net Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Organization: GOEXTREME NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.134.84.73 Message-ID: <3326b74e.1@news1.betacom.net> Date: 12 Mar 97 14:01:50 GMT Lines: 53 Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.betacom.net! 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Members of [freespeech] Campaign and [AOL SUX Get a REAL ISP Campaign] From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 13:56:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13943 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:56:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08161 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:56:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pumpkin.pangea.ca!news.mira.net.au!inquo!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@noXbeepXwX.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: no beep w/ win95 Date: 12 Mar 1997 17:52:55 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 16 Message-ID: <5g6qho$djr@samba.rahul.net> References: <3325FAED.487B@cybertron.com> <5g6mdt$r61$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6751 Jeffrey Altman (jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : I'm not sure which category this one falls into, but it appears that : some installations of Windows 95 Sound Driver support attempt to : route the System Beep through the sound card and the sound card : does nothing. Hey. I never noticed! Of course, I don't make msteaks when using vi. My "beep" is a bell ringing, through the sound system. In Settings-Control Panel-Sounds, it is the "default sound", which could be made into some other .wav file (I just checked). -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 15:42:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06646 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13239 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:42:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3326b74e.1@news1.betacom.net> Date: 12 Mar 1997 18:02:08 GMT Control: cancel <3326b74e.1@news1.betacom.net> Message-ID: Sender: goextreme@hotmail.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Xref: news.columbia.edu control.cancel:2437887 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 17:19:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27049 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17984 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:19:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: external protocol -->Kermit Message-ID: <1997Mar12.141051.95517@cc.usu.edu> Date: 12 Mar 97 14:10:50 MDT References: <5g1ub8$f5j@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 8 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6752 In article <5g1ub8$f5j@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Shawn Wingate writes: > I would like to find a windowed,large packet command line kermit protocol > that I can call from my comm program .. any suggestions? ------------- For Unix I presume. If so there is but one: C Kermit. Please contact Columbia Univ for commercial arrangements. See NEWS group comp.protocols.kermit, or write Frank da Cruz, fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 12 23:43:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00791 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06174 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:43:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.panix.com!panix3.panix.com!mpollak From: Michael Pollak Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Where can I FTP Kermit for Mac? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:40:07 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6753 And what's it called -- Mackermit? Much obliged, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 13 01:50:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24275 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11078 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:50:09 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!panix!news.panix.com!panix3.panix.com!mpollak From: Michael Pollak Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: FTP question: using wildcards with GET Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:47:22 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6754 The files for kermit for apples are mixed up with the files for MSkermit, CP/M kermit, etc. They all start with "ap", and it would be nice if FTP allowed wildcards in its "get" statement -- then I could just type "get ap*" But it seems to read the asterisk literally in a get statement (although it understood it in a LS statement). All suggestions greatly appreciated. Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 13 11:40:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03722 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28850 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:40:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Where can I FTP Kermit for Mac? Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:40:21 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5g9all$9q0$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6755 In article , Michael Pollak wrote: : : And what's it called -- Mackermit? : CURRENT STATE OF MACINTOSH KERMIT Wed May 22 15:28:44 1996 Macintosh Kermit is an unfinished and unsupported software program. It is usable for most serial-communication purposes, but it does not have a comprehensive manual, and there have been no Macintosh programmers devoted to upgrading and maintaining it since about 1988. Nevertheless, occasional upgrades and fixes have been made on an ad-hoc basis since then. The current version is 0.993(192), which is a prerelease of an Alpha-test version, based on a Alpha version of C-Kermit 6.0.192. Although it is not supported in any way, this is the version we recommend because: a. It fixes the problem exhibited by earlier releases in which the program would bomb during downloads on Power Macs and/or system 7.1 or later. b. It uses the Communications Tool Box, and so can be used with various devices that earlier versions could not be used with. The last formal release of Mac Kermit was 0.9(40) in 1988. Unfortunately, it does not work very well on newer Macintoshes or Systems. However, newer versions are too big for 512K Macs or below, so you'll have to run 0.9(40) on these old models. A comprehensive user manual will be published when and if the final 1.0 release is ever completed. Sorry, I can't give any reasonable estimate about when that will be. Watch the comp.protocols.kermit.misc newsgroup for further announcements. Mac Kermit 0.993(192) is available via anonymous ftp from kermit.columbia.edu, directory kermit/mac, file mackermit.hqx. After downloading to your Mac, convert it back to a runnable application using BinHex 4.0. Other Mac Kermit files, from the same directory: ckmker.doc -- user documentation for 0.9(40), the previous release (1988) ckmker.ps -- PostScript version of user documentation for 0.9(40) ckmker.bwr -- Notes about the current prerelease, FAQ's, etc ckmker.fon -- Notes about the new Mac Kermit terminal emulation font maclatin.* -- The new Mac Kermit font itself Read the ckmker.bwr ("beware") file for further details. From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 13 11:43:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04246 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29011 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:43:05 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: FTP question: using wildcards with GET Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:43:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5g9aqo$a0g$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6756 In article , Michael Pollak wrote: : : The files for kermit for apples are mixed up with the files for MSkermit, : CP/M kermit, etc. They all start with "ap", and it would be nice if FTP : allowed wildcards in its "get" statement -- then I could just type "get : ap*" But it seems to read the asterisk literally in a get statement : (although it understood it in a LS statement). : First, note that the "Apple" files in the kermit/a directory are for the Apple II, not the Macintosh. If those are what you really want... Use a real ftp client, not a Web browser: ftp kermit.columbia.edu user: anonymous password: your email id cd kermit/a prompt mget ap*.* bye In fact, this is the very reason that files are grouped together by prefix. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 14 16:30:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13539 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09648 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:30:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news From: Marco Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Nintendo game on AS/400 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:33:56 -0500 Organization: DIGEX Lines: 2 Message-ID: <3329C444.5A2A@elvis.com> Reply-To: marco@elvis.com NNTP-Posting-Host: e211.metaverse.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6757 Check out Mario Net Quest, a Shockwave game on IBM's AS/400 site. You can win prizes check it out http://www.as400.ibm.com/nintendo From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 15 12:26:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15096 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA24353 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:26:23 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!solace!mn6.swip.net!mn5.swip.net!news From: Fredrik Lewerth Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Z- modem crash recovery? Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:55:29 +0100 Organization: Gunship BBS Lines: 9 Message-ID: <332AD481.3382@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup77-2-14.swipnet.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: s-205208 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6758 Is there anyway to initiate Zmodem crash recovery from the local console, i.e. if I´m downloading from a BBS I can´t use the "sz -r" command that I use in a unix environment. -- * Fredrik Lewerth * Göteborg, Sweden * Fax/BBS: +46 31 421077 * * http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-26329/ * Cellular: +46 708 693306 * * mailto:frelew@swipnet.se * Mjölk och kaka... * From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 16 08:26:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04121 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08875 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:26:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.shscomputer.com!usenet From: takecards@answerme.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: ACCEPT MAJOR CREDIT CARDS !!!!!! 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From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 17 12:02:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24427 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:02:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15858 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:02:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc-e!taurus.bv.sgi.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!jlfox From: jlfox+@pitt.edu (James L Fox) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Back to basics (One way communications) Date: 17 Mar 1997 16:15:41 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 27 Message-ID: <5gjqnd$2o1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: unixs-eval.cis.pitt.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6760 Being an old Kermit user and advocate and a person who helped many others with their modem/phone/comm port problems, I'm a bit sheepish asking this question... I'm trying to do simple vt100 emulation using ms-kermit 3.11 driving an external 2400 Zoom modem through comm port 2. This setup has worked flawlessly for years on an HP 386 PC. My problem started when I plugged the modem into comm port 2 of a Gateway 2000 486-66 machine and tried to run kermit from DOS. I do "mode com2:24,n,8,1" from dos. From kermit, I can then dial "atdt 5551212" and listen to a successful connect....BUT throughout the process, my screen stays BLANK! Kermit knows how to write to the screen since it will if I "set duplex half". I tried 2 other internal 2400 baud modems to see if the modem is broke, but the results are the same. It must be between the Gateway and kermit, I guess. I'm using the mskermit.ini file that worked on the HP with the port # changed from 1 to 2. Does the ability to make the modem dial allow me to imply that kermit is dealing correctly with comm2? I am a little suspicious of the fact that the Gateway mouse is using Comm port 1 and kermit has a "set comN x\0xxx" command (which I'm not using) BUT I keep thinking that these can't be interfering OR I wouldn't be able to make it dial. :-( Help! Thanks, --Jim Fox From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 17 12:16:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26530 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16587 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:16:11 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Back to basics (One way communications) Date: 17 Mar 1997 17:16:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 39 Message-ID: <5gju8o$cru$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5gjqnd$2o1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6761 In article <5gjqnd$2o1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, James L Fox wrote: : Being an old Kermit user and advocate and a person who helped : many others with their modem/phone/comm port problems, I'm a : bit sheepish asking this question... : : I'm trying to do simple vt100 emulation using ms-kermit 3.11 : driving an external 2400 Zoom modem through comm port 2. : You should install the current version, 3.14 (soon to be 3.15). I don't think it will affect this particular problem but it's always best to stay up to date. : This setup has worked flawlessly for years on an HP 386 PC. My : problem started when I plugged the modem into comm port 2 of a : Gateway 2000 486-66 machine and tried to run kermit from DOS. I do : "mode com2:24,n,8,1" from dos. From kermit, I can then dial "atdt : 5551212" and listen to a successful connect....BUT throughout the : process, my screen stays BLANK! Kermit knows how to write to the : screen since it will if I "set duplex half". I tried 2 other : internal 2400 baud modems to see if the modem is broke, but the : results are the same. It must be between the Gateway and kermit, : I guess. I'm using the mskermit.ini file that worked on the HP : with the port # changed from 1 to 2. : : Does the ability to make the modem dial allow me to imply that : kermit is dealing correctly with comm2? I am a little suspicious : of the fact that the Gateway mouse is using Comm port 1 and kermit : has a "set comN x\0xxx" command (which I'm not using) BUT I keep : thinking that these can't be interfering OR I wouldn't be able to : make it dial. :-( Help! : You are experiencing "Can talk but not listen" syndrome, explained in detail in section 6 of the KERMIT.BWR file that accompanies the current version of MS-DOS Kermit: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/msvibm.zip - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 17 16:08:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23773 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27470 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 16:08:04 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!wilbur.sequent.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.uidaho.edu!not-for-mail From: David oaks Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: motorola Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:28:31 -0800 Organization: University of Idaho, Moscow, Idaho Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <332D9B5F.7764@novell.uidaho.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.101.55.216 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6762 Does anybody know where I can get 1)Information describing the packet operation of kermit 2)Code that I can use to run kermit on a motorola 68HC11 uc? Assembly code is fine, C code is nice! Aaron Huntsinger hunt5249@uidaho.edu Senior, Computer Engineering University of Idaho From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 17 21:25:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19122 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA12826 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:25:35 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!newsgate.nytimes.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.serv.net!nntp.teleport.com!nntp.reed.edu!sun.lclark.edu!sun.lclark.edu!not-for-mail From: miller@sun.lclark.edu (John Miller) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Subject: Back to Basics II (Blank screen in CP/M kermit) Date: 17 Mar 1997 14:54:27 -0800 Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sun.lclark.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6763 comp.os.cpm:18623 I have loads of experience with kermit between vaxen, macs, and PCs. None with my wife's Kaypro II. CP/M 2.2G Various kermits: 4.05 with adm3a, with vt52, 3.9A for Kaypro II, 4.09, Thanks to Don Maslin. I'm not satisfied completely with the RS-232 I have set up - the breakout box shows that some of the connections are not happy (RTS, CTS, DTR, etc), but for the life of me I can't figure what is wrong with them, so on to the empirical observation and puzzle. I have the serial I/O port J4 connected to a Supra 2400 B modem. The modem shows TX/RD activity when I connect via kermit. I can ATDT, log into unix and give commands, etc, and log out. I can't see a blasted thing on the screen. I've started kermit server running on unix and tried to send a file anyway, but Kermit on the Kaypro just isn't getting any data or signals. The breakout box shows activity on both sides. When I have the same connected directly to my Mac (no modem) I can type on the Kaypro and have it come out on the Mac screen, but not VV although I'm pretty sure the signal is on the wire. So it seems that CP/M is not passing the data into the kermit program. I've read about IOBYTE, and dinked with the CONFIG program a little, but no dice. Please, no flames! :^) What's wrong here? Do I need a newer CP/M? (Are you listening Don? :^) Is it a cable problem? Thanks, John -- "What's ahead?" From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 18 09:17:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07803 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05284 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:17:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Back to basics (One way communications) Message-ID: <1997Mar18.065822.95678@cc.usu.edu> Date: 18 Mar 97 06:58:21 MDT References: <5gjqnd$2o1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 40 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6764 In article <5gjqnd$2o1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, jlfox+@pitt.edu (James L Fox) writes: > Being an old Kermit user and advocate and a person who helped > many others with their modem/phone/comm port problems, I'm a > bit sheepish asking this question... > > I'm trying to do simple vt100 emulation using ms-kermit 3.11 > driving an external 2400 Zoom modem through comm port 2. This > setup has worked flawlessly for years on an HP 386 PC. My > problem started when I plugged the modem into comm port 2 of > a Gateway 2000 486-66 machine and tried to run kermit from > DOS. I do "mode com2:24,n,8,1" from dos. From kermit, I can then > dial "atdt 5551212" and listen to a successful connect....BUT > throughout the process, my screen stays BLANK! Kermit knows > how to write to the screen since it will if I "set duplex half". > I tried 2 other internal 2400 baud modems to see if the modem > is broke, but the results are the same. It must be between the > Gateway and kermit, I guess. I'm using the mskermit.ini file that > worked on the HP with the port # changed from 1 to 2. > > Does the ability to make the modem dial allow me to imply that > kermit is dealing correctly with comm2? Close. It says the port address is ok so Kermit can reach the UART for transmission. What it does not say is received bytes can reach Kermit. And that means the IRQ must be correct as well because that is what causes Kermit to read the UART for received information. Both port address and IRQ must be correct and free of conflict. Btw, we are at version 3.15 beta these days, a great deal further along the road than v3.11. Joe D. >I am a little suspicious > of the fact that the Gateway mouse is using Comm port 1 and kermit > has a "set comN x\0xxx" command (which I'm not using) BUT I keep > thinking that these can't be interfering OR I wouldn't be able to > make it dial. :-( Help! > > Thanks, > --Jim Fox From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 18 15:42:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01165 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24204 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:42:55 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!not-for-mail From: donm@cts.com (Don Maslin) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Back to Basics II (Blank screen in CP/M kermit) Followup-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Date: 18 Mar 1997 19:45:21 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Lines: 57 Message-ID: <5gmrch$fa1@bogus.cts.com> References: <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: crash-i2.cts.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6765 comp.os.cpm:18638 John Miller (miller@sun.lclark.edu) wrote: : I have loads of experience with kermit between vaxen, macs, and PCs. : None with my wife's Kaypro II. : CP/M 2.2G : Various kermits: 4.05 with adm3a, with vt52, 3.9A for Kaypro II, 4.09, : Thanks to Don Maslin. : I'm not satisfied completely with the RS-232 I have set up - the breakout : box shows that some of the connections are not happy (RTS, CTS, DTR, etc), : but for the life of me I can't figure what is wrong with them, so on to the : empirical observation and puzzle. : I have the serial I/O port J4 connected to a Supra 2400 B modem. : The modem shows TX/RD activity when I connect via kermit. : I can ATDT, log into unix and give commands, etc, and log out. : I can't see a blasted thing on the screen. : I've started kermit server running on unix and tried to send a file anyway, : but Kermit on the Kaypro just isn't getting any data or signals. : The breakout box shows activity on both sides. When I have the same : connected directly to my Mac (no modem) I can type on the Kaypro and have it : come out on the Mac screen, but not VV although I'm pretty sure the signal : is on the wire. That is encouraging! And perfectly normal, unless you have local echo set up on the Kaypro or the Mac is echoing back the characters that it receives. : So it seems that CP/M is not passing the data into the kermit program. : I've read about IOBYTE, and dinked with the CONFIG program a little, : but no dice. Please, no flames! :^) : What's wrong here? Do I need a newer CP/M? (Are you listening Don? :^) : Is it a cable problem? Yeah, I'm listening, John. Trouble is, I have never used Kermit in my life and have no experience with data link on a II - though it shouldn't be all that different from a 4 or 10. But I may have to try. - don : Thanks, : John : -- : "What's ahead?" donm@cts.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Don Maslin - Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives Chairman, Dina-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society Clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology. Sysop - Elephant's Graveyard (CP/M) - 619-454-8412 *--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--* see old system support at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 18 17:06:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16436 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA28318 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:06:48 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!not-for-mail From: cwr@cts.com (Will Rose) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Back to Basics II (Blank screen in CP/M kermit) Followup-To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:00:41 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Lines: 63 Message-ID: <5gn3a9$kap@bogus.cts.com> References: <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: crash-i2.cts.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6766 comp.os.cpm:18639 John Miller (miller@sun.lclark.edu) wrote: : I have loads of experience with kermit between vaxen, macs, and PCs. : None with my wife's Kaypro II. : CP/M 2.2G : Various kermits: 4.05 with adm3a, with vt52, 3.9A for Kaypro II, 4.09, : Thanks to Don Maslin. : I'm not satisfied completely with the RS-232 I have set up - the breakout : box shows that some of the connections are not happy (RTS, CTS, DTR, etc), : but for the life of me I can't figure what is wrong with them, so on to the : empirical observation and puzzle. : I have the serial I/O port J4 connected to a Supra 2400 B modem. : The modem shows TX/RD activity when I connect via kermit. : I can ATDT, log into unix and give commands, etc, and log out. : I can't see a blasted thing on the screen. [...] : Is it a cable problem? Yes. The easiest thing to do would be to get a copy of Joe Campbell's The RS-232 Solution from the library, since it deals extensively with the Kaypro. For debugging, get a 9V battery and a bunch of grabbers (or whatever you call them) from Radio Shack. Then connect the battery ground to pin 7 of the Kaypro D25, and try pulling up CTS and possibly DSR. Once you've got it working with an external battery, then you can probably find enough volts from eg. DTR for any necessary pullups. Or you could try the adapter below: With the standard RS-232 D-25 pinouts of: 1 - Frame ground 2 - TxD 3 - RxD 4 - RTS 5 - CTS 6 - DSR 7 - Signal ground 8 - DCD 20 - DTR the cable that works in 95% of situations is: DB-25 DB-25 1 <------> 1 2 <------> 3 3 <------> 2 4 <-+----> 8 5 <-+ 6 <------> 20 7 <------> 7 8 <----+-> 4 +-> 5 20 <------> 8 Note that it is symmetrical. It is also overkill, and disables all hardware handshaking. Will cwr@crash.cts.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 18 19:56:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16581 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06347 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:56:46 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!unlisys!cs.tu-berlin.de!informatik.uni-bremen.de!iradj.is-bremen.de!usenet From: mmueller@is-bremen.de (Martin Mueller) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: how to use CAPI 2.0 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:27:32 GMT Organization: Internationale Stadt Bremen Lines: 13 Message-ID: <332ef8ed.2968408@news.is-bremen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: cisdn5.is-bremen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.339 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6767 I'd like to make a connection via ISDN. As far as I know I have to use a CAPI driver. I'm running WinNT 4.0 and K95. A CAPI 2.0 driver is installed but I was not able to test the driver because I have no suitable application. Thanks for your help... Martin --- Martin Mueller, Stolberger Str. 23, 28205 Bremen E-Mail: mmueller@is-bremen.de Tel.: 0421 43299-12, Fax: 0421 43299-13 From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 18 20:02:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17738 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:02:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06628 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:02:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: how to use CAPI 2.0 Date: 19 Mar 1997 01:02:53 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <5gndvt$isp$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <332ef8ed.2968408@news.is-bremen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6768 In article <332ef8ed.2968408@news.is-bremen.de>, Martin Mueller wrote: : I'd like to make a connection via ISDN. As far as I know I have to use : a CAPI driver. : : I'm running WinNT 4.0 and K95. : A CAPI 2.0 driver is installed but I was not able to test the driver : because I have no suitable application. : We'll contact you about this. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 19 02:29:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10854 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 02:29:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA23891 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 02:29:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!uninett.no!news.uni-c.dk!news-inn.uni-c.dk!news.uni-c.dk!not-for-mail From: "Karl-Johan Olsen" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Packet driver to an ethernet connection via ndis driver, does it work ? Date: 19 Mar 1997 02:55:23 GMT Organization: Privat Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01bc3411$3cbf7540$58e0b1c2@karlos> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.177.224.88 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1132 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6769 I've been trying to connect over tcpip with pathworks. I loaded a packet driver and binded it with an ndis driver. I got an Lan address out, but I was'nt able to connect to my server. What did I probally did wrong. I used int 0x60 and it did work well. I used mskermit v.3.14. And my normal connection to my network did well. Karl-Johan Olsen karlos@greennet.gl From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 19 14:49:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25449 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18588 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:49:40 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!news.xensei.com!news.erg.sri.com!news.sri.com!anemone.csl.sri.com!argon.csl.sri.com!not-for-mail From: rushby@anemone.csl.sri.com (John Rushby) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Problems with Tecra+DOS+kermit Date: 19 Mar 1997 11:13:57 -0800 Organization: Computer Science Laboratory, SRI International Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5gpdtl$718$1@argon.csl.sri.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.csl.sri.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6770 I have a Toshiba Tecra 740 booted to MSDOS via F8 (I'm running DOS simply because Linux isn't installed yet). There is an internal modem on COM2, standard address and IRQ, RTS flow control. Kermit 3.14 is unable to use this modem with the speed set higher than 2400! I get the same problem with an external modem via COM1; However, if I disable the internal modem (via tsetup) and use a Megahertz PCMCIA modem as COM2 (using the point enabler), it works fine. I've tried other versions of Kermit on the internal modem with the following results: 3.15: same problem as 3.14 3.13: doesn't even load--divide trap (does the same on my P6 desktop) 2.29: works perfectly! The symptom at higher speeds with 3.14 is that ATH generates 0 and then everything locks up. Dialing works but nothing appears on the screen. "Show modem" reports everything as expected. I know this sounds like the "can talk but cannot hear" problem described in kermit.bwr, but the address and IRQ are ok, there are no conflicts that I can see, and that wouldn't explain why 2.29 works, nor why 3.14 works at slow speed and with a PCMCIA modem. Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Rushby Email: Rushby@csl.sri.com Computer Science Laboratory Tel: (415) 859-5456 [hit 0 to escape voice-mail] SRI International Fax: (415) 859-2844 333 Ravenswood Avenue WWW: http://www.csl.sri.com/~rushby Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA ftp: ftp.csl.sri.com/pub/{reports|pvs} From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 19 19:19:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13732 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01621 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:19:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!yale!oitnews.harvard.edu!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!wieland From: Jeff_Wieland@ces.purdue.edu (Jeff Wieland) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Back to Basics II (Blank screen in CP/M kermit) Date: 19 Mar 1997 20:59:09 GMT Organization: Purdue University Agricultural Computer Network Lines: 68 Message-ID: <5gpk2t$e0p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: viking.acn.ces.purdue.edu Originator: wieland@viking.acn.ces.purdue.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6771 comp.os.cpm:18653 In article <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> miller@sun.lclark.edu (John Miller) writes: >I have loads of experience with kermit between vaxen, macs, and PCs. >None with my wife's Kaypro II. > >CP/M 2.2G John, Is this a II or a 2? Since you say it is booting 2.2G, I suspect that its really a 2-84, which is quite a bit different from the old II-83 (althought important things like the IO port addresses for the serial data port are the same), especially since you mention port J4 and CP/M 2.2G (the G refers to the BIOS version -- my 2X came with 2.2H, which was the last release before the so-called Universal BIOS, 2.2U1). (There were actually two versions of 2.2G -- you have to use DDT or some other program to dump part of the BIOS to see which one you have.) >Various kermits: 4.05 with adm3a, with vt52, 3.9A for Kaypro II, 4.09, >Thanks to Don Maslin. > >I'm not satisfied completely with the RS-232 I have set up - the breakout >box shows that some of the connections are not happy (RTS, CTS, DTR, etc), >but for the life of me I can't figure what is wrong with them, so on to the >empirical observation and puzzle. > >I have the serial I/O port J4 connected to a Supra 2400 B modem. >The modem shows TX/RD activity when I connect via kermit. >I can ATDT, log into unix and give commands, etc, and log out. >I can't see a blasted thing on the screen. I used several different modems on my 2X, all with just a straight through 25 wire cable. Some of the modems I've used include an Avatex 1200, Hayes 2400, Microcom AX/2400, Telebit T1000, and Telebit WorldBlazer. I'd be real suspicious that one or more of the line driver chips is blown. These chips convert between the TTL levels of the Z80 SIO and RS-232C levels. I blew one or two of them on my 2X once, and I got really weird results with a breakout box. Anyway, the '84 series Kaypros have 3 line drivers either two 1488's and one 1489, or two 1489's and one 1488. If you open up an '84 Kaypro, they are near the back of the motherboard by the serial ports (if your Kaypro has two serial ports, called serial data and serial printer, then its a '84 series). You could just replace them all, they're cheap. >So it seems that CP/M is not passing the data into the kermit program. >I've read about IOBYTE, and dinked with the CONFIG program a little, >but no dice. Please, no flames! :^) IOBYTE and CONFIG have nothing to do with this, because Kermit is accessing the hardware directly. There *IS* a generic CP/M 2.2 Kermit that uses IOBYTE (you have to use STAT to set the RDR and PUN devices to point to the serial data port, and use CONFIG to get the baud rate set correctly). This only works on machines that implement IOBYTE, which the Kaypro does. It will not work at all under CP/M 3 -- there is a different generic Kermit for CP/M 3 that uses the AUX device. >What's wrong here? Do I need a newer CP/M? (Are you listening Don? :^) >Is it a cable problem? > >Thanks, >John >-- >"What's ahead?" > -- Jeff Wieland Jeff_Wieland@ces.purdue.edu From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 08:50:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24365 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08038 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:50:38 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!fido.news.demon.net!demon!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!not-for-mail From: bernards@xs4all.nl (Bernard Speekenbrink) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: problems with multiple tcp/ip sessions Date: 20 Mar 1997 13:58:16 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <09970220144127.OUI27.bernards@xs4all.nl> Reply-To: bernards@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: stat14-247.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:58:16 CET X-Newsreader: OUI PRO 1.5.0.2 Lines: 16 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6772 Since we are using msdos kermit 3.14 we have problems with multiple TCP/IP sessions to the same host. When the connection is idle for some time (about 30/40 minutes) sometimes (not always) one session is kicked off with "connection refused by host". When we used msdos kermit 3.13 we had no problems at all. We are connected to a Unixware 2.03 host. Bernard Speekenbrink bernards@xs4all.nl -- Bernard Speekenbrink bernards@xs4all.nl 03/20/97 14:46 --------- Using: OUI PRO 1.5.0.2 from http://www.dvorak.com From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 09:59:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03467 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11887 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:59:52 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!ames!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!wieland From: Jeff_Wieland@ces.purdue.edu (Jeff Wieland) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: Back to Basics II (Blank screen in CP/M kermit) Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:46:14 GMT Organization: Purdue University Agricultural Computer Network Lines: 51 Message-ID: <5grijm$erf@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> <5gpk2t$e0p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: viking.acn.ces.purdue.edu Originator: wieland@viking.acn.ces.purdue.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6773 comp.os.cpm:18659 In article <5gpk2t$e0p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Jeff_Wieland@ces.purdue.edu (Jeff Wieland) writes: >In article <5gki33$8qi@sun.lclark.edu> miller@sun.lclark.edu (John Miller) writes: >I'd be real suspicious that one or more of the line driver chips is >blown. These chips convert between the TTL levels of the Z80 SIO and >RS-232C levels. I blew one or two of them on my 2X once, and I got >really weird results with a breakout box. > >Anyway, the '84 series Kaypros have 3 line drivers either two 1488's >and one 1489, or two 1489's and one 1488. If you open up an '84 Kaypro, >they are near the back of the motherboard by the serial ports (if your >Kaypro has two serial ports, called serial data and serial printer, then >its a '84 series). You could just replace them all, they're cheap. To follow up my own post, there are in fact two 1489's (U3 and U5) and one 1488 (U4). U5 is used for RS-232 inputs by SIO-1, channel A, which is the serial data port (J4 - SIO-2 channel A). This is probably the failed chip. U4 (RS-232 output) is shared by both serial ports, and U3 is used only by the serial printer port (J3). U4 MIGHT be the problem, and you might want to replace it as well. The lines used on J4 are: 1 tied to ground 2 TXD 3 RXD 4 RTS 5 CTS 6 pulled high through a 5.1K resistor 7 tied to ground 8 DCD 20 DTR By the way, the serial printer port has ONLY the following connections: 2 RXD 3 TXD 20 CTS SIO-1 channel B is connected to J2, the serial keyboard port, which has the following connections: 1 +5 V 2 RXD 3 ground 4 TXD SIO-2 channel B is used for the internal 300 bps modem that some '84 series Kaypro's have. Both of the B channels are fixed at 300 bps. -- Jeff Wieland Jeff_Wieland@ces.purdue.edu From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 11:53:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21795 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17682 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:53:14 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Packet driver to an ethernet connection via ndis driver, does it work ? Message-ID: <1997Mar20.090925.95754@cc.usu.edu> Date: 20 Mar 97 09:09:25 MDT References: <01bc3411$3cbf7540$58e0b1c2@karlos> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 19 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6774 In article <01bc3411$3cbf7540$58e0b1c2@karlos>, "Karl-Johan Olsen" writes: > I've been trying to connect over tcpip with pathworks. > I loaded a packet driver and binded it with an ndis driver. > I got an Lan address out, but I was'nt able to connect to my server. > What did I probally did wrong. > I used int 0x60 and it did work well. > I used mskermit v.3.14. > And my normal connection to my network did well. > > Karl-Johan Olsen > karlos@greennet.gl ------------ Without knowing which components were hooked together I'll be brief and recommend reviewing the documentation included with MS-DOS Kermit distribution. The NDIS v2 (real mode) to Packet Driver converter is dis_pkt9 and it is part of the MSK distribution kit. Also, please remember that use only one TCP/IP stack at a time over the same board. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 13:28:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10722 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24897 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:28:12 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: problems with multiple tcp/ip sessions Date: 20 Mar 1997 18:28:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5grvjk$q2s$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <09970220144127.OUI27.bernards@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6775 In article <09970220144127.OUI27.bernards@xs4all.nl>, Bernard Speekenbrink wrote: : Since we are using msdos kermit 3.14 we have problems with multiple : TCP/IP sessions to the same host. When the connection is idle for some : time (about 30/40 minutes) sometimes (not always) one session is kicked : off with "connection refused by host". When we used msdos kermit 3.13 we : had no problems at all. We are connected to a Unixware 2.03 host. : This is one of the problem areas addressed in version 3.15. If you would like to try the current Beta: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/test/bin/msk315.zip Unzip this into your regular Kermit directory, run MSK315 rather than KERMIT. See MSK315.DOC for update notes. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 19:44:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27321 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA13001 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:44:42 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!feeder.chicago.cic.net!mbigate.moody.edu!mbi.moody.edu!news From: Jim Hickman Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Command line execution Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:57:46 -0600 Organization: Moody Bible Institute Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3331C0E9.54A3@mail.moody.edu> Reply-To: jhickman@moody.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: jmhpc.moody.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6776 Need a push with some simple stuff. Can't find where/how to make a .tak file run from the command line in C-Kermit on a HP-UX system. Know this has got to be something simple I just have forgotten in the several years since I've worked in a Unix environment. Thanks - Jim Hickman From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 19:47:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27979 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA13107 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:47:46 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Command line execution Date: 21 Mar 1997 00:47:44 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5gslrg$k4f$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3331C0E9.54A3@mail.moody.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6777 In article <3331C0E9.54A3@mail.moody.edu>, Jim Hickman wrote: : Need a push with some simple stuff. Can't find where/how to make a .tak : file run from the command line in C-Kermit on a HP-UX system. Know this : has got to be something simple I just have forgotten in the several : years since I've worked in a Unix environment. : kermit filename - Frank From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 22:25:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18981 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA20814 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:25:33 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsout1.alt.net!news1.alt.net!news.aros.net!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems with Tecra+DOS+kermit Message-ID: <1997Mar20.194638.95771@cc.usu.edu> Date: 20 Mar 97 19:46:37 MDT References: <5gpdtl$718$1@argon.csl.sri.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 85 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6778 In article <5gpdtl$718$1@argon.csl.sri.com>, rushby@news.csl.sri.com (John Rushby) writes: > I have a Toshiba Tecra 740 booted to MSDOS via F8 > (I'm running DOS simply because Linux isn't installed yet). I presume, being laptop-less in Logan (UT), that the Toshiba is a distinguished member of the laptop tribe. > There is an internal modem on COM2, standard address and IRQ, RTS flow control. And we presume that there is a serial port on COM1 so that there is this second serial port of interest to Kermit. That is, COM1 is not an address pair but rather the "first" of two such sought by the Bios at power on time. We go on at length about this in the MSK release notes, in case some readers wonder what I'm talking about. > Kermit 3.14 is unable to use this modem with the speed set higher than 2400! > I get the same problem with an external modem via COM1; > > However, if I disable the internal modem (via tsetup) and use a > Megahertz PCMCIA modem as COM2 (using the point enabler), it works fine. MegaHertz Inc has advertized that they try harder to overcome PCMCIA compatibility issues, and maybe they succeeded on your machine. > I've tried other versions of Kermit on the internal modem with the > following results: > > 3.15: same problem as 3.14 > 3.13: doesn't even load--divide trap (does the same on my P6 desktop) The divide by zero is very likely in the software timing loop calibration procedure executed at port startup, which runs overboard on fast machines. The problem was solved in MSK v3.14. > 2.29: works perfectly! You would have to say that. Hmmm. > The symptom at higher speeds with 3.14 is that ATH generates 0 and > then everything locks up. Dialing works but nothing appears on the > screen. "Show modem" reports everything as expected. I know this > sounds like the "can talk but cannot hear" problem described in > kermit.bwr, but the address and IRQ are ok, there are no conflicts > that I can see, and that wouldn't explain why 2.29 works, nor why 3.14 > works at slow speed and with a PCMCIA modem. I'm real short on ideas, but let me try some anyway. PCMCIA equipment is decidely peculiar and awfully specific to individual laptops. Thus generalizing won't work, and some pairing of equipment performs well and yet pairing of other reputable equipment does not, for mysterious PCMCIA reasons. That's become common knowledge. There are two parts to the higher speed business. One is talking to the command interpreter in the modem to do AT stuff. The other is in data transfer mode moving data bytes both ways. Behavior is sometimes very different. The biggest problem is the command mode part, where there really isn't a decent command interpreter in the modem and instead the data pump silicon is coerced into parsing the AT stuff. When that occurs we must speak v e r y s l o w l y to the modem or it loses track. By slowly I mean less than four bytes per second. MSK has delay code to be sluggish while initialzing a serial port for use, but there is no telling how slow some modems need to be addressed and there is no added sluggishness after the port has been started. I hesitate to bring this up, but you have probably heard of these "Windows modems" which are totally dependent on software in Windows to perform operations above 2400 bps. The makers removed the guts of modern modems, shaved a few bucks off the cost, and gave buyers a two piece unit (hardware and necessary Windows software). If your modem is of this kind there is nothing Kermit can do about the matter. We strongly recommend against using such modems, for obvious reasons. If dialing works but connections don't then we do have a classical "talk but not listen" situation. The cause is there are no interrupts from the serial port reaching Kermit telling it a character has arrived. I gather that this isn't the case. The apparent lockup after typing ATH is almost as if the machine has put the modem hardware to sleep, perhaps not very gracefully. It does say that while Kermit is in Connect mode behaving normally a reversion to modem command mode is iffy and an ATH command leads the modem into never never land (all the while Kermit is doing exactly the same processing steps). Should the machine drastically change the hardware available upon an ATH then Kermit's following attempts to talk to that serial hardware may fail in unknown ways (what was valid hardware becomes a land mine). As you can see, I'm guessing pretty wildly here, searching for possibilities. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 22:26:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19049 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA20829 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:26:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.115.134.241!newsfeed.gte.net!news From: hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Help TCP Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:24:06 GMT Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3331feba.182763434@news.gte.net> References: <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net> <1997Mar11.105816.95469@cc.usu.edu> Reply-To: hoot@d-s-s.com NNTP-Posting-Host: clw231033.gte.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6779 On 11 Mar 97 10:58:16 MDT, jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) wrote: >In article <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: >> How do I get MSkermit for DOS to emulate VT320? Is it built in or do I >> have to obtain a key map file? >------------ > Designed in, built in. Please do have a look at the docs in the >shipping package, and consider acquiring the User's Manual (see the HELP >screen of MS-DOS Kermit). > Joe D. Okay I looked in the book and to my surprise it sure does it. Now next problem. TCP connectivity. The book just confuses me more on how to. I need TCP or is it built in. The book specifies it built in and just need a packet driver for the nic card. What is a packet driver? We are using a 3com card. What should I get then? Thanks, jeff From news@columbia.edu Thu Mar 20 22:49:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22583 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA21868 for kermit.misc@watsun; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:48:59 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!207.115.134.241!newsfeed.gte.net!news From: hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: How do I set up MS DOS kermit 3.14 to use TCP Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:28:41 GMT Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Lines: 6 Message-ID: <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net> Reply-To: hoot@d-s-s.com NNTP-Posting-Host: clw231033.gte.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6780 I'm running a 3com connected to my net. I need to tcp to my host. Do I need some sort of packet driver and if so, what kind? Reading the book and dummies like me can't figure how I setup my workstation to use tcp to connect to my host? thanks, From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 09:20:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02441 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08563 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:20:13 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!news From: Peter Eckhardt Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: K95 problem Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:58:19 +0100 Organization: RGW Express Airfreight GmbH Lines: 16 Message-ID: <333285EB.2F54@rgw-express.de> Reply-To: dbadm@rgw-express.de NNTP-Posting-Host: speew.rgw-express.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6781 I have a strange problem with K95 on Windows 95. We access an AS400 via tn5250. On the client PC is K95 with that we log in to a SCO 3.2.4.2 box via sco ansi terminal emulation. That works very well with all apss we use. Except .... when we use tn5250 to log in to an AS400. On the login screen the input field is correctly highlighted but the terminal is one line too deep. Input is accepted normally only our users are irritated because the input is on the wrong position. All other screens work ok. Only the login to the AS400 .... K95 on NT4.0 with the same dialusr.dat works perfectly well. The above problem shows up only under Win95. Any hints ? Thanks Peter From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 10:04:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10742 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11030 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:04:54 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How do I set up MS DOS kermit 3.14 to use TCP Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:04:51 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 15 Message-ID: <5gu82j$ohf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6782 In article <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net>, Jeff Tomich wrote: : I'm running a 3com connected to my net. I need to tcp to my host. Do I : need some sort of packet driver and if so, what kind? Reading the book : and dummies like me can't figure how I setup my workstation to use tcp : to connect to my host? : Detailed instructions can be found in the file NETWORKS\SETUP.DOC in your MS-DOS Kermit 3.14 directory. Packet drivers can be found at: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/packet-drivers/ Get the READ.ME file, read it, go from there. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 10:05:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10902 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11095 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:05:41 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!news2.interlog.com!n1tor.istar!tor.istar!east.istar!news.cancom.net!monk.cancom.net!not-for-mail From: Douglas Berry Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: C-Kermit script archive? Date: 21 Mar 1997 09:34:27 -0500 Organization: Cancom Business Networks Lines: 7 Sender: doug@monk.cancom.net Message-ID: <5gu69j$7c2@monk.cancom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: monk.cancom.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6783 Is there a collection of C-Kermit scripts available? We have the source distribution, but wondered if there were any other samples we could use. Thanks, doug From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 10:14:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12195 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11387 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:14:57 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: K95 problem Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:14:53 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 50 Message-ID: <5gu8ld$p3v$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <333285EB.2F54@rgw-express.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6784 In article <333285EB.2F54@rgw-express.de>, Peter Eckhardt wrote: : I have a strange problem with K95 on Windows 95. We access an AS400 via : tn5250. On the client PC is K95 with that we log in to a SCO 3.2.4.2 box : via sco ansi terminal emulation. That works very well with all apss we : use. Except .... when we use tn5250 to log in to an AS400. On the login : screen the input field is correctly highlighted but the terminal is one : line too deep. Input is accepted normally only our users are irritated : because the input is on the wrong position. All other screens work : ok. Only the login to the AS400 .... : The first thing to check is whether you really are using SCOANSI emulation. Recent releases of Kermit 95 (the current release being 1.1.11) support true Telnet terminal-type negotiation, which has its good and bad sides. In this case, the bad side wins because (would you believe) SCO operating systems do not support a terminal type called SCOANSI. Well, it's a long story, and you can read about it in your Kermit 95 BUGS.TXT file, item 253. The short answer is: tell K95 to: set terminal type scoansi set telnet terminal-type ansi before making the connection. This means "use SCOANSI emulation, but tell the Telnet host that it's ANSI emulation". Strange but true... Notes: 1. At our suggestion, SCO has agreed to install an "SCOANSI" name in its terminal-type database; this will happen in future SCO releases or patches. 2. In a future release of K95, we'll add a "Telnet terminal-type" field to the Dialer notebook entries. 3. The same thing happens with AT386 terminal type in UnixWare -- now also an SCO product. : K95 on NT4.0 with the same dialusr.dat works perfectly well. The above : problem shows up only under Win95. : If my diagnosis is correct, then I'll bet you are using different releases of K95 on Windows 95 and NT. On the other hand, maybe we are grappling with a screen-dimensions issue here. Remember, Windows 95 has a horrible bug that prevents us from using any screen dimensions we want, but Windows NT does not have that bug. For the gory details, see BUGS.TXT item 2. If none of this helps, please collect a session log that demonstrates the problem and send it in (uuencoded or somesuch) to kermit-support@columbia.edu. -Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 11:14:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23968 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14254 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:14:44 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: C-Kermit script archive? Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:14:41 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5guc5h$slo$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5gu69j$7c2@monk.cancom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6785 In article <5gu69j$7c2@monk.cancom.net>, Douglas Berry wrote: : Is there a collection of C-Kermit scripts available? : : We have the source distribution, but wondered if there were : any other samples we could use. : I always thought this would happen by itself, but it hasn't. First of all, make sure you have C-Kermit 6.0. Then look in the ckermit.ini (.kermrc) file for lots of examples showing automatic login to various kinds of hosts, implementation of the services directory, and various other useful functions. There are also some separate *.ksc (Kermit Script) files, like the one for sending alpha pages. And of course there are lots of examples in the book. If people want to send in working examples of scripts, we'll be glad to collect them and make them available. Remember, the format of script programs has been considerably simplified in C-Kermit 6.0 and MS-DOS Kermit 3.15 -- no more of that silly "comma-dash" business, etc. Now we have C-language-like block structure, scoping of variables, additional structured programming constructs, etc, conducive to writing readable and well-structured script programs. (Of course old-format scripts are still executed by the new Kermit releases, but I'd prefer it if examples showed off the new-&-improved format.) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 15:16:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05998 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25802 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:16:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!worldnet.att.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!usenet From: "Yvonne Costello" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Test Please Ignore Date: 21 Mar 1997 20:12:46 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 4 Message-ID: <01bc3634$3a0c1180$f2937dc2@ns.indigo.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-242.lan.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6786 Test Please Ignore. Thank you From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 16:40:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23243 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29797 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:40:36 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.indigo.ie!usenet From: "iam" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Att :- Eoin Date: 21 Mar 1997 21:32:39 GMT Organization: Indigo Lines: 1 Message-ID: <01bc363f$6294f4e0$f2937dc2@ns.indigo.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-242.lan.indigo.ie X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6787 Sending message on behalf of Eoin, please ignore. From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 17:35:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17777 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02320 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:35:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!jadestar.a2i!jadestar From: Jim Dennis Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Command line execution Date: 21 Mar 1997 21:36:00 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 36 Message-ID: <5guv00$1uv@samba.rahul.net> References: <3331C0E9.54A3@mail.moody.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: waltz.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: jadestar X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6788 Jim Hickman (jhickman@mail.moody.edu) wrote: : Need a push with some simple stuff. Can't find where/how to make a .tak : file run from the command line in C-Kermit on a HP-UX system. Know this : has got to be something simple I just have forgotten in the several : years since I've worked in a Unix environment. One way is to create the script (the .tak file) with an initial line like: #! /usr/local/ckermit (or whatever path is appropriate for your installation). The #! must be the first two characters of the file for this to work -- usually (under most forms of Unix) any leading spaces, comments or blank lines will cause this mechanism to fail). Then you would make this file executable with a command like: chmod +x. This works with most Unix scripting facilities because it identifies the file as a text script -- and the file specification after the #! tells the system where to find the interpreter. Another way is to use a command like: kermit ./myscript.tak or kermit ./myscript.ksc (to follow the conventions of the trade). Personally I prefer to just name my scripts with no extension. : Thanks - Jim Hickman From news@columbia.edu Fri Mar 21 18:58:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26455 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06226 for kermit.misc@watsun; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:58:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sgi.com!bellman.NSD.3Com.COM!news.erg.sri.com!news.sri.com!anemone.csl.sri.com!argon.csl.sri.com!not-for-mail From: rushby@anemone.csl.sri.com (John Rushby) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems with Tecra+DOS+kermit Date: 21 Mar 1997 13:46:19 -0800 Organization: Computer Science Laboratory, SRI International Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5guvjb$9bu$1@argon.csl.sri.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.csl.sri.com Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6789 Recap: Kermit 3.14 is unable to drive the built-in modem of my Tecra 740 above 2400 baud. I've since found that it works ok at 4800, but definitely locks up at anything faster. In article <1997Mar20.194638.95771@cc.usu.edu>, Joe Doupnik provided some helpful suggestions and wrote > > I presume, being laptop-less in Logan (UT), that the Toshiba is >a distinguished member of the laptop tribe. The Tecra 740 is Toshiba's top-of-the-line laptop. It's the size and weight of the San Francisco phone book, and gets hot enough to fry eggs. It's also faster than the Sparc 20 in my office. I think the speed may be a significant factor. Joe's suggestions focussed on the modem, but that doesn't explain why I get the same behavior with an external modem on a regular com port, nor why Kermit 2.29 works fine with the same modem. I've since done some further experiments using a Toshiba Portege 660 (150 MHz Pentium). This produces identical behavior to the 740: Kermit 2.29 works fine, 3.14 locks up above 4800 baud. The 660 has Linux, so I tried C-Kermit and that also worked perfectly. My speculation: these machines are *very* fast; I also remember reading somewhere that the highly integrated chipsets of these laptops run the UART (which is the FIFO variety) at full bus speed. So maybe the lean-and-mean 2.29 and the moderately trim C-kermit can keep up whereas 3.14 cannot. Is this plausible? Can anything be done? John From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 22 10:59:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19250 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19497 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:59:03 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.indigo.ie!usenet From: "Eoin C. Bairéad" Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Att :- Eoin - please ignore Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:56:06 -0800 Organization: Comhairleoir Ríomhaireachta Lines: 1 Message-ID: <33347196.6EBC@indigo.ie> References: <01bc363f$6294f4e0$f2937dc2@ns.indigo.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts14-06.dublin.indigo.ie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; I) To: iam Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6790 replying to [L]iam ?? & group - please ignore From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 22 11:16:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21230 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20448 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:25 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: problems with multiple tcp/ip sessions Message-ID: <1997Mar22.085322.95794@cc.usu.edu> Date: 22 Mar 97 08:53:21 MDT References: <09970220144127.OUI27.bernards@xs4all.nl> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 11 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6791 In article <09970220144127.OUI27.bernards@xs4all.nl>, bernards@xs4all.nl (Bernard Speekenbrink) writes: > Since we are using msdos kermit 3.14 we have problems with multiple > TCP/IP sessions to the same host. When the connection is idle for some > time (about 30/40 minutes) sometimes (not always) one session is kicked > off with "connection refused by host". When we used msdos kermit 3.13 we > had no problems at all. We are connected to a Unixware 2.03 host. -------- It is probably a known problem with TCP keepalives. The problem is solved in MSK 3.15 beta and I suggest using it. Please look in directory kermit2/test/bin for file msk315.zip on kermit.columbia.edu. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 22 11:16:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21237 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20452 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:16:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-xfer.mccc.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: How do I set up MS DOS kermit 3.14 to use TCP Message-ID: <1997Mar22.085046.95793@cc.usu.edu> Date: 22 Mar 97 08:50:46 MDT References: <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 14 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6792 In article <33320001.183089895@news.gte.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: > I'm running a 3com connected to my net. I need to tcp to my host. Do I > need some sort of packet driver and if so, what kind? Reading the book > and dummies like me can't figure how I setup my workstation to use tcp > to connect to my host? ---------- I presume "a 3com" means an Ethernet board made by the company 3Com. Please do read the extensive documentation supplied with MS-DOS Kermit, presuming that you are running DOS and Windows. The docs give examples for both Packet Driver and Novell ODI driver setups. The driver must match your particular board and usually they come from the maker of the board. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sat Mar 22 11:58:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27180 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22398 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:58:04 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Command line execution Date: 22 Mar 1997 16:58:02 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <5h132q$j8h$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3331C0E9.54A3@mail.moody.edu> <5guv00$1uv@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6793 In article <5guv00$1uv@samba.rahul.net>, Jim Dennis wrote: : Jim Hickman (jhickman@mail.moody.edu) wrote: : : Personally I prefer to just name my scripts with no : extension. : It is prettier that way but it seems the trend these days is for extensions of data files to indicate which application they are associated with. Whether this is a good idea is no longer relevant. Of course the unfortunate aspect of this trend is that there is no registration authority for extensions, so software makers just make these associations unilaterally, often causing conflicts with other applications. This makes a big difference in OS's like Windows 95, where clicking on a data file launches the associated application. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 09:26:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14436 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25618 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:26:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc-e!szdc!mdrn From: dallasii@kincyb.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: post-comp.protocols.kermit.misc@newspost.zippo.com Date: 20 Mar 1997 13:57:38 -0800 Organization: None Lines: 23 Sender: dallasii@kincyb.com Message-ID: Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6794 This is a test post. Most people should ignore it. It was made with the eMail to UseNet gateway: post-comp.protocols.kermit.misc@newspost.zippo.com If you want to post this Usenet newsgroup, by eMail, feel free to use this gateway, with proper concern for Net resources. Regards, Dallas E. Legan II (562) 862 - 4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org aw585@lafn.org dallasii@kincyb.com From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 09:26:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14442 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25622 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:26:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc-e!szdc!mdrn From: dallasii@kincyb.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: post-comp.protocols.kermit.misc@newspost.zippo.com Date: 22 Mar 1997 00:16:55 -0800 Organization: None Lines: 25 Message-ID: Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6795 This is a test post. Most people should ignore it. It was made with the eMail to UseNet gateway: post-comp.protocols.kermit.misc@newspost.zippo.com If you want to post to this Usenet newsgroup, by eMail, feel free to use the results of this test, to mail to the indicated gateway, but please show proper concern for Net resources. Regards, Dallas E. Legan II (562) 862 - 4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org aw585@lafn.org dallasii@kincyb.com From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 12:28:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06955 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA05137 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:28:49 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: k95 native windows update? Date: 23 Mar 1997 12:28:37 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 7 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.225.152 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6796 I see no one has asked for a while when the native windows version of k95 will show up, so I figured I'd go ahead and take the plunge this time :-). I dimly recall that March was once mentioned as a possible time frame, and since March has just about run out, I thought I'd ask how its going. So: Hows it going? From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 13:04:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13419 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06995 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:04:29 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: 23 Mar 1997 18:04:26 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 59 Message-ID: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6797 In article , Thomas A. Horsley wrote: : I see no one has asked for a while when the native windows version of k95 : will show up, so I figured I'd go ahead and take the plunge this time :-). : Not to pick nits, but K95 has always been a 100% native 32-bit Windows 95 and NT application. The fact that it runs in a console window does not mean it is not native. If it was not a native application, it would not run in multiple threads, use 32-bit Winsock, understand long filenames, access the system through 32-bit APIs and drivers, etc. So to be precise, we are talking about the conversion of an already fully native console program to a full-GUI (graphical user interface) application of the sort that most Windows users expect to see. : I dimly recall that March was once mentioned as a possible time frame, : and since March has just about run out, I thought I'd ask how its going. : : So: Hows it going? : It's a long, slow, laborious process but there is progress. You can see some preview screen shots at: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kuishots.html For the past few weeks we've been concentrating on TAPI (Microsoft's telephony interface, which allows multiple applications to share the same modem) and we seem to have it working. For the benefit of those who wonder why this is taking so long... Unlike other software makers, we produce applications for many platforms, not just for Windows. Therefore we try to write portable code and share it among many versions. It's no secret that Kermit 95's command/scripting language and its file-transfer module are built from the same code base as C-Kermit (for UNIX, VMS, etc). And even the terminal emulation / networking / file and communications i/o that you see in Windows 95 and NT are also now shared with the OS/2 version of Kermit 95. This was no simple feat, given the lengths to which the Windows development model is designed to discourage, if not defeat, portability. We are not going to sacrifice our coverage of all those so-called "legacy" platforms in order to rush the full-GUI version of Kermit 95 to market. We'd all suffer in the long run if we did that. Remember, one of the greatest strengths of Kermit software is that it is available for so many platforms -- all of our Kermit programs are fully interoperable, and the command and scripting languages are compatible across hundreds of different platforms. Unlike practically any other maker of communications software, we take care of both ends of the connection, not just the PC end. To answer your question -- it doesn't look as if it will be ready in March, or even April. Given the incredible number of roadblocks we run into at every turn, we have given up on setting tentative release dates. But yes, we are working on it full time, and the end is in sight. (And no, we do not plan to also discontinue the console version when the GUI version comes out -- believe it or not, many people have urged us to always keep a current console version available, because they prefer it.) - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 14:25:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25463 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10880 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:25:45 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!news.uoregon.edu!tezcat!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: Tom.Horsley@worldnet.att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: 23 Mar 1997 14:24:22 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 23 Sender: tom@SPIKE.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.146.225.246 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6798 >So to be precise, we are talking about the conversion of an already fully >native console program to a full-GUI (graphical user interface) application >of the sort that most Windows users expect to see. Sure, I just meant "native" windows as opposed to "console" window, I probably should have tried to find a more precise term. >This was no simple feat, given the lengths to which the Windows development >model is designed to discourage, if not defeat, portability. Having tried to port a few things to win32 myself, I can definitely relate to this :-). >We are not going to sacrifice our coverage of all those so-called "legacy" >platforms in order to rush the full-GUI version of Kermit 95 to market. Actually, this code sharing discussion brings up an interesting point. Will the full GUI interface be portable to X11 so all those wonderful terminal emulations will be available for X as well as win32? >we have given up on setting tentative release dates Ah! The sign of an advanced win32 programmer :-). From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 14:52:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00858 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA12075 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:52:07 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help TCP Message-ID: <1997Mar23.120952.95808@cc.usu.edu> Date: 23 Mar 97 12:09:52 MDT References: <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net> <3331feba.182763434@news.gte.net> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 25 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6799 In article <3331feba.182763434@news.gte.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: > On 11 Mar 97 10:58:16 MDT, jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) wrote: > >>In article <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net>, hoot@d-s-s.com (Jeff Tomich) writes: >>> How do I get MSkermit for DOS to emulate VT320? Is it built in or do I >>> have to obtain a key map file? >>------------ >> Designed in, built in. Please do have a look at the docs in the >>shipping package, and consider acquiring the User's Manual (see the HELP >>screen of MS-DOS Kermit). >> Joe D. > > > Okay I looked in the book and to my surprise it sure does it. Now next > problem. TCP connectivity. The book just confuses me more on how to. I > need TCP or is it built in. The book specifies it built in and just > need a packet driver for the nic card. What is a packet driver? We are > using a 3com card. What should I get then? ---------- Jeff: Charge! Go to the Ethernet board vendor's site and plunder. Read the instructions with the Packet Driver, go for it. Talk to your local TCP/IP responsible people about obtaining an IP address, and they can probably help you with setting up machine details. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 15:20:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04809 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13451 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:20:39 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: 23 Mar 1997 20:20:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5h43al$lco$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6800 In article , Thomas A. Horsley wrote: : : >We are not going to sacrifice our coverage of all those so-called "legacy" : >platforms in order to rush the full-GUI version of Kermit 95 to market. : : Actually, this code sharing discussion brings up an interesting point. : Will the full GUI interface be portable to X11 so all those wonderful : terminal emulations will be available for X as well as win32? : The design does not preclude this. It's just a question of programmer time. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Sun Mar 23 18:00:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29756 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 18:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA21024 for kermit.misc@watsun; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:59:58 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!psinntp!uunet!in2.uu.net!uucp6.uu.net!world!wpns From: wpns@world.std.com (William Smith) Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 22:33:44 GMT Lines: 22 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6801 Frank da Cruz wrote: >the lengths to which the Windows development model is designed to >discourage, if not defeat, portability. Speaking of which, the OSR2 release of Lose95 8*) doesn't think the modem is active when Kermit is the only thing using a PPP connection to my ISP. >(And no, we do not plan to also discontinue the console version when the >GUI version comes out -- believe it or not, many people have urged us to >always keep a current console version available, because they prefer it.) Absolutely keep the console! I hardly use anything but a full-size window, as it's noticably faster for doing shell stuff. I suppose I ought to add one of those "you can have my CLI and Eunuchs shell when you pry my cold dead fingers off the keyboard" homilies in here. 8*) _Way_ keep up the good work!!! -- Willie Smith wpns@world.std.com N1JBJ@amsat.org #define NII Information SuperCollider From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 12:58:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29881 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28798 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:58:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.mindlink.net!van-bc!uniserve!newsfeeds.sol.net!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!highway.leidenuniv.nl!usenet From: Mark Barto Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Start telnet connection using K95 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:17:32 +0100 Organization: AZL Lines: 14 Message-ID: <333670DC.F39@cdiv.azl.nl> Reply-To: MBarto@cdiv.azl.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: 800azl86.azl.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6802 I'm starting a telnet session, using the command line, like: k95.exe -J hostname. Depending on the hostname I want to set some extra funtions in the script. (session colors etc.) I tried to read the \v(line) from K95custom.ini but this returns the value 0. Once the telnet session is started this variable shows the right session name that I can use in my scripts. This is to late for my telnet session because the script is alreade finished at this time. How can I work arround this problem?? Thanks in advance, Mark From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 12:58:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29882 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28800 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:58:27 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.mindlink.net!nntp.portal.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!highway.leidenuniv.nl!usenet From: Mark Barto Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: test Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:45:17 +0100 Organization: AZL Lines: 1 Message-ID: <3336775D.16E8@cdiv.azl.nl> Reply-To: MBarto@cdiv.azl.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: 800azl86.azl.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6803 From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 14:21:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16044 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA02696 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:21:28 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Start telnet connection using K95 Date: 24 Mar 1997 19:21:23 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <5h6k7j$pmd$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <333670DC.F39@cdiv.azl.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6804 In article <333670DC.F39@cdiv.azl.nl>, Mark Barto wrote: : I'm starting a telnet session, using the command line, like: : k95.exe -J hostname. Depending on the hostname I want to set some extra : funtions in the script. (session colors etc.) : I tried to read the \v(line) from K95custom.ini but this returns the : value 0. Once the telnet session is started this variable shows the : right session name that I can use in my scripts. This is to late for my : telnet session because the script is alreade finished at this time. : How can I work arround this problem?? : It's a question of knowing the order in which Kermit 95 executes commands from the various sources: command line, init file, "application file", etc. The initialization file (including K95CUSTOM.INI) is executed before the command line options, as you discovered. So: kermit -J hostname -C "take commandfile" where hostname is the host you want to connect to, and commandfile is the name of a Kermit command file. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 14:54:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22956 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA04310 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:54:22 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Problems with Tecra+DOS+kermit Message-ID: <1997Mar24.082701.95829@cc.usu.edu> Date: 24 Mar 97 08:27:01 MDT References: <5guvjb$9bu$1@argon.csl.sri.com> Organization: Utah State University Lines: 45 Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6805 In article <5guvjb$9bu$1@argon.csl.sri.com>, rushby@news.csl.sri.com (John Rushby) writes: > Recap: Kermit 3.14 is unable to drive the built-in modem of my Tecra > 740 above 2400 baud. I've since found that it works ok at 4800, but > definitely locks up at anything faster. > > In article <1997Mar20.194638.95771@cc.usu.edu>, > Joe Doupnik provided some helpful suggestions and wrote >> >> I presume, being laptop-less in Logan (UT), that the Toshiba is >>a distinguished member of the laptop tribe. > > The Tecra 740 is Toshiba's top-of-the-line laptop. It's the size and > weight of the San Francisco phone book, and gets hot enough to fry > eggs. It's also faster than the Sparc 20 in my office. I think the > speed may be a significant factor. > > Joe's suggestions focussed on the modem, but that doesn't explain why > I get the same behavior with an external modem on a regular com port, > nor why Kermit 2.29 works fine with the same modem. > > I've since done some further experiments using a Toshiba Portege 660 > (150 MHz Pentium). This produces identical behavior to the 740: > Kermit 2.29 works fine, 3.14 locks up above 4800 baud. > > The 660 has Linux, so I tried C-Kermit and that also worked perfectly. > > My speculation: these machines are *very* fast; I also remember > reading somewhere that the highly integrated chipsets of these laptops > run the UART (which is the FIFO variety) at full bus speed. So maybe > the lean-and-mean 2.29 and the moderately trim C-kermit can keep up > whereas 3.14 cannot. > > Is this plausible? Can anything be done? > > John ----------- I don't know why this message was reposted to NEWS when the matter was discussed and solved in direct communications some days ago. For those interested, the serial port in the above fancy Toshiba machines is broken. It cannot perform in FIFO mode. Bad news, owners. This has nothing to do with cpu speed and all that jazz, and MSK 3.15 is loafing at serial port speeds. MSK 3.15 beta 19 will have an additional phrase to the SET COM1 command to turn off use of FIFO, and John already verified that the solution works fine on those broken machines. Joe D. From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 18:37:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08568 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15180 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:37:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!worldnet.att.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!torn!nnews.gov.on.ca!not-for-mail From: Steve Riviere Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: VAX WordPerfect Mail Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:02:18 -0800 Organization: Government of Ontario Lines: 14 Message-ID: <33371609.4067@sdg.edu.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.40.199.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6806 I'm using Kermit as emulation software to communicate with a VAX 4300 mainframe. When I try to use WordPerfect Office Mail 3.1 on the VAX, I get a steady beeping sound while the WP copyright screen appears. Once I'm accessing my in & out boxes, the beeping stops. I can turn the beeping off in MSCUSTOM.INI, but that stops all beeps from any program and I would still like the beep from other programs that I use on the VAX. Has anyone else come across this problem? Steve Riviere Information Services S.D. & G. Public School Board From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 18:46:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09944 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15577 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:46:06 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: VAX WordPerfect Mail Date: 24 Mar 1997 23:46:03 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <5h73nr$ddu$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <33371609.4067@sdg.edu.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6807 In article <33371609.4067@sdg.edu.on.ca>, Steve Riviere wrote: : I'm using Kermit... : Which version? : ... as emulation software to communicate with a VAX 4300 : mainframe. When I try to use WordPerfect Office Mail 3.1 on the VAX, I : get a steady beeping sound while the WP copyright screen appears. Once : I'm accessing my in & out boxes, the beeping stops. : : I can turn the beeping off in MSCUSTOM.INI, but that stops all beeps : from any program and I would still like the beep from other programs : that I use on the VAX. : Either Kermit is receiving beep characters from the VAX, or else the beeps indicate data loss, as happens when there is a UART overrun, which in turn tends to happen when there is a lack of adequate flow control. What kind of connection do you have between the PC and the VAX? If it's a serial connection, what is the speed, and what type of flow control are you using? If you are using a modem, are you sure it's set up for the same type of flow control? etc etc... - Frank From news@columbia.edu Mon Mar 24 20:27:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26788 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA20430 for kermit.misc@watsun; Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:26:58 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!mr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!myriad!mail From: dallasii@kincyb.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: comp.protocols.kermit.misc@myriad.alias.net Date: 24 Mar 1997 20:14:34 -0500 Organization: Mail to Usenet Gateway Lines: 23 Message-ID: To: comp.protocols.kermit.misc@myriad.alias.net Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6808 This is a test post. Most people should ignore it. It was made with the eMail to UseNet gateway: comp.protocols.kermit.misc@myriad.alias.net If you want to post this Usenet newsgroup, by eMail, feel free to use this gateway, with proper concern for Net resources. Regards, Dallas E. Legan II (562) 862 - 4854 ext. '*' legan@acm.org aw585@lafn.org dallasii@kincyb.com From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 25 02:50:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29987 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA04939 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 02:50:18 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!gondor!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newshub.csu.net!csulb.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!207.179.0.3!inquo!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!dold.a2i!dold From: dold@HelpXTCP.usenet.us.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: Help TCP Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:07:33 GMT Organization: a2i network Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5h68s5$clt@samba.rahul.net> References: <332350dd.34855536@news.intnet.net> <1997Mar11.105816.95469@cc.usu.edu> <3331feba.182763434@news.gte.net> Reply-To: dold@network.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Host: foxtrot.rahul.net NNTP-Posting-User: dold X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Comment: Encoded From: line allows replies that preserve original subject Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6809 Jeff Tomich (hoot@d-s-s.com) wrote: : Okay I looked in the book and to my surprise it sure does it. Now next : problem. TCP connectivity. The book just confuses me more on how to. I : need TCP or is it built in. The book specifies it built in and just : need a packet driver for the nic card. What is a packet driver? We are : using a 3com card. What should I get then? If you are using Netware IPXODI on this card already, you are almost done, just a couple of lines to add to the net.cfg If you have no drivers at all for this card, you need to retrieve the crnwyr drivers, or some other TCP package for DOS, but I used crnwyr. http://www.crynwr.com/crynwr/ Either way, not much trouble at all, with some configuration help from the users here. From scratch, with just the docs, there are _so_ many possibilities, you are probably better off posting your environment here in some detail, and asking for more help. -- --- Clarence A Dold - dold@network.rahul.net - Pope Valley & Napa CA. From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 25 08:49:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05070 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15717 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:49:53 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.230.225.2!news.BSDI.COM!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.uidaho.edu!stn001.ee.uidaho.edu!hunt5249 From: hunt5249@uidaho.edu (Aaron Huntsinger) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: CRC Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 21:51:40 GMT Organization: University of Idaho Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.101.55.221 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: CRC X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6810 I am trying to write a kermit program for a motorola microcontroller. I cannot seem to agree with the BCC that Procomm is sending with its packets. Packet: 01 30 20 53 7a 2c 20 40 2d 23 59 31 7e 2a 20 20 7a 48 0d procomm says that the BCC here is 48. I have code written by two different people, one from a professor of mine and the other from the book "Serial Protocols" by Tim Kientzle, to generate the CCITT CRC16 and both pieces of code generate the BCC of 61bb. I've done this with a nak packet Packet: 01 23 20 4e 33 0d again procomm says the BCC is 33. my two pieces of code both agree on the value 6416. 1)what am i missing? Aaron Huntsinger From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 25 14:23:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13377 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA02310 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:23:26 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!news.wfu.edu!not-for-mail From: matthews@wfu.edu (Rick Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:28:08 GMT Organization: Wake Forest University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <5h8ndo$ld0@f1n1.spenet.wfu.edu> References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: darth.phy.wfu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6811 Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : So to be precise, we are talking about the conversion of an already fully : native console program to a full-GUI (graphical user interface) application : of the sort that most Windows users expect to see. : Will the GUI version support Tektronix emulation? -- Rick Matthews matthews@wfu.edu Department of Physics http://www.wfu.edu/%7Ematthews Wake Forest University 910-759-5340 (Voice) Winston-Salem, NC 27109-7507 910-759-6142 (FAX) USA From news@columbia.edu Tue Mar 25 14:40:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17766 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03229 for kermit.misc@watsun; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:40:21 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Re: k95 native windows update? Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:40:19 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <5h99n3$jem$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <5h3rba$dla$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <5h8ndo$ld0@f1n1.spenet.wfu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6812 In article <5h8ndo$ld0@f1n1.spenet.wfu.edu>, Rick Matthews wrote: : Frank da Cruz (fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : : So to be precise, we are talking about the conversion of an already fully : : native console program to a full-GUI (graphical user interface) application : : of the sort that most Windows users expect to see. : : Will the GUI version support Tektronix emulation? : Not the first GUI release. Our highest priority is to release what we have now (plus TAPI) in GUI form. After that we'll start adding features. - Frank From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 26 02:55:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15099 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA10674 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:55:34 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!panix!news.eecs.umich.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!news.sgi.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!spring.edu.tw!feeder.seed.net.tw!reader.seed.net.tw!news From: Chien Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc Subject: Flow Control problem (AIX<->RTE-A) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:40:57 -0800 Organization: FPG Lines: 68 Message-ID: <3339B409.44A8@tpts1.seed.net.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: a0154.ficnet.net.tw Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------78626914755" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6813 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------78626914755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did anyone ever use Kermit to connect a HP1000 and a RS/6000 machine? I use Kermit to connect a IBM RS/6000 (AIX) and a HP1000 (RTE-A) machine via directly connected null modem cable. I experienced some trouble in terminal emulation (seemed the flow control problem). I collect some re- lated info like below. Can anyone help me? Thanks! --------------78626914755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="970325.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="970325.TXT" [/home/temp] C-Kermit>sh prot Protocol: Kermit Protocol Parameters: Send Receive Timeout (used= 8): 8 15 Server Timeout: 0 Padding: 0 0 Block Check: 3 Pad Character: 0 0 Delay: 1 Packet Start: 1 1 Max Retries: 20 Packet End: 13 13 Packet Length: 90 90 Maximum Length: 9024 9024 Window Size: 1 set, 0 used Buffer Size: 9065 9065 Locking-Shift: enabled, not used Packet timeouts: dynamic 1:0 Auto-upload command (binary): kermit -ir Auto-upload command (text): kermit -r Transfer character-set: transparent Transfer mode: automatic Transfer slow-start: on Attributes: on Cancellation: on 3 3 Send / Receive Pause: 0 (msec) [/home/temp] C-Kermit>sh commu Communications Parameters: Line: /dev/tty3, speed: 9600, mode: local, modem: none Terminal bits: 7, parity: none, duplex: full, flow: auto, handshake: none Carrier: auto, lockfile: /etc/locks/LCK..tty3 Escape character: 28 (^\) Carrier Detect (CD): On Dataset Ready (DSR): On Clear To Send (CTS): On Ring Indicator (RI): Off Data Terminal Ready (DTR): On Request To Send (RTS): On Type SHOW DIAL to see DIAL-related items [/home/temp] C-Kermit>c Connecting to /dev/tty3, speed 9600. The escape character is Ctrl-\ (ASCII 28, FS) Type the escape character followed by C to get back, or followed by ? to see other options. xxx3``L~ (Back at fpg40a) --------------78626914755-- From news@columbia.edu Wed Mar 26 10:53:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: from newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.30]) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29847 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from news@localhost) by newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23123 for kermit.misc@watsun; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:53:02 -0500 (EST) Path: news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!fdc From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc Subject: Re: Flow Control problem (AIX<->RTE-A) Date: 26 Mar 1997 15:52:54 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <5hbgom$hqf$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3339B409.44A8@tpts1.seed.net.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu Xref: news.columbia.edu comp.protocols.kermit.misc:6814 comp.sys.hp.misc:13353 In article <3339B409.44A8@tpts1.seed.net.tw>, Chien wrote: : : Did anyone ever use Kermit to connect a HP1000 and a RS/6000 machine? : I use Kermit to connect a IBM RS/6000 (AIX) and a HP1000 (RTE-A) machine : via directly connected null modem cable. I experienced some trouble in : terminal emulation (seemed the flow control problem). I collect some re- : lated info like below. Can anyone help me? Thanks! : ... : [/home/temp] C-Kermit>CONNECT : Connecting to /dev/tty3, speed 9600. : The escape character is Ctrl-\ (ASCII 28, FS) : Type the escape character followed by C to get back, : or followed by ? to see other options. : xxx3``L~ : (Back at fpg40a) : I don't think the total garbage you see after CONNECT results from a lack or proper flow control -- it looks more like a serial-speed and/or parity mismatch. In UNIX, flow control must be done by the device driver. The AIX serial-port device driver does not support ETX/ACK, so there is no way to have this form of flow control between AIX C-Kermit and RTE-A. Maybe there is some way you can make the HP1000 use Xon/Xoff? Otherwise you'll need to disable flow control on both ends: tell C-Kermit to SET FLOW NONE and use whatever method is available on RTE-A to turn off flow control in the HP-1000. In this case you'll need to keep the speed low enough to prevent buffer overruns. HP-1000 Kermit should take care of file-transfer flow control. - Frank